Amd phenom 2 and msi 7950 vs i5 3570k and 650 ti

[locke9342]

im making a build for one of my friends. I need help deciding between the 2 builds ive made or if u have any suggestions of your own please feel free to share. He wants a futuristic looking case with leds and a nividia gpu for the sheild and a 800 budget but that might change

intel build http://pcpartpicker.com/p/I2RH

vs

amd build http://pcpartpicker.com/p/I30e

 

[properbuilds]

Hi, this is more ballanced with i5 plus 660 ti

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3350P 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z75 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($76.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($49.30 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB Video Card ($276.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Zalman Z5 Plus ATX Mid Tower Case ($48.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill Green 530W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($47.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $744.90
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

 

[TheBigTroll]

get this instead
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/I38U

ram
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=74758&promoid=1321

hard drive
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=74462&promoid=1276

psu
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=59615&promoid=1257

he isnt getting a futureistic looking case at this budget. the for the price difference between the z11 and the 200R, i can pick up a new game or a slightly higher end video card. the z5 plus isnt that good either with very little cabling room. LEDs will also cost him for nothing gained

 

[e_X]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ASRock H77 Pro4/MVP ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($87.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($41.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.47 @ Compuvest)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($339.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $788.97
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-06 22:15 EST-0500)

 

[properbuilds]

get this instead
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/I38U

You downgraded the cpu(less clock speed and h77 motherboard) and gpu

http://techreport.com/review/23981/radeon-hd-7950-vs-geforce-gtx-660-ti-revisited/11
http://us.hardware.info/reviews/4002/7/amd-radeon-hd-7950-boost-vs-nvidia-geforce-gtx-660-ti-frametimes-review-conclusion

The z5 plus is a decent case, if he wants a flashy case, let him have it

 

[TheBigTroll]

the odds of 200mhz ever effecting your gameplay is never. good luck with that. and you are complaining about this when your 3350p is 100mhz faster. seems legit

why the heck would he need z77 if he wont be overclocking? there is no difference between the 2 chipsets besides that fact

as for the video card, it depends what games you play. if you are going to play borderlands 2 or crysis 3 mainly, go ahead with the 660ti. otherwise a 7950 performs about the same as 670

 

[locke9342]

i probably will overclock for him

 

[TheBigTroll]

its not worth it at your price bracket. 100 dollars extra for around 10% more CPU performance (which means almost nothing in gaming) isnt worth it. if you want to spend extra for him, a SSD is a much better investment

 

[djangoringo]

I just made a similar 800$ build today, here's what i recommend :

See this : http://pcpartpicker.com/p/I971
Total: $316.96
The price of the ram will increase soon.
Get the rest in ncix us(it's a trusted website, you'll get free shipping with 100$ or more in the cart), since it's cheaper :

Case : http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=76376&promoid=1276
HDD : http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=74462&promoid=1276
PSU : http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=59615&promoid=1257
GPU : http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=75685&promoid=1276

 

[locke9342]

well my main question here is less cpu preformance with amd but more gpu or more cpu for less gpu

 

[djangoringo]

Get the i5-3350p and a better gpu, like the 660 ti, see the build above, within 800$ even before rebates, it has everything you need, a good case, psu, cpu and the nvidia gpu.
You can raise the i5-3350p up to 3.7 ghz : http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/pc-gaming-overclock-build-a-pc,3443-7.html

By the way, if you prefer amd cards, switch for the 7950 : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202006
Same price as the 660 ti.

 

[TheBigTroll]

well my main question here is less cpu preformance with amd but more gpu or more cpu for less gpu

games benefit more from a powerful GPU rather than a CPU to a certain degree. therefore a i5 3330 with a 7950 or a 660ti is a way better choice than a i5 3570k with a 650ti

 

[locke9342]

so i made this build is it good ? http://pcpartpicker.com/p/IdYr

 

[djangoringo]

Get the sniper ram, it has a combo discount : http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1225536&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=
Plus the promo code.
Get the xfx psu, the corsair 200R case, hdd and the 660 ti Asus in ncix us, it goes cheaper there, it's a trusted website, don't worry.

Stick with this : See this : http://pcpartpicker.com/p/I971
Total: $316.96
The price of the ram will increase soon.
Get the rest in ncix us(it's a trusted website, you'll get free shipping with 100$ or more in the cart), since it's cheaper :

Case : http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=76376&promoid=1276
HDD : http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=74462&promoid=1276
PSU : http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=59615&promoid=1257
GPU : http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=75685&promoid=1276

 

[locke9342]

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Ie4E so heres the build with the ram but i think im gonna sitck with the corsair psu its modular witch is really helpfull and he did ask if i could add blue leds to the case

 

[djangoringo]

The corsair CX is made by channel well, the xfx is made by seasonic, the xfx has more quality, the CX is the entry level series of the corsair psus, it's a decent psu but the xfx is cheaper, the 660 ti is also cheaper in ncix us.
The corsair 200r is also cheaper, the hdd in newegg is sold out.

 

[locke9342]

since i will be overclocking i think the xfx would be better do you think 550 wats is enough

 

[djangoringo]

Yes, it's plenty for your system, don't forget to look for some of the parts in ncix us.

 

[locke9342]

i dont like ncix i tried ordering there once and it turned out i need to pay an extra fee because i lived in the us and yes it was on the us site

 

[djangoringo]

But if you order more than 100$ in parts you get free shipping, it it's what it says, just like outlet pc system.

 

[locke9342]

no i got a fine for out of country order or something like that

 

[djangoringo]

Then you order it from the canada website, the us site has a warehouse in the us(California).

 

[locke9342]

i know but i still got the fee ill try again later

 

[TheBigTroll]

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Ie4E so heres the build with the ram but i think im gonna sitck with the corsair psu its modular witch is really helpfull and he did ask if i could add blue leds to the case

-no reason for z77. you cant overclock anyways
-id rather get a kit of viper 3s for 38.50 at us.ncix
-corsair 200R is a much better case
-the cx series are pretty bad. id suggest the xfx even though its not modular. at least its higher quality

 

[djangoringo]

The viper is out of stock and at 65$.
I didn't notice it was the z77 pro 3, op get the z75 pro 3, it's cheaper, it's just 77$, it has 4 dimm slots, all the features that you need and you can also overclock the ram or cpu(raise it more 400 mhz).
If you order more than 100$, you'll get free shipping, just order it from us site.