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Low end gaming on tight budget on Intel Celeron G1610

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March 7, 2013 5:33:11 PM

Hello people, i am about to buy this "gaming" PC for a friend who is on a very very tight budget of about 215-220 euros

He doesnt need USB3 so i went H61 board. He will not be upgrading any time soon, nor he wants to play newer games.

Can it get any cheaper/better than this

Intel Celeron G1610
MSI H61M-P20(G3)
2x2GB DDR 1333 Patriot
Sapphire 6570 1GB DDR3
7200 500GB WD Caviar Blue WD5000AAKX

The "420W" PSU and Case come together real cheap from LC Power
http://www.lc-power.de/index.php?id=273&L=1

It was very frustrating working with this low about of money :( 

Any suggestions?
March 7, 2013 5:56:36 PM

"Celeron"

realy?
March 7, 2013 6:13:12 PM

well a athlon II x2 270 or something is a nice start thought if he won't be ugrading since the next upgrade if you get a 1155 system there might be new stuff out there after 5 or so years, and he might not have any cash to upgrade it in the next year or 2 so for a start maybe an athlon is just as good.
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March 7, 2013 6:15:15 PM

if you want to game for cheap, get Pentium G2120, stay away from the celeron. also might want to get a video card that can actually run games. i know you want it for cheap, but you also want something at least capable of running a game.
March 7, 2013 10:54:17 PM

Cant stress enough how tight the budget is in this case :/ 

He will be playing older games, mostly CS 1.6, HoN, Pes 2013, nowhere near full HD

Is this processor better for gaming than C2D E8200 ?

Im asking cause i can use that as a reference for the needs of this new build. Also a friend has XFX 5570 1GB dd2 (yes, ddr two) and runs CS 1.6 @ 100 FPS, HoN at high PES at high and he's playing on 1080p, so i think this Sapphire 6570 1gb ddr3 will be just fine for the needs. My only worry was processor.
March 10, 2013 2:46:41 PM

the g2120 has a benchmark score of 2905.

the g1610 has a benchmark score of 2657.

the e8200 has a benchmark score of 1856.

there is absolutely nothing wrong with the celeron g1610. it's a great value cpu. it's only a 55 watt cpu. for gaming, the celeron g1610 is perfectly fine, especially for older games. the video card is the most important thing for gaming.
March 10, 2013 3:10:35 PM

additional, the minimum cpu suggested to play crysis 3 is an intel e6600 or an amd athlon 260, which score around the 1900 area.

so, the intel celeron g1610 beats the minimum cpu for one of the newest games out there currently.
March 10, 2013 3:15:24 PM

yilove4u said:
additional, the minimum cpu suggested to play crysis 3 is an intel e6600 or an amd athlon 260, which score around the 1900 area.

so, the intel celeron g1610 beats the minimum cpu for one of the newest games out there currently.


Where can you buy hardware? Give us a link of the store
March 26, 2013 8:29:28 AM

daswilhelm said:
if you want to game for cheap, get Pentium G2120, stay away from the celeron. also might want to get a video card that can actually run games. i know you want it for cheap, but you also want something at least capable of running a game.


I've got this CPU running on my HTPC with a much worse GPU (8400GS) and I occasionally use it for gaming. My setup runs older Steam games (currently re-playing Half Life 2) on my HDTV perfectly. It will also run newer games (also playing Borderlands 2) on low/med settings. I think the G1610 and 6570 would work just fine for the OP's needs and budget.
My HTPC:
Intel Celeron G1610
Foxconn H61S Mini ITX Motherboard
2x4GB DDR3 Crucial Ballistix 1333
EVGA Geforce 8400GS 1GB
OCZ Vertex3 90GB SSD
WD AV-GP 500GB HDD
Corsair CX430M PSU
March 26, 2013 9:13:41 AM

I don't know why no one said it here before AMD A10-5800k is one of the best budget gaming options. you basicaly get gpu for free here
April 1, 2013 1:06:28 AM

The build is fine except for the PSU. Better use an older case and buy a better PSU or if you still have a good and working PSU just use it.
May 5, 2013 6:48:46 PM

for intel i'd like to get G1610 + HD 6570 with H61 motherboard would work as expected even for modern games.
for AMD A10-5800k with standart motherboard is the best for gaming uder tight budget
but seems 220 euros for both build could only afford main PC and pheriperals w/o monitors XD
May 7, 2013 3:00:53 AM

The G1610 is not that bad at all (I own the cpu).
Imo, it's just an underclocked i3 without hyperthreading.

I'm playing GTA IV @ 800x600 lowest settings at 40+ fps just with the CPU itself and with the integrated HD2500 gpu.

NOTE: This CPU outperforms most of Sandy Bridge's Pentium CPUs.
a b 4 Gaming
May 7, 2013 3:40:31 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD A8-3850 2.9GHz Quad-Core Processor (€73.11 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-A55M-DS2 Micro ATX FM1 Motherboard (€45.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: G.Skill NS Series 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (€28.81 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Western Digital Scorpio Black 320GB 2.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€22.89 @ Pixmania DE)
Case: BitFenix Shinobi ATX Mid Tower Case (€11.90 @ Caseking)
Power Supply: Silverstone Strider Essential 400W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply (€41.47 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer (€15.40 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €238.58
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-05-07 12:40 CEST+0200)
May 7, 2013 4:07:02 AM

RAM GSkill Ripjaws:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Skill-Ripjaws-F3-10666CL9S-4GBR...

PSU 80+ Bronze Modular by Powercool:
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/450w-powercool-psupc450a...

MOTHERBOARD GA H61-M S2PV: http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Open+Box+Comp...
S2PV+Intel+H61+%28Socket+1155%29+Micro-ATX+Motherboard+-+B+Grade+?productId=55174

CPU Intel Celeron G1610:
http://www.okobe.co.uk/ws/product/Intel-CPUCore-G1610-2...

HDD Hitachi Ultrastar 500gb 7200rpm:
http://www.overclock.co.uk/product/Hitachi-Ultrastar-A7...

= 148.63 EU (Included VAT)

GPU HD7750: http://www.eclipsecomputers.com/product.aspx?code=GC-XR...

= 210.11 EU (Included VAT)

This plays BF3
May 7, 2013 7:40:47 PM

if u can get a hd 7750 then it will be fine otherwise u should consider a A10-5800k it is a very good budget option
May 8, 2013 12:38:58 AM

l89 said:
if u can get a hd 7750 then it will be fine otherwise u should consider a A10-5800k it is a very good budget option


May 16, 2013 1:33:59 AM

Why celeron? Its so fucked up especially for playing computer games. Get some triple core athlon x3 450...455 etc. Maybe its slightly more expensive but its speed is well deserved the money it costs.And its overclockable.Firstly due to money savings concerns its wise to get 2 gb of ram (since it will respond the most of the game system requirements) Get the cheapest hdd thinking of upgrading it soon with ssd even for instaling OS only.The speed is blazing indeed.And go get some nvidia vga.Maybe some overclocked verson of 630/640 will do the job.About mobo i really cant say much except that if you get amd based one for this price segment you shall enjoy a lot of more options and conectors.And it will be more flexible for further upgrades.
May 18, 2013 4:55:31 AM

l89 said:
if u can get a hd 7750 then it will be fine otherwise u should consider a A10-5800k it is a very good budget option


Bogi said:
Why celeron? Its so fucked up especially for playing computer games. Get some triple core athlon x3 450...455 etc. Maybe its slightly more expensive but its speed is well deserved the money it costs.And its overclockable.Firstly due to money savings concerns its wise to get 2 gb of ram (since it will respond the most of the game system requirements) Get the cheapest hdd thinking of upgrading it soon with ssd even for instaling OS only.The speed is blazing indeed.And go get some nvidia vga.Maybe some overclocked verson of 630/640 will do the job.About mobo i really cant say much except that if you get amd based one for this price segment you shall enjoy a lot of more options and conectors.And it will be more flexible for further upgrades.


The Celeron G1610 is actually a 70% i3 (underclocked and no hyperthreading).

Also, the G1610 significantly better than the Athlon x3 450/455.
June 5, 2013 3:35:18 PM

Bogi said:
Why celeron? Its so fucked up especially for playing computer games. Get some triple core athlon x3 450...455 etc. Maybe its slightly more expensive but its speed is well deserved the money it costs.And its overclockable.Firstly due to money savings concerns its wise to get 2 gb of ram (since it will respond the most of the game system requirements) Get the cheapest hdd thinking of upgrading it soon with ssd even for instaling OS only.The speed is blazing indeed.And go get some nvidia vga.Maybe some overclocked verson of 630/640 will do the job.About mobo i really cant say much except that if you get amd based one for this price segment you shall enjoy a lot of more options and conectors.And it will be more flexible for further upgrades.


You should really test things or at least go read about, and THEN advise people.

Celeron 1610 y FASTER than Athlon X3 450/455
AMD Cards are better in that segment, specially 6570, 6670

I sell hardware, tested lots of setups with that CPUs / VGAs
SSD? you actually read his post? budget...sounds familliar for you?

Go for the Celeron and AMD card 6670 its a little better but 6570 will do the job.
Bye!
June 17, 2013 12:43:06 AM

No offence but have you ever played games with this celeron.? (1610) Like some modern FPS on resolution about 1680x1050 or above.Or for example game like lineage2? Do you know what happen when like 30+ chars appear on your screen? Maybe you are some kind of paper rat which only reads the performance charts but never play games... anyways ... Tell me how the g 1610 is better after you cant overclock it and you are forever stuck at (dual core at 2.7 ghz) .. It doesnt even respond to some game system requirements which demands (some triple core-cpu at least)... And about nvidia..and amd vga.. Try to play s.t.a.l.k.e.r with amd vga. especially low end.Tell me if you see clouds or doors on the buildings. Anyways i dont have time to spare arguing in vain for stupied things. Its your rig.Its you choice. bba
a b 4 Gaming
June 17, 2013 4:44:18 AM

I would never suggest less than 4 cores for gaming
June 17, 2013 12:00:55 PM

i game on a dual core ivy bridge. works great. don't underestimate those chips.
a b 4 Gaming
June 18, 2013 6:51:11 AM

games are going to be ever more multithreaded (especially with PS4 and XBone) There's a reason Tom's recommends an Athlon II X4 for gaming over a Celeron/Pentium dual core.
a b 4 Gaming
June 18, 2013 6:51:12 AM

duplicate post.
June 18, 2013 11:21:47 AM

eventually yes. but right now, my chip cost me $50. best value in gaming.
July 8, 2013 9:54:50 PM

I am a little late to the game here guys, but I have a Celeron G530 which I was using on an MSI H61MA-E35 motherboard. The reason for this was because my P8Z68-V LX had just bit the dust and I wanted to see if it could handle any recent games.

I paired it with a GTX 670, and was able to play Battlefield 3 at nearly the same FPS as my i5-2500K @ 1920x1080, Ultra settings w/ 4xAA. There was no stuttering, and there was no issues whatsoever with framerates. It remained well above an acceptable framerate (30-40+ FPS).

People saying that you "need" 4 cores for gaming, and that "the Celeron is not capable of full HD gaming" really need to get a grip. "Celeron" does not mean underpowered - it's Intel's classification for their budget-series processors. In this case, it is MUCH more than capable of doing everything that this guy's user needs it to.

An Athlon II X4's single-threaded performance, and overall performance, are much lower than the G530's and the G1610's performance. The lower power consumption and the better instruction sets means that it will only pull ahead as time goes on with applications taking advantage of SSE4 instructions, and better processor design. Once again, in this case, the G1610 is a superior option.

Apologies for thread resurrection, I felt this information will be useful for people in the future.
July 14, 2013 1:35:50 AM

Also, the Celeron G1610 performs just as good as the Pentium G640 which costs $30 more.
(Less power consumption too!)
August 11, 2013 4:27:31 AM

Hello, i have got same CPU and MOBO and RAM (1x4GB) , which GPU is the best solution to upgrade ? Now i play only on integrated GPU hd 2500. Is HD 5770/6770 good enough or should i rather take something as hd 6850/gtx 460 ? Or will be celeron bottleneck with this cards? PSU 350 W, no name.
August 11, 2013 5:05:01 AM

Lumen2012 said:
Hello, i have got same CPU and MOBO and RAM (1x4GB) , which GPU is the best solution to upgrade ? Now i play only on integrated GPU hd 2500. Is HD 5770/6770 good enough or should i rather take something as hd 6850/gtx 460 ? Or will be celeron bottleneck with this cards? PSU 350 W, no name.


What games do you play? What resolution? Any GPU higher than the 7790 will get bottlenecked by your CPU. Also, avoid buying old GPUs though. They consume much more energy and probably won't support DX12 when it comes out.

I just bought the 7850 2gb (used) for $115 20 minutes ago. I'll be pairing it with a G1610 which will bottleneck the GPU but I don't really care because I got the GPU for the same price as the 7750.
August 11, 2013 12:17:06 PM

Actually i play on intel graphic so only older games in 1024x768 (Counter-strike 1.6, Hidden and dangerous2, Bioshock..), except of Warframe, it is newer. Resolution and games depend on graphic card. I wanna try Mafia2, Battlefield 3, Counter-strike GO, Grand theft auto IV, V...
Quote:
Any GPU higher than the 7790 will get bottlenecked by your CPU

I am glad to hear that. It is o.k. i dont wanna spend lot of money for GPU. In my country i can buy used 5770 for $67 and used gtx 460/hd 6850 for $93.
Btw: radeon 7850 for $115 is a great deal, congratz. (In my country starts at $170 used)
August 13, 2013 12:09:26 AM

Lumen2012 said:
Actually i play on intel graphic so only older games in 1024x768 (Counter-strike 1.6, Hidden and dangerous2, Bioshock..), except of Warframe, it is newer. Resolution and games depend on graphic card. I wanna try Mafia2, Battlefield 3, Counter-strike GO, Grand theft auto IV, V...
Quote:
Any GPU higher than the 7790 will get bottlenecked by your CPU

I am glad to hear that. It is o.k. i dont wanna spend lot of money for GPU. In my country i can buy used 5770 for $67 and used gtx 460/hd 6850 for $93.
Btw: radeon 7850 for $115 is a great deal, congratz. (In my country starts at $170 used)


I can play
CS: Source highest settings at 1440x900 (60+ fps).
GTA IV lowest settings at 800x600 windowed (35+ fps).
CS: GO lowest settings at 1024x768 windowed (30 fps).

USING MY INTEL HD 2500!
August 14, 2013 1:08:50 PM

Thats not bad for integrated graphic. I already tried GTA4, but it doesnt looks very pretty. Anyway i am still decided to buy cheap discrete graphic card. At least radeon something as 5770, only wait for good deal.
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