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Has any manufacturer ever designed/built a loudspeaker that reversed the
functions of the voicecoil and permanent magnet, such that the permanent
magnet was attached to the speaker cone and the electromagnet was the
stationary magnet?

What about having the voicecoil on the outside rim of the speaker rather
than on the inside? Has this ever been done?

Instead of using a single voicecoil in the center, how about one on the edge
and one in the middle?

How about a dual voice coil, one being driven and the second providing
feedback like a closed servo loop?

Regards, rtt

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On Wed, 26 May 2004 22:10:50 GMT, "Richard Tomkins"
<tomkinsr@istop.com> wrote:

>Has any manufacturer ever designed/built a loudspeaker that reversed the
>functions of the voicecoil and permanent magnet, such that the permanent
>magnet was attached to the speaker cone and the electromagnet was the
>stationary magnet?

Would add substantial moving mass which is usually unwanted.

>What about having the voicecoil on the outside rim of the speaker rather
>than on the inside? Has this ever been done?

Most dome tweeters. Some have attempted this with larger drivers.

>Instead of using a single voicecoil in the center, how about one on the edge
>and one in the middle?

If you could control the drive in a coordinated way.

>How about a dual voice coil, one being driven and the second providing
>feedback like a closed servo loop?

Old hat.

Kal

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Great. Any examples or URL's to reference?


"Kalman Rubinson" <kr4@nyu.edu> wrote in message
news:s86ab0tije4vo4qk5gr3dfam49b5ui83gi@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 26 May 2004 22:10:50 GMT, "Richard Tomkins"
> <tomkinsr@istop.com> wrote:
>
> >Has any manufacturer ever designed/built a loudspeaker that reversed the
> >functions of the voicecoil and permanent magnet, such that the permanent
> >magnet was attached to the speaker cone and the electromagnet was the
> >stationary magnet?
>
> Would add substantial moving mass which is usually unwanted.
>
> >What about having the voicecoil on the outside rim of the speaker rather
> >than on the inside? Has this ever been done?
>
> Most dome tweeters. Some have attempted this with larger drivers.
>
> >Instead of using a single voicecoil in the center, how about one on the
edge
> >and one in the middle?
>
> If you could control the drive in a coordinated way.
>
> >How about a dual voice coil, one being driven and the second providing
> >feedback like a closed servo loop?
>
> Old hat.
>
> Kal

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On Thu, 27 May 2004 02:23:28 GMT, "Richard Tomkins"
<tomkinsr@istop.com> wrote:

>Great. Any examples or URL's to reference?

No. Have none off hand and no time for such research.

Kal


>
>
>"Kalman Rubinson" <kr4@nyu.edu> wrote in message
>news:s86ab0tije4vo4qk5gr3dfam49b5ui83gi@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 26 May 2004 22:10:50 GMT, "Richard Tomkins"
>> <tomkinsr@istop.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Has any manufacturer ever designed/built a loudspeaker that reversed the
>> >functions of the voicecoil and permanent magnet, such that the permanent
>> >magnet was attached to the speaker cone and the electromagnet was the
>> >stationary magnet?
>>
>> Would add substantial moving mass which is usually unwanted.
>>
>> >What about having the voicecoil on the outside rim of the speaker rather
>> >than on the inside? Has this ever been done?
>>
>> Most dome tweeters. Some have attempted this with larger drivers.
>>
>> >Instead of using a single voicecoil in the center, how about one on the
>edge
>> >and one in the middle?
>>
>> If you could control the drive in a coordinated way.
>>
>> >How about a dual voice coil, one being driven and the second providing
>> >feedback like a closed servo loop?
>>
>> Old hat.
>>
>> Kal
>

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On 28 May 2004 01:26:41 GMT, YourNameFirst <dropthepuck@center.com>
wrote:

>Kalman Rubinson wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 27 May 2004 02:23:28 GMT, "Richard Tomkins"
>> <tomkinsr@istop.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Great. Any examples or URL's to reference?
>>
>> No. Have none off hand and no time for such research.
>>
>Din't Carver have some offering with the feedback thing going on at one time?

Many powered subs today do but not all use the second VC. Wireless
World published a DIY article for this.

Kal

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"Richard Tomkins" <tomkinsr@istop.com> wrote in message news:<1ed4fca729895c10541ebd08b44ee484@news.teranews.com>...
> Has any manufacturer ever designed/built a loudspeaker that reversed the
> functions of the voicecoil and permanent magnet, such that the permanent
> magnet was attached to the speaker cone and the electromagnet was the
> stationary magnet?
>
> What about having the voicecoil on the outside rim of the speaker rather
> than on the inside? Has this ever been done?
>
> Instead of using a single voicecoil in the center, how about one on the edge
> and one in the middle?
>
> How about a dual voice coil, one being driven and the second providing
> feedback like a closed servo loop?
>
> Regards, rtt


Way back in the day there were speakers with conventional voice
coils but that used a stationary electro-magnet instead of a permanent
magnet. In order to energize that stationary coil it was also used as
the filter inductor in the power supply.

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