Pirates of the Caribbean

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Hi

I have purchased the above game and although it installed correctly it wont
start. I get an error message stating that I have a "debugger" running and i
need to close this before the game will run.
Where di i find the program and how do I close it down

Thanks

Howelljo
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  1. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.games (More info?)

    Hi Howelljo,


    That error may occur if one or more of the following conditions are true:

    a.. There are programs (such as an antivirus program or debugging software)
    that run in the background and that interfere with the game startup process.
    b.. Your sound card or sound card drivers are outdated.
    c.. The Creative Audigy sound card is installed in your computer. This sound
    card may conflict with the game startup process.

    RESOLUTION
    To resolve this issue, use the methods presented in this article:
    http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=812759

    --
    Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

    Game FAQs: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=FH;[LN];gms
    Visit my Zone.com / Gaming Helpsite: http://nibblesnbits.tk or Call / Contact
    MS Support at: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=sz;en-us;top
    My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    _________________________________________________________


    "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:BBDA51B7-C7F2-49D6-881F-10A8DF20B7C1@microsoft.com...
    | Hi
    |
    | I have purchased the above game and although it installed correctly it wont
    | start. I get an error message stating that I have a "debugger" running and i
    | need to close this before the game will run.
    | Where di i find the program and how do I close it down
    |
    | Thanks
    |
    | Howelljo
  2. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.games (More info?)

    "Jimmy S." wrote:

    > Hi Howelljo,
    >
    >
    > That error may occur if one or more of the following conditions are true:
    >
    > a.. There are programs (such as an antivirus program or debugging software)
    > that run in the background and that interfere with the game startup process.
    > b.. Your sound card or sound card drivers are outdated.
    > c.. The Creative Audigy sound card is installed in your computer. This sound
    > card may conflict with the game startup process.
    >
    > RESOLUTION
    > To resolve this issue, use the methods presented in this article:
    > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=812759
    >
    > --
    > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    >
    > Game FAQs: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=FH;[LN];gms
    > Visit my Zone.com / Gaming Helpsite: http://nibblesnbits.tk or Call / Contact
    > MS Support at: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=sz;en-us;top
    > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    > _________________________________________________________
    >
    >
    > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:BBDA51B7-C7F2-49D6-881F-10A8DF20B7C1@microsoft.com...
    > | Hi
    > |
    > | I have purchased the above game and although it installed correctly it wont
    > | start. I get an error message stating that I have a "debugger" running and i
    > | need to close this before the game will run.
    > | Where di i find the program and how do I close it down
    > |
    > | Thanks
    > |
    > | Howelljo
    >
    >
    > None of the suggestions work.
    My computer is regulaly updated - and my audio drivers are Legacy / Nvidia.
    I have put in a search for the amdfix.sys file and it does not appear to be
    on my system.
    Any other suggestions? as this is not the only game to give me this message
    and it's extremely annoying. The game runs a brief load up screen and then
    givee me the message. I run xp professional and it's asking whether i'm
    running WinIce/SoftIce software.

    Thanks
  3. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.games (More info?)

    Hi Howelljo,

    Here's what Nick Kritselis from Microsoft suggests ...

    This can occur if you have the /DEBUG switch in your boot.ini file. Follow
    these steps to remove the /DEBUG switch:

    1) Make sure Windows is set to Show All Files. To view protected operating
    system files:
    Double-click My Computer.
    On the Tools menu, click Folder Options.
    Click the View tab.
    Click the "Show hidden files and folders" circle under "Hidden files and
    folders".
    Click to clear the "Hide extensions for known file types" check box.
    Click to clear the "Hide protected operating system files" check box.
    Click Yes when you are prompted to confirm your choice.
    Click OK.

    2) Find boot.ini on C:\
    3) Right-click on the file-icon and choose Properties - uncheck the
    Read-Only check box if it is checked, then click OK.
    4) Double-click the boot.ini file, you should see text that looks like this:
    [boot loader]
    timeout=30
    default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
    [operating systems]
    multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
    Professional" /fastdetect /DEBUG

    5) Remove the "/DEBUG" listing and any other "/" listings after ""Microsoft
    Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect" *** WARNING - If you have a multi-boot
    option, you may show more than one line under "[Operating systems]". Only
    remove text on the line pertaining to the operating system you are booting
    to. ***
    6) Save the boot.ini file and close all Windows to desktop.
    7) Reboot system.

    Hope this helps.

    Thanks,
    Nick Kritselis [MS]
    This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

    --
    Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

    Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    _________________________________________________________

    "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:0971A10C-5995-4F10-AD58-15B8577C8186@microsoft.com...
    |
    |
    | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    |
    | > Hi Howelljo,
    | >
    | >
    | > That error may occur if one or more of the following conditions are true:
    | >
    | > a.. There are programs (such as an antivirus program or debugging software)
    | > that run in the background and that interfere with the game startup process.
    | > b.. Your sound card or sound card drivers are outdated.
    | > c.. The Creative Audigy sound card is installed in your computer. This sound
    | > card may conflict with the game startup process.
    | >
    | > RESOLUTION
    | > To resolve this issue, use the methods presented in this article:
    | > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=812759
    | >
    | > --
    | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    | >
    | > Game FAQs: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=FH;[LN];gms
    | > Visit my Zone.com / Gaming Helpsite: http://nibblesnbits.tk or Call / Contact
    | > MS Support at: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=sz;en-us;top
    | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    | > _________________________________________________________
    | >
    | >
    | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:BBDA51B7-C7F2-49D6-881F-10A8DF20B7C1@microsoft.com...
    | > | Hi
    | > |
    | > | I have purchased the above game and although it installed correctly it wont
    | > | start. I get an error message stating that I have a "debugger" running and i
    | > | need to close this before the game will run.
    | > | Where di i find the program and how do I close it down
    | > |
    | > | Thanks
    | > |
    | > | Howelljo
    | >
    | >
    | > None of the suggestions work.
    | My computer is regulaly updated - and my audio drivers are Legacy / Nvidia.
    | I have put in a search for the amdfix.sys file and it does not appear to be
    | on my system.
    | Any other suggestions? as this is not the only game to give me this message
    | and it's extremely annoying. The game runs a brief load up screen and then
    | givee me the message. I run xp professional and it's asking whether i'm
    | running WinIce/SoftIce software.
    |
    | Thanks
  4. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.games (More info?)

    "Jimmy S." wrote:

    > Hi Howelljo,
    >
    > Here's what Nick Kritselis from Microsoft suggests ...
    >
    > This can occur if you have the /DEBUG switch in your boot.ini file. Follow
    > these steps to remove the /DEBUG switch:
    >
    > 1) Make sure Windows is set to Show All Files. To view protected operating
    > system files:
    > Double-click My Computer.
    > On the Tools menu, click Folder Options.
    > Click the View tab.
    > Click the "Show hidden files and folders" circle under "Hidden files and
    > folders".
    > Click to clear the "Hide extensions for known file types" check box.
    > Click to clear the "Hide protected operating system files" check box.
    > Click Yes when you are prompted to confirm your choice.
    > Click OK.
    >
    > 2) Find boot.ini on C:\
    > 3) Right-click on the file-icon and choose Properties - uncheck the
    > Read-Only check box if it is checked, then click OK.
    > 4) Double-click the boot.ini file, you should see text that looks like this:
    > [boot loader]
    > timeout=30
    > default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
    > [operating systems]
    > multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
    > Professional" /fastdetect /DEBUG
    >
    > 5) Remove the "/DEBUG" listing and any other "/" listings after ""Microsoft
    > Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect" *** WARNING - If you have a multi-boot
    > option, you may show more than one line under "[Operating systems]". Only
    > remove text on the line pertaining to the operating system you are booting
    > to. ***
    > 6) Save the boot.ini file and close all Windows to desktop.
    > 7) Reboot system.
    >
    > Hope this helps.
    >
    > Thanks,
    > Nick Kritselis [MS]
    > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
    >
    > --
    > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    >
    > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    > _________________________________________________________
    >
    > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:0971A10C-5995-4F10-AD58-15B8577C8186@microsoft.com...
    > |
    > |
    > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    > |
    > | > Hi Howelljo,
    > | >
    > | >
    > | > That error may occur if one or more of the following conditions are true:
    > | >
    > | > a.. There are programs (such as an antivirus program or debugging software)
    > | > that run in the background and that interfere with the game startup process.
    > | > b.. Your sound card or sound card drivers are outdated.
    > | > c.. The Creative Audigy sound card is installed in your computer. This sound
    > | > card may conflict with the game startup process.
    > | >
    > | > RESOLUTION
    > | > To resolve this issue, use the methods presented in this article:
    > | > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=812759
    > | >
    > | > --
    > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    > | >
    > | > Game FAQs: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=FH;[LN];gms
    > | > Visit my Zone.com / Gaming Helpsite: http://nibblesnbits.tk or Call / Contact
    > | > MS Support at: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=sz;en-us;top
    > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    > | > _________________________________________________________
    > | >
    > | >
    > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:BBDA51B7-C7F2-49D6-881F-10A8DF20B7C1@microsoft.com...
    > | > | Hi
    > | > |
    > | > | I have purchased the above game and although it installed correctly it wont
    > | > | start. I get an error message stating that I have a "debugger" running and i
    > | > | need to close this before the game will run.
    > | > | Where di i find the program and how do I close it down
    > | > |
    > | > | Thanks
    > | > |
    > | > | Howelljo
    > | >
    > | >
    > | > None of the suggestions work.
    > | My computer is regulaly updated - and my audio drivers are Legacy / Nvidia.
    > | I have put in a search for the amdfix.sys file and it does not appear to be
    > | on my system.
    > | Any other suggestions? as this is not the only game to give me this message
    > | and it's extremely annoying. The game runs a brief load up screen and then
    > | givee me the message. I run xp professional and it's asking whether i'm
    > | running WinIce/SoftIce software.
    > |
    > | Thanks
    >
    >
    > Sorry, no good - I didn't have the "debug" line written into the system. Next suggestion please
  5. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.games (More info?)

    Hi Howelljo,

    Did you also use all the methods in this MS KB including Clean Boot?
    http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=812759

    --
    Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

    Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    _________________________________________________________

    "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:85744D49-18FA-48ED-A26E-759F8B238793@microsoft.com...
    |
    |
    | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    |
    | > Hi Howelljo,
    | >
    | > Here's what Nick Kritselis from Microsoft suggests ...
    | >
    | > This can occur if you have the /DEBUG switch in your boot.ini file. Follow
    | > these steps to remove the /DEBUG switch:
    | >
    | > 1) Make sure Windows is set to Show All Files. To view protected operating
    | > system files:
    | > Double-click My Computer.
    | > On the Tools menu, click Folder Options.
    | > Click the View tab.
    | > Click the "Show hidden files and folders" circle under "Hidden files and
    | > folders".
    | > Click to clear the "Hide extensions for known file types" check box.
    | > Click to clear the "Hide protected operating system files" check box.
    | > Click Yes when you are prompted to confirm your choice.
    | > Click OK.
    | >
    | > 2) Find boot.ini on C:\
    | > 3) Right-click on the file-icon and choose Properties - uncheck the
    | > Read-Only check box if it is checked, then click OK.
    | > 4) Double-click the boot.ini file, you should see text that looks like this:
    | > [boot loader]
    | > timeout=30
    | > default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
    | > [operating systems]
    | > multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
    | > Professional" /fastdetect /DEBUG
    | >
    | > 5) Remove the "/DEBUG" listing and any other "/" listings after ""Microsoft
    | > Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect" *** WARNING - If you have a multi-boot
    | > option, you may show more than one line under "[Operating systems]". Only
    | > remove text on the line pertaining to the operating system you are booting
    | > to. ***
    | > 6) Save the boot.ini file and close all Windows to desktop.
    | > 7) Reboot system.
    | >
    | > Hope this helps.
    | >
    | > Thanks,
    | > Nick Kritselis [MS]
    | > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
    | >
    | > --
    | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    | >
    | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    | > _________________________________________________________
    | >
    | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:0971A10C-5995-4F10-AD58-15B8577C8186@microsoft.com...
    | > |
    | > |
    | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    | > |
    | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    | > | >
    | > | >
    | > | > That error may occur if one or more of the following conditions are true:
    | > | >
    | > | > a.. There are programs (such as an antivirus program or debugging software)
    | > | > that run in the background and that interfere with the game startup process.
    | > | > b.. Your sound card or sound card drivers are outdated.
    | > | > c.. The Creative Audigy sound card is installed in your computer. This sound
    | > | > card may conflict with the game startup process.
    | > | >
    | > | > RESOLUTION
    | > | > To resolve this issue, use the methods presented in this article:
    | > | > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=812759
    | > | >
    | > | > --
    | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    | > | >
    | > | > Game FAQs: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=FH;[LN];gms
    | > | > Visit my Zone.com / Gaming Helpsite: http://nibblesnbits.tk or Call / Contact
    | > | > MS Support at: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=sz;en-us;top
    | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    | > | > _________________________________________________________
    | > | >
    | > | >
    | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:BBDA51B7-C7F2-49D6-881F-10A8DF20B7C1@microsoft.com...
    | > | > | Hi
    | > | > |
    | > | > | I have purchased the above game and although it installed correctly it wont
    | > | > | start. I get an error message stating that I have a "debugger" running and i
    | > | > | need to close this before the game will run.
    | > | > | Where di i find the program and how do I close it down
    | > | > |
    | > | > | Thanks
    | > | > |
    | > | > | Howelljo
    | > | >
    | > | >
    | > | > None of the suggestions work.
    | > | My computer is regulaly updated - and my audio drivers are Legacy / Nvidia.
    | > | I have put in a search for the amdfix.sys file and it does not appear to be
    | > | on my system.
    | > | Any other suggestions? as this is not the only game to give me this message
    | > | and it's extremely annoying. The game runs a brief load up screen and then
    | > | givee me the message. I run xp professional and it's asking whether i'm
    | > | running WinIce/SoftIce software.
    | > |
    | > | Thanks
    | >
    | >
    | > Sorry, no good - I didn't have the "debug" line written into the system. Next suggestion please
  6. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.games (More info?)

    "Jimmy S." wrote:

    > Hi Howelljo,
    >
    > Did you also use all the methods in this MS KB including Clean Boot?
    > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=812759
    >
    > --
    > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

    Hi Jimmy

    Yes I tried everything, there is no amdfix.sys file on my system I even
    tried a wildcard search for AMD. The clean boot made no difference and I do
    not have the Creative Audigy soundcard installed. I am at a loss at the
    moment

    howelljo
    >
    > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    > _________________________________________________________
    >
    > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:85744D49-18FA-48ED-A26E-759F8B238793@microsoft.com...
    > |
    > |
    > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    > |
    > | > Hi Howelljo,
    > | >
    > | > Here's what Nick Kritselis from Microsoft suggests ...
    > | >
    > | > This can occur if you have the /DEBUG switch in your boot.ini file. Follow
    > | > these steps to remove the /DEBUG switch:
    > | >
    > | > 1) Make sure Windows is set to Show All Files. To view protected operating
    > | > system files:
    > | > Double-click My Computer.
    > | > On the Tools menu, click Folder Options.
    > | > Click the View tab.
    > | > Click the "Show hidden files and folders" circle under "Hidden files and
    > | > folders".
    > | > Click to clear the "Hide extensions for known file types" check box.
    > | > Click to clear the "Hide protected operating system files" check box.
    > | > Click Yes when you are prompted to confirm your choice.
    > | > Click OK.
    > | >
    > | > 2) Find boot.ini on C:\
    > | > 3) Right-click on the file-icon and choose Properties - uncheck the
    > | > Read-Only check box if it is checked, then click OK.
    > | > 4) Double-click the boot.ini file, you should see text that looks like this:
    > | > [boot loader]
    > | > timeout=30
    > | > default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
    > | > [operating systems]
    > | > multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
    > | > Professional" /fastdetect /DEBUG
    > | >
    > | > 5) Remove the "/DEBUG" listing and any other "/" listings after ""Microsoft
    > | > Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect" *** WARNING - If you have a multi-boot
    > | > option, you may show more than one line under "[Operating systems]". Only
    > | > remove text on the line pertaining to the operating system you are booting
    > | > to. ***
    > | > 6) Save the boot.ini file and close all Windows to desktop.
    > | > 7) Reboot system.
    > | >
    > | > Hope this helps.
    > | >
    > | > Thanks,
    > | > Nick Kritselis [MS]
    > | > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
    > | >
    > | > --
    > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    > | >
    > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    > | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    > | > _________________________________________________________
    > | >
    > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:0971A10C-5995-4F10-AD58-15B8577C8186@microsoft.com...
    > | > |
    > | > |
    > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    > | > |
    > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    > | > | >
    > | > | >
    > | > | > That error may occur if one or more of the following conditions are true:
    > | > | >
    > | > | > a.. There are programs (such as an antivirus program or debugging software)
    > | > | > that run in the background and that interfere with the game startup process.
    > | > | > b.. Your sound card or sound card drivers are outdated.
    > | > | > c.. The Creative Audigy sound card is installed in your computer. This sound
    > | > | > card may conflict with the game startup process.
    > | > | >
    > | > | > RESOLUTION
    > | > | > To resolve this issue, use the methods presented in this article:
    > | > | > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=812759
    > | > | >
    > | > | > --
    > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    > | > | >
    > | > | > Game FAQs: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=FH;[LN];gms
    > | > | > Visit my Zone.com / Gaming Helpsite: http://nibblesnbits.tk or Call / Contact
    > | > | > MS Support at: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=sz;en-us;top
    > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    > | > | > _________________________________________________________
    > | > | >
    > | > | >
    > | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:BBDA51B7-C7F2-49D6-881F-10A8DF20B7C1@microsoft.com...
    > | > | > | Hi
    > | > | > |
    > | > | > | I have purchased the above game and although it installed correctly it wont
    > | > | > | start. I get an error message stating that I have a "debugger" running and i
    > | > | > | need to close this before the game will run.
    > | > | > | Where di i find the program and how do I close it down
    > | > | > |
    > | > | > | Thanks
    > | > | > |
    > | > | > | Howelljo
    > | > | >
    > | > | >
    > | > | > None of the suggestions work.
    > | > | My computer is regulaly updated - and my audio drivers are Legacy / Nvidia.
    > | > | I have put in a search for the amdfix.sys file and it does not appear to be
    > | > | on my system.
    > | > | Any other suggestions? as this is not the only game to give me this message
    > | > | and it's extremely annoying. The game runs a brief load up screen and then
    > | > | givee me the message. I run xp professional and it's asking whether i'm
    > | > | running WinIce/SoftIce software.
    > | > |
    > | > | Thanks
    > | >
    > | >
    > | > Sorry, no good - I didn't have the "debug" line written into the system. Next suggestion please
    >
    >
    >
  7. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.games (More info?)

    Hi Howelljo,

    There's a couple of additional steps we should explore:

    1. In case you have malware on your system which is being detected
    as a debugger, run a complete AntiVirus and AntiSpyware scan;

    2. In case your Profile is corrupt, create a new account on your system
    with administrator privileges, and try installing PoC using that account.

    --
    Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

    Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    _________________________________________________________

    "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:F62F4008-F6F5-4EF8-8010-F5B93211F7F1@microsoft.com...
    |
    |
    | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    |
    | > Hi Howelljo,
    | >
    | > Did you also use all the methods in this MS KB including Clean Boot?
    | > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=812759
    | >
    | > --
    | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    |
    | Hi Jimmy
    |
    | Yes I tried everything, there is no amdfix.sys file on my system I even
    | tried a wildcard search for AMD. The clean boot made no difference and I do
    | not have the Creative Audigy soundcard installed. I am at a loss at the
    | moment
    |
    | howelljo
    | >
    | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    | > _________________________________________________________
    | >
    | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:85744D49-18FA-48ED-A26E-759F8B238793@microsoft.com...
    | > |
    | > |
    | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    | > |
    | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    | > | >
    | > | > Here's what Nick Kritselis from Microsoft suggests ...
    | > | >
    | > | > This can occur if you have the /DEBUG switch in your boot.ini file. Follow
    | > | > these steps to remove the /DEBUG switch:
    | > | >
    | > | > 1) Make sure Windows is set to Show All Files. To view protected operating
    | > | > system files:
    | > | > Double-click My Computer.
    | > | > On the Tools menu, click Folder Options.
    | > | > Click the View tab.
    | > | > Click the "Show hidden files and folders" circle under "Hidden files and
    | > | > folders".
    | > | > Click to clear the "Hide extensions for known file types" check box.
    | > | > Click to clear the "Hide protected operating system files" check box.
    | > | > Click Yes when you are prompted to confirm your choice.
    | > | > Click OK.
    | > | >
    | > | > 2) Find boot.ini on C:\
    | > | > 3) Right-click on the file-icon and choose Properties - uncheck the
    | > | > Read-Only check box if it is checked, then click OK.
    | > | > 4) Double-click the boot.ini file, you should see text that looks like this:
    | > | > [boot loader]
    | > | > timeout=30
    | > | > default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
    | > | > [operating systems]
    | > | > multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
    | > | > Professional" /fastdetect /DEBUG
    | > | >
    | > | > 5) Remove the "/DEBUG" listing and any other "/" listings after ""Microsoft
    | > | > Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect" *** WARNING - If you have a multi-boot
    | > | > option, you may show more than one line under "[Operating systems]". Only
    | > | > remove text on the line pertaining to the operating system you are booting
    | > | > to. ***
    | > | > 6) Save the boot.ini file and close all Windows to desktop.
    | > | > 7) Reboot system.
    | > | >
    | > | > Hope this helps.
    | > | >
    | > | > Thanks,
    | > | > Nick Kritselis [MS]
    | > | > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
    | > | >
    | > | > --
    | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    | > | >
    | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    | > | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    | > | > _________________________________________________________
    | > | >
    | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:0971A10C-5995-4F10-AD58-15B8577C8186@microsoft.com...
    | > | > |
    | > | > |
    | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    | > | > |
    | > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    | > | > | >
    | > | > | >
    | > | > | > That error may occur if one or more of the following conditions are true:
    | > | > | >
    | > | > | > a.. There are programs (such as an antivirus program or debugging software)
    | > | > | > that run in the background and that interfere with the game startup process.
    | > | > | > b.. Your sound card or sound card drivers are outdated.
    | > | > | > c.. The Creative Audigy sound card is installed in your computer. This sound
    | > | > | > card may conflict with the game startup process.
    | > | > | >
    | > | > | > RESOLUTION
    | > | > | > To resolve this issue, use the methods presented in this article:
    | > | > | > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=812759
    | > | > | >
    | > | > | > --
    | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    | > | > | >
    | > | > | > Game FAQs: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=FH;[LN];gms
    | > | > | > Visit my Zone.com / Gaming Helpsite: http://nibblesnbits.tk or Call / Contact
    | > | > | > MS Support at: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=sz;en-us;top
    | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
    | > | > | >
    | > | > | >
    | > | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:BBDA51B7-C7F2-49D6-881F-10A8DF20B7C1@microsoft.com...
    | > | > | > | Hi
    | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > | I have purchased the above game and although it installed correctly it wont
    | > | > | > | start. I get an error message stating that I have a "debugger" running and i
    | > | > | > | need to close this before the game will run.
    | > | > | > | Where di i find the program and how do I close it down
    | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > | Thanks
    | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > | Howelljo
    | > | > | >
    | > | > | >
    | > | > | > None of the suggestions work.
    | > | > | My computer is regulaly updated - and my audio drivers are Legacy / Nvidia.
    | > | > | I have put in a search for the amdfix.sys file and it does not appear to be
    | > | > | on my system.
    | > | > | Any other suggestions? as this is not the only game to give me this message
    | > | > | and it's extremely annoying. The game runs a brief load up screen and then
    | > | > | givee me the message. I run xp professional and it's asking whether i'm
    | > | > | running WinIce/SoftIce software.
    | > | > |
    | > | > | Thanks
    | > | >
    | > | >
    | > | > Sorry, no good - I didn't have the "debug" line written into the system. Next suggestion please
    | >
    | >
    | >
  8. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.games (More info?)

    "Jimmy S." wrote:

    > Hi Howelljo,
    >
    > There's a couple of additional steps we should explore:
    >
    > 1. In case you have malware on your system which is being detected
    > as a debugger, run a complete AntiVirus and AntiSpyware scan;
    >
    > 2. In case your Profile is corrupt, create a new account on your system
    > with administrator privileges, and try installing PoC using that account.
    >
    > --
    > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    >

    Hi Jimmy

    Sorry, no good either. I regulalry check my machine for spyware and viruses
    and so neither was found. I did create a new profile and exactly the same
    message came up, so it's not a corrupted profiles. I even made sure that the
    disable debugging script was checked in the advanced section of internet
    explorer tool even though i run Firefox on my system. So its back to you I'm
    afraid

    Howelljo
    > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    > _________________________________________________________
    >
    > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:F62F4008-F6F5-4EF8-8010-F5B93211F7F1@microsoft.com...
    > |
    > |
    > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    > |
    > | > Hi Howelljo,
    > | >
    > | > Did you also use all the methods in this MS KB including Clean Boot?
    > | > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=812759
    > | >
    > | > --
    > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    > |
    > | Hi Jimmy
    > |
    > | Yes I tried everything, there is no amdfix.sys file on my system I even
    > | tried a wildcard search for AMD. The clean boot made no difference and I do
    > | not have the Creative Audigy soundcard installed. I am at a loss at the
    > | moment
    > |
    > | howelljo
    > | >
    > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    > | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    > | > _________________________________________________________
    > | >
    > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:85744D49-18FA-48ED-A26E-759F8B238793@microsoft.com...
    > | > |
    > | > |
    > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    > | > |
    > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    > | > | >
    > | > | > Here's what Nick Kritselis from Microsoft suggests ...
    > | > | >
    > | > | > This can occur if you have the /DEBUG switch in your boot.ini file. Follow
    > | > | > these steps to remove the /DEBUG switch:
    > | > | >
    > | > | > 1) Make sure Windows is set to Show All Files. To view protected operating
    > | > | > system files:
    > | > | > Double-click My Computer.
    > | > | > On the Tools menu, click Folder Options.
    > | > | > Click the View tab.
    > | > | > Click the "Show hidden files and folders" circle under "Hidden files and
    > | > | > folders".
    > | > | > Click to clear the "Hide extensions for known file types" check box.
    > | > | > Click to clear the "Hide protected operating system files" check box.
    > | > | > Click Yes when you are prompted to confirm your choice.
    > | > | > Click OK.
    > | > | >
    > | > | > 2) Find boot.ini on C:\
    > | > | > 3) Right-click on the file-icon and choose Properties - uncheck the
    > | > | > Read-Only check box if it is checked, then click OK.
    > | > | > 4) Double-click the boot.ini file, you should see text that looks like this:
    > | > | > [boot loader]
    > | > | > timeout=30
    > | > | > default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
    > | > | > [operating systems]
    > | > | > multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
    > | > | > Professional" /fastdetect /DEBUG
    > | > | >
    > | > | > 5) Remove the "/DEBUG" listing and any other "/" listings after ""Microsoft
    > | > | > Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect" *** WARNING - If you have a multi-boot
    > | > | > option, you may show more than one line under "[Operating systems]". Only
    > | > | > remove text on the line pertaining to the operating system you are booting
    > | > | > to. ***
    > | > | > 6) Save the boot.ini file and close all Windows to desktop.
    > | > | > 7) Reboot system.
    > | > | >
    > | > | > Hope this helps.
    > | > | >
    > | > | > Thanks,
    > | > | > Nick Kritselis [MS]
    > | > | > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
    > | > | >
    > | > | > --
    > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    > | > | >
    > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    > | > | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    > | > | > _________________________________________________________
    > | > | >
    > | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:0971A10C-5995-4F10-AD58-15B8577C8186@microsoft.com...
    > | > | > |
    > | > | > |
    > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    > | > | > |
    > | > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > That error may occur if one or more of the following conditions are true:
    > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > a.. There are programs (such as an antivirus program or debugging software)
    > | > | > | > that run in the background and that interfere with the game startup process.
    > | > | > | > b.. Your sound card or sound card drivers are outdated.
    > | > | > | > c.. The Creative Audigy sound card is installed in your computer. This sound
    > | > | > | > card may conflict with the game startup process.
    > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > RESOLUTION
    > | > | > | > To resolve this issue, use the methods presented in this article:
    > | > | > | > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=812759
    > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > --
    > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > Game FAQs: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=FH;[LN];gms
    > | > | > | > Visit my Zone.com / Gaming Helpsite: http://nibblesnbits.tk or Call / Contact
    > | > | > | > MS Support at: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=sz;en-us;top
    > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
    > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > news:BBDA51B7-C7F2-49D6-881F-10A8DF20B7C1@microsoft.com...
    > | > | > | > | Hi
    > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > | > | I have purchased the above game and although it installed correctly it wont
    > | > | > | > | start. I get an error message stating that I have a "debugger" running and i
    > | > | > | > | need to close this before the game will run.
    > | > | > | > | Where di i find the program and how do I close it down
    > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > | > | Thanks
    > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > | > | Howelljo
    > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > None of the suggestions work.
    > | > | > | My computer is regulaly updated - and my audio drivers are Legacy / Nvidia.
    > | > | > | I have put in a search for the amdfix.sys file and it does not appear to be
    > | > | > | on my system.
    > | > | > | Any other suggestions? as this is not the only game to give me this message
    > | > | > | and it's extremely annoying. The game runs a brief load up screen and then
    > | > | > | givee me the message. I run xp professional and it's asking whether i'm
    > | > | > | running WinIce/SoftIce software.
    > | > | > |
    > | > | > | Thanks
    > | > | >
    > | > | >
    > | > | > Sorry, no good - I didn't have the "debug" line written into the system. Next suggestion please
    > | >
    > | >
    > | >
    >
    >
    >
  9. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.games (More info?)

    Hi Howelljo,

    Lets see if there is a problem with the game's installer by trying to
    install that game on another Windows XP system to see the results.

    --
    Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

    Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    _________________________________________________________

    "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:403BCF2F-9060-461A-85C9-EE71A0DA995D@microsoft.com...
    |
    |
    | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    |
    | > Hi Howelljo,
    | >
    | > There's a couple of additional steps we should explore:
    | >
    | > 1. In case you have malware on your system which is being detected
    | > as a debugger, run a complete AntiVirus and AntiSpyware scan;
    | >
    | > 2. In case your Profile is corrupt, create a new account on your system
    | > with administrator privileges, and try installing PoC using that account.
    | >
    | > --
    | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    | >
    |
    | Hi Jimmy
    |
    | Sorry, no good either. I regulalry check my machine for spyware and viruses
    | and so neither was found. I did create a new profile and exactly the same
    | message came up, so it's not a corrupted profiles. I even made sure that the
    | disable debugging script was checked in the advanced section of internet
    | explorer tool even though i run Firefox on my system. So its back to you I'm
    | afraid
    |
    | Howelljo
    | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    | > _________________________________________________________
    | >
    | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:F62F4008-F6F5-4EF8-8010-F5B93211F7F1@microsoft.com...
    | > |
    | > |
    | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    | > |
    | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    | > | >
    | > | > Did you also use all the methods in this MS KB including Clean Boot?
    | > | > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=812759
    | > | >
    | > | > --
    | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    | > |
    | > | Hi Jimmy
    | > |
    | > | Yes I tried everything, there is no amdfix.sys file on my system I even
    | > | tried a wildcard search for AMD. The clean boot made no difference and I do
    | > | not have the Creative Audigy soundcard installed. I am at a loss at the
    | > | moment
    | > |
    | > | howelljo
    | > | >
    | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    | > | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    | > | > _________________________________________________________
    | > | >
    | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:85744D49-18FA-48ED-A26E-759F8B238793@microsoft.com...
    | > | > |
    | > | > |
    | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    | > | > |
    | > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    | > | > | >
    | > | > | > Here's what Nick Kritselis from Microsoft suggests ...
    | > | > | >
    | > | > | > This can occur if you have the /DEBUG switch in your boot.ini file. Follow
    | > | > | > these steps to remove the /DEBUG switch:
    | > | > | >
    | > | > | > 1) Make sure Windows is set to Show All Files. To view protected operating
    | > | > | > system files:
    | > | > | > Double-click My Computer.
    | > | > | > On the Tools menu, click Folder Options.
    | > | > | > Click the View tab.
    | > | > | > Click the "Show hidden files and folders" circle under "Hidden files and
    | > | > | > folders".
    | > | > | > Click to clear the "Hide extensions for known file types" check box.
    | > | > | > Click to clear the "Hide protected operating system files" check box.
    | > | > | > Click Yes when you are prompted to confirm your choice.
    | > | > | > Click OK.
    | > | > | >
    | > | > | > 2) Find boot.ini on C:\
    | > | > | > 3) Right-click on the file-icon and choose Properties - uncheck the
    | > | > | > Read-Only check box if it is checked, then click OK.
    | > | > | > 4) Double-click the boot.ini file, you should see text that looks like this:
    | > | > | > [boot loader]
    | > | > | > timeout=30
    | > | > | > default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
    | > | > | > [operating systems]
    | > | > | > multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
    | > | > | > Professional" /fastdetect /DEBUG
    | > | > | >
    | > | > | > 5) Remove the "/DEBUG" listing and any other "/" listings after ""Microsoft
    | > | > | > Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect" *** WARNING - If you have a multi-boot
    | > | > | > option, you may show more than one line under "[Operating systems]". Only
    | > | > | > remove text on the line pertaining to the operating system you are booting
    | > | > | > to. ***
    | > | > | > 6) Save the boot.ini file and close all Windows to desktop.
    | > | > | > 7) Reboot system.
    | > | > | >
    | > | > | > Hope this helps.
    | > | > | >
    | > | > | > Thanks,
    | > | > | > Nick Kritselis [MS]
    | > | > | > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
    | > | > | >
    | > | > | > --
    | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    | > | > | >
    | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    | > | > | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
    | > | > | >
    | > | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:0971A10C-5995-4F10-AD58-15B8577C8186@microsoft.com...
    | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > That error may occur if one or more of the following conditions are true:
    | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > a.. There are programs (such as an antivirus program or debugging software)
    | > | > | > | > that run in the background and that interfere with the game startup process.
    | > | > | > | > b.. Your sound card or sound card drivers are outdated.
    | > | > | > | > c.. The Creative Audigy sound card is installed in your computer. This sound
    | > | > | > | > card may conflict with the game startup process.
    | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > RESOLUTION
    | > | > | > | > To resolve this issue, use the methods presented in this article:
    | > | > | > | > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=812759
    | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > --
    | > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    | > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > Game FAQs: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=FH;[LN];gms
    | > | > | > | > Visit my Zone.com / Gaming Helpsite: http://nibblesnbits.tk or Call / Contact
    | > | > | > | > MS Support at: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=sz;en-us;top
    | > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    | > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
    | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    | > news:BBDA51B7-C7F2-49D6-881F-10A8DF20B7C1@microsoft.com...
    | > | > | > | > | Hi
    | > | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > | > | I have purchased the above game and although it installed correctly it wont
    | > | > | > | > | start. I get an error message stating that I have a "debugger" running and i
    | > | > | > | > | need to close this before the game will run.
    | > | > | > | > | Where di i find the program and how do I close it down
    | > | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > | > | Thanks
    | > | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > | > | Howelljo
    | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > None of the suggestions work.
    | > | > | > | My computer is regulaly updated - and my audio drivers are Legacy / Nvidia.
    | > | > | > | I have put in a search for the amdfix.sys file and it does not appear to be
    | > | > | > | on my system.
    | > | > | > | Any other suggestions? as this is not the only game to give me this message
    | > | > | > | and it's extremely annoying. The game runs a brief load up screen and then
    | > | > | > | givee me the message. I run xp professional and it's asking whether i'm
    | > | > | > | running WinIce/SoftIce software.
    | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > | Thanks
    | > | > | >
    | > | > | >
    | > | > | > Sorry, no good - I didn't have the "debug" line written into the system. Next suggestion please
    | > | >
    | > | >
    | > | >
    | >
    | >
    | >
  10. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.games (More info?)

    "Jimmy S." wrote:

    > Hi Howelljo,
    >
    > Lets see if there is a problem with the game's installer by trying to
    > install that game on another Windows XP system to see the results.
    >
    > -- Hi Jimmy, just loaded the game onto my works's pc which runs XP Professional and it ran beautifully first time, so it's obviously something loaded onto my home pc and not the game itself
    > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    >
    > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    > _________________________________________________________
    >
    > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:403BCF2F-9060-461A-85C9-EE71A0DA995D@microsoft.com...
    > |
    > |
    > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    > |
    > | > Hi Howelljo,
    > | >
    > | > There's a couple of additional steps we should explore:
    > | >
    > | > 1. In case you have malware on your system which is being detected
    > | > as a debugger, run a complete AntiVirus and AntiSpyware scan;
    > | >
    > | > 2. In case your Profile is corrupt, create a new account on your system
    > | > with administrator privileges, and try installing PoC using that account.
    > | >
    > | > --
    > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    > | >
    > |
    > | Hi Jimmy
    > |
    > | Sorry, no good either. I regulalry check my machine for spyware and viruses
    > | and so neither was found. I did create a new profile and exactly the same
    > | message came up, so it's not a corrupted profiles. I even made sure that the
    > | disable debugging script was checked in the advanced section of internet
    > | explorer tool even though i run Firefox on my system. So its back to you I'm
    > | afraid
    > |
    > | Howelljo
    > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    > | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    > | > _________________________________________________________
    > | >
    > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:F62F4008-F6F5-4EF8-8010-F5B93211F7F1@microsoft.com...
    > | > |
    > | > |
    > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    > | > |
    > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    > | > | >
    > | > | > Did you also use all the methods in this MS KB including Clean Boot?
    > | > | > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=812759
    > | > | >
    > | > | > --
    > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    > | > |
    > | > | Hi Jimmy
    > | > |
    > | > | Yes I tried everything, there is no amdfix.sys file on my system I even
    > | > | tried a wildcard search for AMD. The clean boot made no difference and I do
    > | > | not have the Creative Audigy soundcard installed. I am at a loss at the
    > | > | moment
    > | > |
    > | > | howelljo
    > | > | >
    > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    > | > | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    > | > | > _________________________________________________________
    > | > | >
    > | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:85744D49-18FA-48ED-A26E-759F8B238793@microsoft.com...
    > | > | > |
    > | > | > |
    > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    > | > | > |
    > | > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > Here's what Nick Kritselis from Microsoft suggests ...
    > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > This can occur if you have the /DEBUG switch in your boot.ini file. Follow
    > | > | > | > these steps to remove the /DEBUG switch:
    > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > 1) Make sure Windows is set to Show All Files. To view protected operating
    > | > | > | > system files:
    > | > | > | > Double-click My Computer.
    > | > | > | > On the Tools menu, click Folder Options.
    > | > | > | > Click the View tab.
    > | > | > | > Click the "Show hidden files and folders" circle under "Hidden files and
    > | > | > | > folders".
    > | > | > | > Click to clear the "Hide extensions for known file types" check box.
    > | > | > | > Click to clear the "Hide protected operating system files" check box.
    > | > | > | > Click Yes when you are prompted to confirm your choice.
    > | > | > | > Click OK.
    > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > 2) Find boot.ini on C:\
    > | > | > | > 3) Right-click on the file-icon and choose Properties - uncheck the
    > | > | > | > Read-Only check box if it is checked, then click OK.
    > | > | > | > 4) Double-click the boot.ini file, you should see text that looks like this:
    > | > | > | > [boot loader]
    > | > | > | > timeout=30
    > | > | > | > default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
    > | > | > | > [operating systems]
    > | > | > | > multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
    > | > | > | > Professional" /fastdetect /DEBUG
    > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > 5) Remove the "/DEBUG" listing and any other "/" listings after ""Microsoft
    > | > | > | > Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect" *** WARNING - If you have a multi-boot
    > | > | > | > option, you may show more than one line under "[Operating systems]". Only
    > | > | > | > remove text on the line pertaining to the operating system you are booting
    > | > | > | > to. ***
    > | > | > | > 6) Save the boot.ini file and close all Windows to desktop.
    > | > | > | > 7) Reboot system.
    > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > Hope this helps.
    > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > Thanks,
    > | > | > | > Nick Kritselis [MS]
    > | > | > | > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
    > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > --
    > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    > | > | > | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
    > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > news:0971A10C-5995-4F10-AD58-15B8577C8186@microsoft.com...
    > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > That error may occur if one or more of the following conditions are true:
    > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > a.. There are programs (such as an antivirus program or debugging software)
    > | > | > | > | > that run in the background and that interfere with the game startup process.
    > | > | > | > | > b.. Your sound card or sound card drivers are outdated.
    > | > | > | > | > c.. The Creative Audigy sound card is installed in your computer. This sound
    > | > | > | > | > card may conflict with the game startup process.
    > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > RESOLUTION
    > | > | > | > | > To resolve this issue, use the methods presented in this article:
    > | > | > | > | > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=812759
    > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > --
    > | > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    > | > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > Game FAQs: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=FH;[LN];gms
    > | > | > | > | > Visit my Zone.com / Gaming Helpsite: http://nibblesnbits.tk or Call / Contact
    > | > | > | > | > MS Support at: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=sz;en-us;top
    > | > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    > | > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
    > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > | > news:BBDA51B7-C7F2-49D6-881F-10A8DF20B7C1@microsoft.com...
    > | > | > | > | > | Hi
    > | > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > | > | > | I have purchased the above game and although it installed correctly it wont
    > | > | > | > | > | start. I get an error message stating that I have a "debugger" running and i
    > | > | > | > | > | need to close this before the game will run.
    > | > | > | > | > | Where di i find the program and how do I close it down
    > | > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > | > | > | Thanks
    > | > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > | > | > | Howelljo
    > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > None of the suggestions work.
    > | > | > | > | My computer is regulaly updated - and my audio drivers are Legacy / Nvidia.
    > | > | > | > | I have put in a search for the amdfix.sys file and it does not appear to be
    > | > | > | > | on my system.
    > | > | > | > | Any other suggestions? as this is not the only game to give me this message
    > | > | > | > | and it's extremely annoying. The game runs a brief load up screen and then
    > | > | > | > | givee me the message. I run xp professional and it's asking whether i'm
    > | > | > | > | running WinIce/SoftIce software.
    > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > | > | Thanks
    > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > Sorry, no good - I didn't have the "debug" line written into the system. Next suggestion please
    > | > | >
    > | > | >
    > | > | >
    > | >
    > | >
    > | >
    >
    >
    >
  11. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.games (More info?)

    Hi Howelljo,

    Here's what we've done to narrow down the culprit:

    1. We tried another profile;
    2. We tried Safe Mode to rule out any other software (conflicts);
    3. We tried the game on another PC to rule out the game itself;
    4. We ran a complete virus and spyware scan to rule out malware;
    5. We tried all of the MS and "known solutions" for the error ...

    The next logical conclusion is that your current installation is at fault.


    How To Repair Windows:
    Unplug from your Internet connection, and then repair Windows:
    using this method: http://michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm

    Afterwards, boot up your system, turn on your XP Internet Firewall,
    plug back into your Internet connection and install all Critical and
    Recommended updates from: http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com

    --
    Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com


    Game FAQs: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=FH;[LN];gms
    Visit my Zone.com / Gaming Helpsite: http://nibblesnbits.tk or Call / Contact
    MS Support at: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=sz;en-us;top
    My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    _________________________________________________________


    "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:D6EA6714-3D0A-49C3-8539-D4F7CB958095@microsoft.com...
    |
    |
    | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    |
    | > Hi Howelljo,
    | >
    | > Lets see if there is a problem with the game's installer by trying to
    | > install that game on another Windows XP system to see the results.
    | >
    | > -- Hi Jimmy, just loaded the game onto my works's pc which runs XP Professional and it ran beautifully first time, so it's
    obviously something loaded onto my home pc and not the game itself
    | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    | >
    | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    | > _________________________________________________________
    | >
    | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:403BCF2F-9060-461A-85C9-EE71A0DA995D@microsoft.com...
    | > |
    | > |
    | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    | > |
    | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    | > | >
    | > | > There's a couple of additional steps we should explore:
    | > | >
    | > | > 1. In case you have malware on your system which is being detected
    | > | > as a debugger, run a complete AntiVirus and AntiSpyware scan;
    | > | >
    | > | > 2. In case your Profile is corrupt, create a new account on your system
    | > | > with administrator privileges, and try installing PoC using that account.
    | > | >
    | > | > --
    | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    | > | >
    | > |
    | > | Hi Jimmy
    | > |
    | > | Sorry, no good either. I regulalry check my machine for spyware and viruses
    | > | and so neither was found. I did create a new profile and exactly the same
    | > | message came up, so it's not a corrupted profiles. I even made sure that the
    | > | disable debugging script was checked in the advanced section of internet
    | > | explorer tool even though i run Firefox on my system. So its back to you I'm
    | > | afraid
    | > |
    | > | Howelljo
    | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    | > | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    | > | > _________________________________________________________
    | > | >
    | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:F62F4008-F6F5-4EF8-8010-F5B93211F7F1@microsoft.com...
    | > | > |
    | > | > |
    | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    | > | > |
    | > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    | > | > | >
    | > | > | > Did you also use all the methods in this MS KB including Clean Boot?
    | > | > | > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=812759
    | > | > | >
    | > | > | > --
    | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    | > | > |
    | > | > | Hi Jimmy
    | > | > |
    | > | > | Yes I tried everything, there is no amdfix.sys file on my system I even
    | > | > | tried a wildcard search for AMD. The clean boot made no difference and I do
    | > | > | not have the Creative Audigy soundcard installed. I am at a loss at the
    | > | > | moment
    | > | > |
    | > | > | howelljo
    | > | > | >
    | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    | > | > | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
    | > | > | >
    | > | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:85744D49-18FA-48ED-A26E-759F8B238793@microsoft.com...
    | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > Here's what Nick Kritselis from Microsoft suggests ...
    | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > This can occur if you have the /DEBUG switch in your boot.ini file. Follow
    | > | > | > | > these steps to remove the /DEBUG switch:
    | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > 1) Make sure Windows is set to Show All Files. To view protected operating
    | > | > | > | > system files:
    | > | > | > | > Double-click My Computer.
    | > | > | > | > On the Tools menu, click Folder Options.
    | > | > | > | > Click the View tab.
    | > | > | > | > Click the "Show hidden files and folders" circle under "Hidden files and
    | > | > | > | > folders".
    | > | > | > | > Click to clear the "Hide extensions for known file types" check box.
    | > | > | > | > Click to clear the "Hide protected operating system files" check box.
    | > | > | > | > Click Yes when you are prompted to confirm your choice.
    | > | > | > | > Click OK.
    | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > 2) Find boot.ini on C:\
    | > | > | > | > 3) Right-click on the file-icon and choose Properties - uncheck the
    | > | > | > | > Read-Only check box if it is checked, then click OK.
    | > | > | > | > 4) Double-click the boot.ini file, you should see text that looks like this:
    | > | > | > | > [boot loader]
    | > | > | > | > timeout=30
    | > | > | > | > default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
    | > | > | > | > [operating systems]
    | > | > | > | > multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
    | > | > | > | > Professional" /fastdetect /DEBUG
    | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > 5) Remove the "/DEBUG" listing and any other "/" listings after ""Microsoft
    | > | > | > | > Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect" *** WARNING - If you have a multi-boot
    | > | > | > | > option, you may show more than one line under "[Operating systems]". Only
    | > | > | > | > remove text on the line pertaining to the operating system you are booting
    | > | > | > | > to. ***
    | > | > | > | > 6) Save the boot.ini file and close all Windows to desktop.
    | > | > | > | > 7) Reboot system.
    | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > Hope this helps.
    | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > Thanks,
    | > | > | > | > Nick Kritselis [MS]
    | > | > | > | > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
    | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > --
    | > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    | > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    | > | > | > | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    | > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    | > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
    | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    | > news:0971A10C-5995-4F10-AD58-15B8577C8186@microsoft.com...
    | > | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    | > | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > | > That error may occur if one or more of the following conditions are true:
    | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > | > a.. There are programs (such as an antivirus program or debugging software)
    | > | > | > | > | > that run in the background and that interfere with the game startup process.
    | > | > | > | > | > b.. Your sound card or sound card drivers are outdated.
    | > | > | > | > | > c.. The Creative Audigy sound card is installed in your computer. This sound
    | > | > | > | > | > card may conflict with the game startup process.
    | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > | > RESOLUTION
    | > | > | > | > | > To resolve this issue, use the methods presented in this article:
    | > | > | > | > | > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=812759
    | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > | > --
    | > | > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    | > | > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > | > Game FAQs: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=FH;[LN];gms
    | > | > | > | > | > Visit my Zone.com / Gaming Helpsite: http://nibblesnbits.tk or Call / Contact
    | > | > | > | > | > MS Support at: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=sz;en-us;top
    | > | > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    | > | > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
    | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    | > | > news:BBDA51B7-C7F2-49D6-881F-10A8DF20B7C1@microsoft.com...
    | > | > | > | > | > | Hi
    | > | > | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > | > | > | I have purchased the above game and although it installed correctly it wont
    | > | > | > | > | > | start. I get an error message stating that I have a "debugger" running and i
    | > | > | > | > | > | need to close this before the game will run.
    | > | > | > | > | > | Where di i find the program and how do I close it down
    | > | > | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > | > | > | Thanks
    | > | > | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > | > | > | Howelljo
    | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > | > None of the suggestions work.
    | > | > | > | > | My computer is regulaly updated - and my audio drivers are Legacy / Nvidia.
    | > | > | > | > | I have put in a search for the amdfix.sys file and it does not appear to be
    | > | > | > | > | on my system.
    | > | > | > | > | Any other suggestions? as this is not the only game to give me this message
    | > | > | > | > | and it's extremely annoying. The game runs a brief load up screen and then
    | > | > | > | > | givee me the message. I run xp professional and it's asking whether i'm
    | > | > | > | > | running WinIce/SoftIce software.
    | > | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > | > | Thanks
    | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > Sorry, no good - I didn't have the "debug" line written into the system. Next suggestion please
    | > | > | >
    | > | > | >
    | > | > | >
    | > | >
    | > | >
    | > | >
    | >
    | >
    | >
  12. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.games (More info?)

    "Jimmy S." wrote:

    > Hi Howelljo,
    >
    > Here's what we've done to narrow down the culprit:
    >
    > 1. We tried another profile;
    > 2. We tried Safe Mode to rule out any other software (conflicts);
    > 3. We tried the game on another PC to rule out the game itself;
    > 4. We ran a complete virus and spyware scan to rule out malware;
    > 5. We tried all of the MS and "known solutions" for the error ...
    >
    > The next logical conclusion is that your current installation is at fault.
    >
    >
    > How To Repair Windows:
    > Unplug from your Internet connection, and then repair Windows:
    > using this method: http://michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm
    >
    > Afterwards, boot up your system, turn on your XP Internet Firewall,
    > plug back into your Internet connection and install all Critical and
    > Recommended updates from: http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com
    >
    > --
    > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    >
    > Hi Jimmy

    I will try that as soon as I get home. Some-one in the IT dept at work has
    also suggested that I look at either my MS Office configuration, as outlook
    can sometimes run a script process in the background or even the running
    processes on my Nvidia graphics card as sometimes this can run items in the
    background. Are either of these suggestions valid?

    Howelljo
    > Game FAQs: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=FH;[LN];gms
    > Visit my Zone.com / Gaming Helpsite: http://nibblesnbits.tk or Call / Contact
    > MS Support at: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=sz;en-us;top
    > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    > _________________________________________________________
    >
    >
    > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:D6EA6714-3D0A-49C3-8539-D4F7CB958095@microsoft.com...
    > |
    > |
    > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    > |
    > | > Hi Howelljo,
    > | >
    > | > Lets see if there is a problem with the game's installer by trying to
    > | > install that game on another Windows XP system to see the results.
    > | >
    > | > -- Hi Jimmy, just loaded the game onto my works's pc which runs XP Professional and it ran beautifully first time, so it's
    > obviously something loaded onto my home pc and not the game itself
    > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    > | >
    > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    > | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    > | > _________________________________________________________
    > | >
    > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:403BCF2F-9060-461A-85C9-EE71A0DA995D@microsoft.com...
    > | > |
    > | > |
    > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    > | > |
    > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    > | > | >
    > | > | > There's a couple of additional steps we should explore:
    > | > | >
    > | > | > 1. In case you have malware on your system which is being detected
    > | > | > as a debugger, run a complete AntiVirus and AntiSpyware scan;
    > | > | >
    > | > | > 2. In case your Profile is corrupt, create a new account on your system
    > | > | > with administrator privileges, and try installing PoC using that account.
    > | > | >
    > | > | > --
    > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    > | > | >
    > | > |
    > | > | Hi Jimmy
    > | > |
    > | > | Sorry, no good either. I regulalry check my machine for spyware and viruses
    > | > | and so neither was found. I did create a new profile and exactly the same
    > | > | message came up, so it's not a corrupted profiles. I even made sure that the
    > | > | disable debugging script was checked in the advanced section of internet
    > | > | explorer tool even though i run Firefox on my system. So its back to you I'm
    > | > | afraid
    > | > |
    > | > | Howelljo
    > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    > | > | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    > | > | > _________________________________________________________
    > | > | >
    > | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:F62F4008-F6F5-4EF8-8010-F5B93211F7F1@microsoft.com...
    > | > | > |
    > | > | > |
    > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    > | > | > |
    > | > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > Did you also use all the methods in this MS KB including Clean Boot?
    > | > | > | > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=812759
    > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > --
    > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    > | > | > |
    > | > | > | Hi Jimmy
    > | > | > |
    > | > | > | Yes I tried everything, there is no amdfix.sys file on my system I even
    > | > | > | tried a wildcard search for AMD. The clean boot made no difference and I do
    > | > | > | not have the Creative Audigy soundcard installed. I am at a loss at the
    > | > | > | moment
    > | > | > |
    > | > | > | howelljo
    > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    > | > | > | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
    > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > news:85744D49-18FA-48ED-A26E-759F8B238793@microsoft.com...
    > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > Here's what Nick Kritselis from Microsoft suggests ...
    > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > This can occur if you have the /DEBUG switch in your boot.ini file. Follow
    > | > | > | > | > these steps to remove the /DEBUG switch:
    > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > 1) Make sure Windows is set to Show All Files. To view protected operating
    > | > | > | > | > system files:
    > | > | > | > | > Double-click My Computer.
    > | > | > | > | > On the Tools menu, click Folder Options.
    > | > | > | > | > Click the View tab.
    > | > | > | > | > Click the "Show hidden files and folders" circle under "Hidden files and
    > | > | > | > | > folders".
    > | > | > | > | > Click to clear the "Hide extensions for known file types" check box.
    > | > | > | > | > Click to clear the "Hide protected operating system files" check box.
    > | > | > | > | > Click Yes when you are prompted to confirm your choice.
    > | > | > | > | > Click OK.
    > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > 2) Find boot.ini on C:\
    > | > | > | > | > 3) Right-click on the file-icon and choose Properties - uncheck the
    > | > | > | > | > Read-Only check box if it is checked, then click OK.
    > | > | > | > | > 4) Double-click the boot.ini file, you should see text that looks like this:
    > | > | > | > | > [boot loader]
    > | > | > | > | > timeout=30
    > | > | > | > | > default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
    > | > | > | > | > [operating systems]
    > | > | > | > | > multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
    > | > | > | > | > Professional" /fastdetect /DEBUG
    > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > 5) Remove the "/DEBUG" listing and any other "/" listings after ""Microsoft
    > | > | > | > | > Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect" *** WARNING - If you have a multi-boot
    > | > | > | > | > option, you may show more than one line under "[Operating systems]". Only
    > | > | > | > | > remove text on the line pertaining to the operating system you are booting
    > | > | > | > | > to. ***
    > | > | > | > | > 6) Save the boot.ini file and close all Windows to desktop.
    > | > | > | > | > 7) Reboot system.
    > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > Hope this helps.
    > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > Thanks,
    > | > | > | > | > Nick Kritselis [MS]
    > | > | > | > | > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
    > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > --
    > | > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    > | > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    > | > | > | > | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    > | > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    > | > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
    > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > | > news:0971A10C-5995-4F10-AD58-15B8577C8186@microsoft.com...
    > | > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    > | > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > | > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > | > That error may occur if one or more of the following conditions are true:
    > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > | > a.. There are programs (such as an antivirus program or debugging software)
    > | > | > | > | > | > that run in the background and that interfere with the game startup process.
    > | > | > | > | > | > b.. Your sound card or sound card drivers are outdated.
    > | > | > | > | > | > c.. The Creative Audigy sound card is installed in your computer. This sound
    > | > | > | > | > | > card may conflict with the game startup process.
    > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > | > RESOLUTION
    > | > | > | > | > | > To resolve this issue, use the methods presented in this article:
    > | > | > | > | > | > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=812759
    > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > | > --
    > | > | > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    > | > | > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > | > Game FAQs: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=FH;[LN];gms
    > | > | > | > | > | > Visit my Zone.com / Gaming Helpsite: http://nibblesnbits.tk or Call / Contact
    > | > | > | > | > | > MS Support at: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=sz;en-us;top
    > | > | > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    > | > | > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
    > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > | > | > news:BBDA51B7-C7F2-49D6-881F-10A8DF20B7C1@microsoft.com...
    > | > | > | > | > | > | Hi
    > | > | > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > | > | > | > | I have purchased the above game and although it installed correctly it wont
    > | > | > | > | > | > | start. I get an error message stating that I have a "debugger" running and i
    > | > | > | > | > | > | need to close this before the game will run.
    > | > | > | > | > | > | Where di i find the program and how do I close it down
    > | > | > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > | > | > | > | Thanks
    > | > | > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > | > | > | > | Howelljo
    > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > | > None of the suggestions work.
    > | > | > | > | > | My computer is regulaly updated - and my audio drivers are Legacy / Nvidia.
    > | > | > | > | > | I have put in a search for the amdfix.sys file and it does not appear to be
    > | > | > | > | > | on my system.
    > | > | > | > | > | Any other suggestions? as this is not the only game to give me this message
    > | > | > | > | > | and it's extremely annoying. The game runs a brief load up screen and then
    > | > | > | > | > | givee me the message. I run xp professional and it's asking whether i'm
    > | > | > | > | > | running WinIce/SoftIce software.
    > | > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > | > | > | Thanks
    > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > Sorry, no good - I didn't have the "debug" line written into the system. Next suggestion please
    > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | >
    > | > | >
    > | > | >
    > | > | >
    > | >
    > | >
    > | >
    >
    >
    >
  13. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.games (More info?)

    Hi Howelljo,

    Ask your IT contact if those scripts even run in Safe Mode.
    If your contact says they do, then the suggestion is quite valid.
    Tell him everything we've tried so far to resolve this issue.

    --
    Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

    Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    _________________________________________________________

    "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:FA572D33-FBDD-4465-A8EB-0AC884302CA5@microsoft.com...
    |
    |
    | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    |
    | > Hi Howelljo,
    | >
    | > Here's what we've done to narrow down the culprit:
    | >
    | > 1. We tried another profile;
    | > 2. We tried Safe Mode to rule out any other software (conflicts);
    | > 3. We tried the game on another PC to rule out the game itself;
    | > 4. We ran a complete virus and spyware scan to rule out malware;
    | > 5. We tried all of the MS and "known solutions" for the error ...
    | >
    | > The next logical conclusion is that your current installation is at fault.
    | >
    | >
    | > How To Repair Windows:
    | > Unplug from your Internet connection, and then repair Windows:
    | > using this method: http://michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm
    | >
    | > Afterwards, boot up your system, turn on your XP Internet Firewall,
    | > plug back into your Internet connection and install all Critical and
    | > Recommended updates from: http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com
    | >
    | > --
    | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    | >
    | > Hi Jimmy
    |
    | I will try that as soon as I get home. Some-one in the IT dept at work has
    | also suggested that I look at either my MS Office configuration, as outlook
    | can sometimes run a script process in the background or even the running
    | processes on my Nvidia graphics card as sometimes this can run items in the
    | background. Are either of these suggestions valid?
    |
    | Howelljo
    | > Game FAQs: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=FH;[LN];gms
    | > Visit my Zone.com / Gaming Helpsite: http://nibblesnbits.tk or Call / Contact
    | > MS Support at: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=sz;en-us;top
    | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    | > _________________________________________________________
    | >
    | >
    | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:D6EA6714-3D0A-49C3-8539-D4F7CB958095@microsoft.com...
    | > |
    | > |
    | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    | > |
    | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    | > | >
    | > | > Lets see if there is a problem with the game's installer by trying to
    | > | > install that game on another Windows XP system to see the results.
    | > | >
    | > | > -- Hi Jimmy, just loaded the game onto my works's pc which runs XP Professional and it ran beautifully first time, so it's
    | > obviously something loaded onto my home pc and not the game itself
    | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    | > | >
    | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    | > | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    | > | > _________________________________________________________
    | > | >
    | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:403BCF2F-9060-461A-85C9-EE71A0DA995D@microsoft.com...
    | > | > |
    | > | > |
    | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    | > | > |
    | > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    | > | > | >
    | > | > | > There's a couple of additional steps we should explore:
    | > | > | >
    | > | > | > 1. In case you have malware on your system which is being detected
    | > | > | > as a debugger, run a complete AntiVirus and AntiSpyware scan;
    | > | > | >
    | > | > | > 2. In case your Profile is corrupt, create a new account on your system
    | > | > | > with administrator privileges, and try installing PoC using that account.
    | > | > | >
    | > | > | > --
    | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    | > | > | >
    | > | > |
    | > | > | Hi Jimmy
    | > | > |
    | > | > | Sorry, no good either. I regulalry check my machine for spyware and viruses
    | > | > | and so neither was found. I did create a new profile and exactly the same
    | > | > | message came up, so it's not a corrupted profiles. I even made sure that the
    | > | > | disable debugging script was checked in the advanced section of internet
    | > | > | explorer tool even though i run Firefox on my system. So its back to you I'm
    | > | > | afraid
    | > | > |
    | > | > | Howelljo
    | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    | > | > | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
    | > | > | >
    | > | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:F62F4008-F6F5-4EF8-8010-F5B93211F7F1@microsoft.com...
    | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > Did you also use all the methods in this MS KB including Clean Boot?
    | > | > | > | > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=812759
    | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > --
    | > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    | > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > | Hi Jimmy
    | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > | Yes I tried everything, there is no amdfix.sys file on my system I even
    | > | > | > | tried a wildcard search for AMD. The clean boot made no difference and I do
    | > | > | > | not have the Creative Audigy soundcard installed. I am at a loss at the
    | > | > | > | moment
    | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > | howelljo
    | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    | > | > | > | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    | > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    | > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
    | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    | > news:85744D49-18FA-48ED-A26E-759F8B238793@microsoft.com...
    | > | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    | > | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > | > Here's what Nick Kritselis from Microsoft suggests ...
    | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > | > This can occur if you have the /DEBUG switch in your boot.ini file. Follow
    | > | > | > | > | > these steps to remove the /DEBUG switch:
    | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > | > 1) Make sure Windows is set to Show All Files. To view protected operating
    | > | > | > | > | > system files:
    | > | > | > | > | > Double-click My Computer.
    | > | > | > | > | > On the Tools menu, click Folder Options.
    | > | > | > | > | > Click the View tab.
    | > | > | > | > | > Click the "Show hidden files and folders" circle under "Hidden files and
    | > | > | > | > | > folders".
    | > | > | > | > | > Click to clear the "Hide extensions for known file types" check box.
    | > | > | > | > | > Click to clear the "Hide protected operating system files" check box.
    | > | > | > | > | > Click Yes when you are prompted to confirm your choice.
    | > | > | > | > | > Click OK.
    | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > | > 2) Find boot.ini on C:\
    | > | > | > | > | > 3) Right-click on the file-icon and choose Properties - uncheck the
    | > | > | > | > | > Read-Only check box if it is checked, then click OK.
    | > | > | > | > | > 4) Double-click the boot.ini file, you should see text that looks like this:
    | > | > | > | > | > [boot loader]
    | > | > | > | > | > timeout=30
    | > | > | > | > | > default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
    | > | > | > | > | > [operating systems]
    | > | > | > | > | > multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
    | > | > | > | > | > Professional" /fastdetect /DEBUG
    | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > | > 5) Remove the "/DEBUG" listing and any other "/" listings after ""Microsoft
    | > | > | > | > | > Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect" *** WARNING - If you have a multi-boot
    | > | > | > | > | > option, you may show more than one line under "[Operating systems]". Only
    | > | > | > | > | > remove text on the line pertaining to the operating system you are booting
    | > | > | > | > | > to. ***
    | > | > | > | > | > 6) Save the boot.ini file and close all Windows to desktop.
    | > | > | > | > | > 7) Reboot system.
    | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > | > Hope this helps.
    | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > | > Thanks,
    | > | > | > | > | > Nick Kritselis [MS]
    | > | > | > | > | > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
    | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > | > --
    | > | > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    | > | > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    | > | > | > | > | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    | > | > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    | > | > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
    | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    | > | > news:0971A10C-5995-4F10-AD58-15B8577C8186@microsoft.com...
    | > | > | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    | > | > | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > | > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > | > | > That error may occur if one or more of the following conditions are true:
    | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > | > | > a.. There are programs (such as an antivirus program or debugging software)
    | > | > | > | > | > | > that run in the background and that interfere with the game startup process.
    | > | > | > | > | > | > b.. Your sound card or sound card drivers are outdated.
    | > | > | > | > | > | > c.. The Creative Audigy sound card is installed in your computer. This sound
    | > | > | > | > | > | > card may conflict with the game startup process.
    | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > | > | > RESOLUTION
    | > | > | > | > | > | > To resolve this issue, use the methods presented in this article:
    | > | > | > | > | > | > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=812759
    | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > | > | > --
    | > | > | > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    | > | > | > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > | > | > Game FAQs: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=FH;[LN];gms
    | > | > | > | > | > | > Visit my Zone.com / Gaming Helpsite: http://nibblesnbits.tk or Call / Contact
    | > | > | > | > | > | > MS Support at: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=sz;en-us;top
    | > | > | > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    | > | > | > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
    | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    | > | > | > news:BBDA51B7-C7F2-49D6-881F-10A8DF20B7C1@microsoft.com...
    | > | > | > | > | > | > | Hi
    | > | > | > | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > | > | > | > | I have purchased the above game and although it installed correctly it wont
    | > | > | > | > | > | > | start. I get an error message stating that I have a "debugger" running and i
    | > | > | > | > | > | > | need to close this before the game will run.
    | > | > | > | > | > | > | Where di i find the program and how do I close it down
    | > | > | > | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > | > | > | > | Thanks
    | > | > | > | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > | > | > | > | Howelljo
    | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > | > | > None of the suggestions work.
    | > | > | > | > | > | My computer is regulaly updated - and my audio drivers are Legacy / Nvidia.
    | > | > | > | > | > | I have put in a search for the amdfix.sys file and it does not appear to be
    | > | > | > | > | > | on my system.
    | > | > | > | > | > | Any other suggestions? as this is not the only game to give me this message
    | > | > | > | > | > | and it's extremely annoying. The game runs a brief load up screen and then
    | > | > | > | > | > | givee me the message. I run xp professional and it's asking whether i'm
    | > | > | > | > | > | running WinIce/SoftIce software.
    | > | > | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > | > | > | Thanks
    | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > | > Sorry, no good - I didn't have the "debug" line written into the system. Next suggestion please
    | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | >
    | > | > | >
    | > | > | >
    | > | >
    | > | >
    | > | >
    | >
    | >
    | >
  14. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.games (More info?)

    "Jimmy S." wrote:

    > Hi Howelljo,
    >
    > Ask your IT contact if those scripts even run in Safe Mode.
    > If your contact says they do, then the suggestion is quite valid.
    > Tell him everything we've tried so far to resolve this issue.
    >
    > --
    > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

    Jimmy

    I tried all this and it still didn't work. I also went to re-install windows
    and I found I have another slight problem. The advice sheet you supplied told
    me to go to the CMD prompt which I did, unfortunately I don't get the script
    i shoud do. It comes up with Family / Documents and Settings as it tells me
    that C:\windows|system32 is not a valid file system.
    I haven't gone any further with this yet as i need to know how to get around
    this part now
    >
    > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    > _________________________________________________________
    >
    > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:FA572D33-FBDD-4465-A8EB-0AC884302CA5@microsoft.com...
    > |
    > |
    > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    > |
    > | > Hi Howelljo,
    > | >
    > | > Here's what we've done to narrow down the culprit:
    > | >
    > | > 1. We tried another profile;
    > | > 2. We tried Safe Mode to rule out any other software (conflicts);
    > | > 3. We tried the game on another PC to rule out the game itself;
    > | > 4. We ran a complete virus and spyware scan to rule out malware;
    > | > 5. We tried all of the MS and "known solutions" for the error ...
    > | >
    > | > The next logical conclusion is that your current installation is at fault.
    > | >
    > | >
    > | > How To Repair Windows:
    > | > Unplug from your Internet connection, and then repair Windows:
    > | > using this method: http://michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm
    > | >
    > | > Afterwards, boot up your system, turn on your XP Internet Firewall,
    > | > plug back into your Internet connection and install all Critical and
    > | > Recommended updates from: http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com
    > | >
    > | > --
    > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    > | >
    > | > Hi Jimmy
    > |
    > | I will try that as soon as I get home. Some-one in the IT dept at work has
    > | also suggested that I look at either my MS Office configuration, as outlook
    > | can sometimes run a script process in the background or even the running
    > | processes on my Nvidia graphics card as sometimes this can run items in the
    > | background. Are either of these suggestions valid?
    > |
    > | Howelljo
    > | > Game FAQs: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=FH;[LN];gms
    > | > Visit my Zone.com / Gaming Helpsite: http://nibblesnbits.tk or Call / Contact
    > | > MS Support at: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=sz;en-us;top
    > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    > | > _________________________________________________________
    > | >
    > | >
    > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:D6EA6714-3D0A-49C3-8539-D4F7CB958095@microsoft.com...
    > | > |
    > | > |
    > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    > | > |
    > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    > | > | >
    > | > | > Lets see if there is a problem with the game's installer by trying to
    > | > | > install that game on another Windows XP system to see the results.
    > | > | >
    > | > | > -- Hi Jimmy, just loaded the game onto my works's pc which runs XP Professional and it ran beautifully first time, so it's
    > | > obviously something loaded onto my home pc and not the game itself
    > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    > | > | >
    > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    > | > | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    > | > | > _________________________________________________________
    > | > | >
    > | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:403BCF2F-9060-461A-85C9-EE71A0DA995D@microsoft.com...
    > | > | > |
    > | > | > |
    > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    > | > | > |
    > | > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > There's a couple of additional steps we should explore:
    > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > 1. In case you have malware on your system which is being detected
    > | > | > | > as a debugger, run a complete AntiVirus and AntiSpyware scan;
    > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > 2. In case your Profile is corrupt, create a new account on your system
    > | > | > | > with administrator privileges, and try installing PoC using that account.
    > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > --
    > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    > | > | > | >
    > | > | > |
    > | > | > | Hi Jimmy
    > | > | > |
    > | > | > | Sorry, no good either. I regulalry check my machine for spyware and viruses
    > | > | > | and so neither was found. I did create a new profile and exactly the same
    > | > | > | message came up, so it's not a corrupted profiles. I even made sure that the
    > | > | > | disable debugging script was checked in the advanced section of internet
    > | > | > | explorer tool even though i run Firefox on my system. So its back to you I'm
    > | > | > | afraid
    > | > | > |
    > | > | > | Howelljo
    > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    > | > | > | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
    > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > news:F62F4008-F6F5-4EF8-8010-F5B93211F7F1@microsoft.com...
    > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > Did you also use all the methods in this MS KB including Clean Boot?
    > | > | > | > | > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=812759
    > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > --
    > | > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    > | > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > | > | Hi Jimmy
    > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > | > | Yes I tried everything, there is no amdfix.sys file on my system I even
    > | > | > | > | tried a wildcard search for AMD. The clean boot made no difference and I do
    > | > | > | > | not have the Creative Audigy soundcard installed. I am at a loss at the
    > | > | > | > | moment
    > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > | > | howelljo
    > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    > | > | > | > | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    > | > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    > | > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
    > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > | > news:85744D49-18FA-48ED-A26E-759F8B238793@microsoft.com...
    > | > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    > | > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > | > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > | > Here's what Nick Kritselis from Microsoft suggests ...
    > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > | > This can occur if you have the /DEBUG switch in your boot.ini file. Follow
    > | > | > | > | > | > these steps to remove the /DEBUG switch:
    > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > | > 1) Make sure Windows is set to Show All Files. To view protected operating
    > | > | > | > | > | > system files:
    > | > | > | > | > | > Double-click My Computer.
    > | > | > | > | > | > On the Tools menu, click Folder Options.
    > | > | > | > | > | > Click the View tab.
    > | > | > | > | > | > Click the "Show hidden files and folders" circle under "Hidden files and
    > | > | > | > | > | > folders".
    > | > | > | > | > | > Click to clear the "Hide extensions for known file types" check box.
    > | > | > | > | > | > Click to clear the "Hide protected operating system files" check box.
    > | > | > | > | > | > Click Yes when you are prompted to confirm your choice.
    > | > | > | > | > | > Click OK.
    > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > | > 2) Find boot.ini on C:\
    > | > | > | > | > | > 3) Right-click on the file-icon and choose Properties - uncheck the
    > | > | > | > | > | > Read-Only check box if it is checked, then click OK.
    > | > | > | > | > | > 4) Double-click the boot.ini file, you should see text that looks like this:
    > | > | > | > | > | > [boot loader]
    > | > | > | > | > | > timeout=30
    > | > | > | > | > | > default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
    > | > | > | > | > | > [operating systems]
    > | > | > | > | > | > multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
    > | > | > | > | > | > Professional" /fastdetect /DEBUG
    > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > | > 5) Remove the "/DEBUG" listing and any other "/" listings after ""Microsoft
    > | > | > | > | > | > Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect" *** WARNING - If you have a multi-boot
    > | > | > | > | > | > option, you may show more than one line under "[Operating systems]". Only
    > | > | > | > | > | > remove text on the line pertaining to the operating system you are booting
    > | > | > | > | > | > to. ***
    > | > | > | > | > | > 6) Save the boot.ini file and close all Windows to desktop.
    > | > | > | > | > | > 7) Reboot system.
    > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > | > Hope this helps.
    > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > | > Thanks,
    > | > | > | > | > | > Nick Kritselis [MS]
    > | > | > | > | > | > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
    > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > | > --
    > | > | > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    > | > | > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    > | > | > | > | > | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    > | > | > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    > | > | > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
    > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > | > | > news:0971A10C-5995-4F10-AD58-15B8577C8186@microsoft.com...
    > | > | > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > | > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    > | > | > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > That error may occur if one or more of the following conditions are true:
    > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > a.. There are programs (such as an antivirus program or debugging software)
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > that run in the background and that interfere with the game startup process.
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > b.. Your sound card or sound card drivers are outdated.
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > c.. The Creative Audigy sound card is installed in your computer. This sound
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > card may conflict with the game startup process.
    > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > RESOLUTION
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > To resolve this issue, use the methods presented in this article:
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=812759
    > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > --
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > Game FAQs: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=FH;[LN];gms
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > Visit my Zone.com / Gaming Helpsite: http://nibblesnbits.tk or Call / Contact
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > MS Support at: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=sz;en-us;top
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
    > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > | > | > | > news:BBDA51B7-C7F2-49D6-881F-10A8DF20B7C1@microsoft.com...
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > | Hi
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > | I have purchased the above game and although it installed correctly it wont
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > | start. I get an error message stating that I have a "debugger" running and i
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > | need to close this before the game will run.
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > | Where di i find the program and how do I close it down
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > | Thanks
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > | Howelljo
    > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > None of the suggestions work.
    > | > | > | > | > | > | My computer is regulaly updated - and my audio drivers are Legacy / Nvidia.
    > | > | > | > | > | > | I have put in a search for the amdfix.sys file and it does not appear to be
    > | > | > | > | > | > | on my system.
    > | > | > | > | > | > | Any other suggestions? as this is not the only game to give me this message
    > | > | > | > | > | > | and it's extremely annoying. The game runs a brief load up screen and then
    > | > | > | > | > | > | givee me the message. I run xp professional and it's asking whether i'm
    > | > | > | > | > | > | running WinIce/SoftIce software.
    > | > | > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > | > | > | > | Thanks
    > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > | > Sorry, no good - I didn't have the "debug" line written into the system. Next suggestion please
    > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | >
    > | > | >
    > | > | >
    > | > | >
    > | >
    > | >
    > | >
    >
    >
    >
  15. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.games (More info?)

    Hi Howelljo,

    Can you perform the steps in this part of the article?
    http://michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm#RI

    --
    Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

    Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    _________________________________________________________

    "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:4018E9AE-4033-4398-B8FE-2510F212C5BA@microsoft.com...
    |
    |
    | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    |
    | > Hi Howelljo,
    | >
    | > Ask your IT contact if those scripts even run in Safe Mode.
    | > If your contact says they do, then the suggestion is quite valid.
    | > Tell him everything we've tried so far to resolve this issue.
    | >
    | > --
    | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    |
    | Jimmy
    |
    | I tried all this and it still didn't work. I also went to re-install windows
    | and I found I have another slight problem. The advice sheet you supplied told
    | me to go to the CMD prompt which I did, unfortunately I don't get the script
    | i shoud do. It comes up with Family / Documents and Settings as it tells me
    | that C:\windows|system32 is not a valid file system.
    | I haven't gone any further with this yet as i need to know how to get around
    | this part now
    | >
    | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    | > _________________________________________________________
    | >
    | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:FA572D33-FBDD-4465-A8EB-0AC884302CA5@microsoft.com...
    | > |
    | > |
    | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    | > |
    | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    | > | >
    | > | > Here's what we've done to narrow down the culprit:
    | > | >
    | > | > 1. We tried another profile;
    | > | > 2. We tried Safe Mode to rule out any other software (conflicts);
    | > | > 3. We tried the game on another PC to rule out the game itself;
    | > | > 4. We ran a complete virus and spyware scan to rule out malware;
    | > | > 5. We tried all of the MS and "known solutions" for the error ...
    | > | >
    | > | > The next logical conclusion is that your current installation is at fault.
    | > | >
    | > | >
    | > | > How To Repair Windows:
    | > | > Unplug from your Internet connection, and then repair Windows:
    | > | > using this method: http://michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm
    | > | >
    | > | > Afterwards, boot up your system, turn on your XP Internet Firewall,
    | > | > plug back into your Internet connection and install all Critical and
    | > | > Recommended updates from: http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com
    | > | >
    | > | > --
    | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    | > | >
    | > | > Hi Jimmy
    | > |
    | > | I will try that as soon as I get home. Some-one in the IT dept at work has
    | > | also suggested that I look at either my MS Office configuration, as outlook
    | > | can sometimes run a script process in the background or even the running
    | > | processes on my Nvidia graphics card as sometimes this can run items in the
    | > | background. Are either of these suggestions valid?
    | > |
    | > | Howelljo
    | > | > Game FAQs: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=FH;[LN];gms
    | > | > Visit my Zone.com / Gaming Helpsite: http://nibblesnbits.tk or Call / Contact
    | > | > MS Support at: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=sz;en-us;top
    | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    | > | > _________________________________________________________
    | > | >
    | > | >
    | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:D6EA6714-3D0A-49C3-8539-D4F7CB958095@microsoft.com...
    | > | > |
    | > | > |
    | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    | > | > |
    | > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    | > | > | >
    | > | > | > Lets see if there is a problem with the game's installer by trying to
    | > | > | > install that game on another Windows XP system to see the results.
    | > | > | >
    | > | > | > -- Hi Jimmy, just loaded the game onto my works's pc which runs XP Professional and it ran beautifully first time, so
    it's
    | > | > obviously something loaded onto my home pc and not the game itself
    | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    | > | > | >
    | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    | > | > | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
    | > | > | >
    | > | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:403BCF2F-9060-461A-85C9-EE71A0DA995D@microsoft.com...
    | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > There's a couple of additional steps we should explore:
    | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > 1. In case you have malware on your system which is being detected
    | > | > | > | > as a debugger, run a complete AntiVirus and AntiSpyware scan;
    | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > 2. In case your Profile is corrupt, create a new account on your system
    | > | > | > | > with administrator privileges, and try installing PoC using that account.
    | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > --
    | > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    | > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > | Hi Jimmy
    | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > | Sorry, no good either. I regulalry check my machine for spyware and viruses
    | > | > | > | and so neither was found. I did create a new profile and exactly the same
    | > | > | > | message came up, so it's not a corrupted profiles. I even made sure that the
    | > | > | > | disable debugging script was checked in the advanced section of internet
    | > | > | > | explorer tool even though i run Firefox on my system. So its back to you I'm
    | > | > | > | afraid
    | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > | Howelljo
    | > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    | > | > | > | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    | > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    | > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
    | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    | > news:F62F4008-F6F5-4EF8-8010-F5B93211F7F1@microsoft.com...
    | > | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    | > | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > | > Did you also use all the methods in this MS KB including Clean Boot?
    | > | > | > | > | > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=812759
    | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > | > --
    | > | > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    | > | > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    | > | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > | > | Hi Jimmy
    | > | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > | > | Yes I tried everything, there is no amdfix.sys file on my system I even
    | > | > | > | > | tried a wildcard search for AMD. The clean boot made no difference and I do
    | > | > | > | > | not have the Creative Audigy soundcard installed. I am at a loss at the
    | > | > | > | > | moment
    | > | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > | > | howelljo
    | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    | > | > | > | > | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    | > | > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    | > | > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
    | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    | > | > news:85744D49-18FA-48ED-A26E-759F8B238793@microsoft.com...
    | > | > | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    | > | > | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > | > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > | > | > Here's what Nick Kritselis from Microsoft suggests ...
    | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > | > | > This can occur if you have the /DEBUG switch in your boot.ini file. Follow
    | > | > | > | > | > | > these steps to remove the /DEBUG switch:
    | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > | > | > 1) Make sure Windows is set to Show All Files. To view protected operating
    | > | > | > | > | > | > system files:
    | > | > | > | > | > | > Double-click My Computer.
    | > | > | > | > | > | > On the Tools menu, click Folder Options.
    | > | > | > | > | > | > Click the View tab.
    | > | > | > | > | > | > Click the "Show hidden files and folders" circle under "Hidden files and
    | > | > | > | > | > | > folders".
    | > | > | > | > | > | > Click to clear the "Hide extensions for known file types" check box.
    | > | > | > | > | > | > Click to clear the "Hide protected operating system files" check box.
    | > | > | > | > | > | > Click Yes when you are prompted to confirm your choice.
    | > | > | > | > | > | > Click OK.
    | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > | > | > 2) Find boot.ini on C:\
    | > | > | > | > | > | > 3) Right-click on the file-icon and choose Properties - uncheck the
    | > | > | > | > | > | > Read-Only check box if it is checked, then click OK.
    | > | > | > | > | > | > 4) Double-click the boot.ini file, you should see text that looks like this:
    | > | > | > | > | > | > [boot loader]
    | > | > | > | > | > | > timeout=30
    | > | > | > | > | > | > default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
    | > | > | > | > | > | > [operating systems]
    | > | > | > | > | > | > multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
    | > | > | > | > | > | > Professional" /fastdetect /DEBUG
    | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > | > | > 5) Remove the "/DEBUG" listing and any other "/" listings after ""Microsoft
    | > | > | > | > | > | > Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect" *** WARNING - If you have a multi-boot
    | > | > | > | > | > | > option, you may show more than one line under "[Operating systems]". Only
    | > | > | > | > | > | > remove text on the line pertaining to the operating system you are booting
    | > | > | > | > | > | > to. ***
    | > | > | > | > | > | > 6) Save the boot.ini file and close all Windows to desktop.
    | > | > | > | > | > | > 7) Reboot system.
    | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > | > | > Hope this helps.
    | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > | > | > Thanks,
    | > | > | > | > | > | > Nick Kritselis [MS]
    | > | > | > | > | > | > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
    | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > | > | > --
    | > | > | > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    | > | > | > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    | > | > | > | > | > | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    | > | > | > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    | > | > | > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
    | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    | > | > | > news:0971A10C-5995-4F10-AD58-15B8577C8186@microsoft.com...
    | > | > | > | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > | > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    | > | > | > | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > | > | > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    | > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > | > | > | > That error may occur if one or more of the following conditions are true:
    | > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > | > | > | > a.. There are programs (such as an antivirus program or debugging software)
    | > | > | > | > | > | > | > that run in the background and that interfere with the game startup process.
    | > | > | > | > | > | > | > b.. Your sound card or sound card drivers are outdated.
    | > | > | > | > | > | > | > c.. The Creative Audigy sound card is installed in your computer. This sound
    | > | > | > | > | > | > | > card may conflict with the game startup process.
    | > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > | > | > | > RESOLUTION
    | > | > | > | > | > | > | > To resolve this issue, use the methods presented in this article:
    | > | > | > | > | > | > | > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=812759
    | > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > | > | > | > --
    | > | > | > | > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    | > | > | > | > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    | > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > | > | > | > Game FAQs: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=FH;[LN];gms
    | > | > | > | > | > | > | > Visit my Zone.com / Gaming Helpsite: http://nibblesnbits.tk or Call / Contact
    | > | > | > | > | > | > | > MS Support at: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=sz;en-us;top
    | > | > | > | > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    | > | > | > | > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
    | > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > | > | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    | > | > | > | > news:BBDA51B7-C7F2-49D6-881F-10A8DF20B7C1@microsoft.com...
    | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | Hi
    | > | > | > | > | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | I have purchased the above game and although it installed correctly it wont
    | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | start. I get an error message stating that I have a "debugger" running and i
    | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | need to close this before the game will run.
    | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | Where di i find the program and how do I close it down
    | > | > | > | > | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | Thanks
    | > | > | > | > | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | Howelljo
    | > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > | > | > | > None of the suggestions work.
    | > | > | > | > | > | > | My computer is regulaly updated - and my audio drivers are Legacy / Nvidia.
    | > | > | > | > | > | > | I have put in a search for the amdfix.sys file and it does not appear to be
    | > | > | > | > | > | > | on my system.
    | > | > | > | > | > | > | Any other suggestions? as this is not the only game to give me this message
    | > | > | > | > | > | > | and it's extremely annoying. The game runs a brief load up screen and then
    | > | > | > | > | > | > | givee me the message. I run xp professional and it's asking whether i'm
    | > | > | > | > | > | > | running WinIce/SoftIce software.
    | > | > | > | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > | > | > | > | Thanks
    | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > | > | > Sorry, no good - I didn't have the "debug" line written into the system. Next suggestion please
    | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | >
    | > | > | >
    | > | > | >
    | > | >
    | > | >
    | > | >
    | >
    | >
    | >
  16. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.games (More info?)

    I haven't tried it yet, will do this evening when i get home, should be no
    problem at as i seem to remember i get this option when i've looked at the
    disc in the past

    Howelljo

    "Jimmy S." wrote:

    > Hi Howelljo,
    >
    > Can you perform the steps in this part of the article?
    > http://michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm#RI
    >
    > --
    > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    >
    > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    > _________________________________________________________
    >
    > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:4018E9AE-4033-4398-B8FE-2510F212C5BA@microsoft.com...
    > |
    > |
    > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    > |
    > | > Hi Howelljo,
    > | >
    > | > Ask your IT contact if those scripts even run in Safe Mode.
    > | > If your contact says they do, then the suggestion is quite valid.
    > | > Tell him everything we've tried so far to resolve this issue.
    > | >
    > | > --
    > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    > |
    > | Jimmy
    > |
    > | I tried all this and it still didn't work. I also went to re-install windows
    > | and I found I have another slight problem. The advice sheet you supplied told
    > | me to go to the CMD prompt which I did, unfortunately I don't get the script
    > | i shoud do. It comes up with Family / Documents and Settings as it tells me
    > | that C:\windows|system32 is not a valid file system.
    > | I haven't gone any further with this yet as i need to know how to get around
    > | this part now
    > | >
    > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    > | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    > | > _________________________________________________________
    > | >
    > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:FA572D33-FBDD-4465-A8EB-0AC884302CA5@microsoft.com...
    > | > |
    > | > |
    > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    > | > |
    > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    > | > | >
    > | > | > Here's what we've done to narrow down the culprit:
    > | > | >
    > | > | > 1. We tried another profile;
    > | > | > 2. We tried Safe Mode to rule out any other software (conflicts);
    > | > | > 3. We tried the game on another PC to rule out the game itself;
    > | > | > 4. We ran a complete virus and spyware scan to rule out malware;
    > | > | > 5. We tried all of the MS and "known solutions" for the error ...
    > | > | >
    > | > | > The next logical conclusion is that your current installation is at fault.
    > | > | >
    > | > | >
    > | > | > How To Repair Windows:
    > | > | > Unplug from your Internet connection, and then repair Windows:
    > | > | > using this method: http://michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm
    > | > | >
    > | > | > Afterwards, boot up your system, turn on your XP Internet Firewall,
    > | > | > plug back into your Internet connection and install all Critical and
    > | > | > Recommended updates from: http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com
    > | > | >
    > | > | > --
    > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    > | > | >
    > | > | > Hi Jimmy
    > | > |
    > | > | I will try that as soon as I get home. Some-one in the IT dept at work has
    > | > | also suggested that I look at either my MS Office configuration, as outlook
    > | > | can sometimes run a script process in the background or even the running
    > | > | processes on my Nvidia graphics card as sometimes this can run items in the
    > | > | background. Are either of these suggestions valid?
    > | > |
    > | > | Howelljo
    > | > | > Game FAQs: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=FH;[LN];gms
    > | > | > Visit my Zone.com / Gaming Helpsite: http://nibblesnbits.tk or Call / Contact
    > | > | > MS Support at: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=sz;en-us;top
    > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    > | > | > _________________________________________________________
    > | > | >
    > | > | >
    > | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:D6EA6714-3D0A-49C3-8539-D4F7CB958095@microsoft.com...
    > | > | > |
    > | > | > |
    > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    > | > | > |
    > | > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > Lets see if there is a problem with the game's installer by trying to
    > | > | > | > install that game on another Windows XP system to see the results.
    > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > -- Hi Jimmy, just loaded the game onto my works's pc which runs XP Professional and it ran beautifully first time, so
    > it's
    > | > | > obviously something loaded onto my home pc and not the game itself
    > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    > | > | > | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
    > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > news:403BCF2F-9060-461A-85C9-EE71A0DA995D@microsoft.com...
    > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > There's a couple of additional steps we should explore:
    > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > 1. In case you have malware on your system which is being detected
    > | > | > | > | > as a debugger, run a complete AntiVirus and AntiSpyware scan;
    > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > 2. In case your Profile is corrupt, create a new account on your system
    > | > | > | > | > with administrator privileges, and try installing PoC using that account.
    > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > --
    > | > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    > | > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > | > | Hi Jimmy
    > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > | > | Sorry, no good either. I regulalry check my machine for spyware and viruses
    > | > | > | > | and so neither was found. I did create a new profile and exactly the same
    > | > | > | > | message came up, so it's not a corrupted profiles. I even made sure that the
    > | > | > | > | disable debugging script was checked in the advanced section of internet
    > | > | > | > | explorer tool even though i run Firefox on my system. So its back to you I'm
    > | > | > | > | afraid
    > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > | > | Howelljo
    > | > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    > | > | > | > | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    > | > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    > | > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
    > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > | > news:F62F4008-F6F5-4EF8-8010-F5B93211F7F1@microsoft.com...
    > | > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    > | > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > | > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > | > Did you also use all the methods in this MS KB including Clean Boot?
    > | > | > | > | > | > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=812759
    > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > | > --
    > | > | > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    > | > | > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    > | > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > | > | > | Hi Jimmy
    > | > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > | > | > | Yes I tried everything, there is no amdfix.sys file on my system I even
    > | > | > | > | > | tried a wildcard search for AMD. The clean boot made no difference and I do
    > | > | > | > | > | not have the Creative Audigy soundcard installed. I am at a loss at the
    > | > | > | > | > | moment
    > | > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > | > | > | howelljo
    > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    > | > | > | > | > | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    > | > | > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    > | > | > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
    > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > | > | > news:85744D49-18FA-48ED-A26E-759F8B238793@microsoft.com...
    > | > | > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > | > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    > | > | > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > Here's what Nick Kritselis from Microsoft suggests ...
    > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > This can occur if you have the /DEBUG switch in your boot.ini file. Follow
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > these steps to remove the /DEBUG switch:
    > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > 1) Make sure Windows is set to Show All Files. To view protected operating
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > system files:
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > Double-click My Computer.
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > On the Tools menu, click Folder Options.
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > Click the View tab.
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > Click the "Show hidden files and folders" circle under "Hidden files and
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > folders".
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > Click to clear the "Hide extensions for known file types" check box.
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > Click to clear the "Hide protected operating system files" check box.
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > Click Yes when you are prompted to confirm your choice.
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > Click OK.
    > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > 2) Find boot.ini on C:\
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > 3) Right-click on the file-icon and choose Properties - uncheck the
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > Read-Only check box if it is checked, then click OK.
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > 4) Double-click the boot.ini file, you should see text that looks like this:
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > [boot loader]
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > timeout=30
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > [operating systems]
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > Professional" /fastdetect /DEBUG
    > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > 5) Remove the "/DEBUG" listing and any other "/" listings after ""Microsoft
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect" *** WARNING - If you have a multi-boot
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > option, you may show more than one line under "[Operating systems]". Only
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > remove text on the line pertaining to the operating system you are booting
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > to. ***
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > 6) Save the boot.ini file and close all Windows to desktop.
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > 7) Reboot system.
    > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > Hope this helps.
    > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > Thanks,
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > Nick Kritselis [MS]
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
    > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > --
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
    > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > | > | > | > news:0971A10C-5995-4F10-AD58-15B8577C8186@microsoft.com...
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > That error may occur if one or more of the following conditions are true:
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > a.. There are programs (such as an antivirus program or debugging software)
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > that run in the background and that interfere with the game startup process.
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > b.. Your sound card or sound card drivers are outdated.
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > c.. The Creative Audigy sound card is installed in your computer. This sound
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > card may conflict with the game startup process.
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > RESOLUTION
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > To resolve this issue, use the methods presented in this article:
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=812759
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > --
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > Game FAQs: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=FH;[LN];gms
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > Visit my Zone.com / Gaming Helpsite: http://nibblesnbits.tk or Call / Contact
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > MS Support at: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=sz;en-us;top
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > | > | > | > | > news:BBDA51B7-C7F2-49D6-881F-10A8DF20B7C1@microsoft.com...
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | Hi
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | I have purchased the above game and although it installed correctly it wont
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | start. I get an error message stating that I have a "debugger" running and i
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | need to close this before the game will run.
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | Where di i find the program and how do I close it down
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | Thanks
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | Howelljo
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > None of the suggestions work.
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > | My computer is regulaly updated - and my audio drivers are Legacy / Nvidia.
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > | I have put in a search for the amdfix.sys file and it does not appear to be
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > | on my system.
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > | Any other suggestions? as this is not the only game to give me this message
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > | and it's extremely annoying. The game runs a brief load up screen and then
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > | givee me the message. I run xp professional and it's asking whether i'm
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > | running WinIce/SoftIce software.
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > | Thanks
    > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > | > | > Sorry, no good - I didn't have the "debug" line written into the system. Next suggestion please
    > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > | > | >
  17. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.games (More info?)

    "Howelljo" wrote:

    > I haven't tried it yet, will do this evening when i get home, should be no
    > problem at as i seem to remember i get this option when i've looked at the
    > disc in the past
    >
    > Howelljo
    >
    > "Jimmy S." wrote:
    >
    > > Hi Howelljo,
    > >
    > > Can you perform the steps in this part of the article?
    > > http://michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm#RI
    > >
    > > --
    > > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    > > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    > >
    Hi Jimmy

    I performed the repair install this morning and unfortunately I still have
    the same problem. This is now getting very fustrating, any other suggestions?

    Howellsjo
    > > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    > > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    > > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    > > _________________________________________________________
    > >
    > > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:4018E9AE-4033-4398-B8FE-2510F212C5BA@microsoft.com...
    > > |
    > > |
    > > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    > > |
    > > | > Hi Howelljo,
    > > | >
    > > | > Ask your IT contact if those scripts even run in Safe Mode.
    > > | > If your contact says they do, then the suggestion is quite valid.
    > > | > Tell him everything we've tried so far to resolve this issue.
    > > | >
    > > | > --
    > > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    > > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    > > |
    > > | Jimmy
    > > |
    > > | I tried all this and it still didn't work. I also went to re-install windows
    > > | and I found I have another slight problem. The advice sheet you supplied told
    > > | me to go to the CMD prompt which I did, unfortunately I don't get the script
    > > | i shoud do. It comes up with Family / Documents and Settings as it tells me
    > > | that C:\windows|system32 is not a valid file system.
    > > | I haven't gone any further with this yet as i need to know how to get around
    > > | this part now
    > > | >
    > > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    > > | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    > > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    > > | > _________________________________________________________
    > > | >
    > > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:FA572D33-FBDD-4465-A8EB-0AC884302CA5@microsoft.com...
    > > | > |
    > > | > |
    > > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    > > | > |
    > > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    > > | > | >
    > > | > | > Here's what we've done to narrow down the culprit:
    > > | > | >
    > > | > | > 1. We tried another profile;
    > > | > | > 2. We tried Safe Mode to rule out any other software (conflicts);
    > > | > | > 3. We tried the game on another PC to rule out the game itself;
    > > | > | > 4. We ran a complete virus and spyware scan to rule out malware;
    > > | > | > 5. We tried all of the MS and "known solutions" for the error ...
    > > | > | >
    > > | > | > The next logical conclusion is that your current installation is at fault.
    > > | > | >
    > > | > | >
    > > | > | > How To Repair Windows:
    > > | > | > Unplug from your Internet connection, and then repair Windows:
    > > | > | > using this method: http://michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm
    > > | > | >
    > > | > | > Afterwards, boot up your system, turn on your XP Internet Firewall,
    > > | > | > plug back into your Internet connection and install all Critical and
    > > | > | > Recommended updates from: http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com
    > > | > | >
    > > | > | > --
    > > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    > > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    > > | > | >
    > > | > | > Hi Jimmy
    > > | > |
    > > | > | I will try that as soon as I get home. Some-one in the IT dept at work has
    > > | > | also suggested that I look at either my MS Office configuration, as outlook
    > > | > | can sometimes run a script process in the background or even the running
    > > | > | processes on my Nvidia graphics card as sometimes this can run items in the
    > > | > | background. Are either of these suggestions valid?
    > > | > |
    > > | > | Howelljo
    > > | > | > Game FAQs: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=FH;[LN];gms
    > > | > | > Visit my Zone.com / Gaming Helpsite: http://nibblesnbits.tk or Call / Contact
    > > | > | > MS Support at: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=sz;en-us;top
    > > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    > > | > | > _________________________________________________________
    > > | > | >
    > > | > | >
    > > | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:D6EA6714-3D0A-49C3-8539-D4F7CB958095@microsoft.com...
    > > | > | > |
    > > | > | > |
    > > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    > > | > | > |
    > > | > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    > > | > | > | >
    > > | > | > | > Lets see if there is a problem with the game's installer by trying to
    > > | > | > | > install that game on another Windows XP system to see the results.
    > > | > | > | >
    > > | > | > | > -- Hi Jimmy, just loaded the game onto my works's pc which runs XP Professional and it ran beautifully first time, so
    > > it's
    > > | > | > obviously something loaded onto my home pc and not the game itself
    > > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    > > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    > > | > | > | >
    > > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    > > | > | > | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    > > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    > > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
    > > | > | > | >
    > > | > | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > > news:403BCF2F-9060-461A-85C9-EE71A0DA995D@microsoft.com...
    > > | > | > | > |
    > > | > | > | > |
    > > | > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    > > | > | > | > |
    > > | > | > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    > > | > | > | > | >
    > > | > | > | > | > There's a couple of additional steps we should explore:
    > > | > | > | > | >
    > > | > | > | > | > 1. In case you have malware on your system which is being detected
    > > | > | > | > | > as a debugger, run a complete AntiVirus and AntiSpyware scan;
    > > | > | > | > | >
    > > | > | > | > | > 2. In case your Profile is corrupt, create a new account on your system
    > > | > | > | > | > with administrator privileges, and try installing PoC using that account.
    > > | > | > | > | >
    > > | > | > | > | > --
    > > | > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    > > | > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    > > | > | > | > | >
    > > | > | > | > |
    > > | > | > | > | Hi Jimmy
    > > | > | > | > |
    > > | > | > | > | Sorry, no good either. I regulalry check my machine for spyware and viruses
    > > | > | > | > | and so neither was found. I did create a new profile and exactly the same
    > > | > | > | > | message came up, so it's not a corrupted profiles. I even made sure that the
    > > | > | > | > | disable debugging script was checked in the advanced section of internet
    > > | > | > | > | explorer tool even though i run Firefox on my system. So its back to you I'm
    > > | > | > | > | afraid
    > > | > | > | > |
    > > | > | > | > | Howelljo
    > > | > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    > > | > | > | > | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    > > | > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    > > | > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
    > > | > | > | > | >
    > > | > | > | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > > | > news:F62F4008-F6F5-4EF8-8010-F5B93211F7F1@microsoft.com...
    > > | > | > | > | > |
    > > | > | > | > | > |
    > > | > | > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    > > | > | > | > | > |
    > > | > | > | > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    > > | > | > | > | > | >
    > > | > | > | > | > | > Did you also use all the methods in this MS KB including Clean Boot?
    > > | > | > | > | > | > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=812759
    > > | > | > | > | > | >
    > > | > | > | > | > | > --
    > > | > | > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    > > | > | > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    > > | > | > | > | > |
    > > | > | > | > | > | Hi Jimmy
    > > | > | > | > | > |
    > > | > | > | > | > | Yes I tried everything, there is no amdfix.sys file on my system I even
    > > | > | > | > | > | tried a wildcard search for AMD. The clean boot made no difference and I do
    > > | > | > | > | > | not have the Creative Audigy soundcard installed. I am at a loss at the
    > > | > | > | > | > | moment
    > > | > | > | > | > |
    > > | > | > | > | > | howelljo
    > > | > | > | > | > | >
    > > | > | > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    > > | > | > | > | > | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    > > | > | > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    > > | > | > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
    > > | > | > | > | > | >
    > > | > | > | > | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > > | > | > news:85744D49-18FA-48ED-A26E-759F8B238793@microsoft.com...
    > > | > | > | > | > | > |
    > > | > | > | > | > | > |
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    > > | > | > | > | > | > |
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Here's what Nick Kritselis from Microsoft suggests ...
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > This can occur if you have the /DEBUG switch in your boot.ini file. Follow
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > these steps to remove the /DEBUG switch:
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > 1) Make sure Windows is set to Show All Files. To view protected operating
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > system files:
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Double-click My Computer.
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > On the Tools menu, click Folder Options.
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Click the View tab.
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Click the "Show hidden files and folders" circle under "Hidden files and
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > folders".
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Click to clear the "Hide extensions for known file types" check box.
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Click to clear the "Hide protected operating system files" check box.
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Click Yes when you are prompted to confirm your choice.
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Click OK.
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > 2) Find boot.ini on C:\
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > 3) Right-click on the file-icon and choose Properties - uncheck the
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Read-Only check box if it is checked, then click OK.
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > 4) Double-click the boot.ini file, you should see text that looks like this:
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > [boot loader]
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > timeout=30
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > [operating systems]
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Professional" /fastdetect /DEBUG
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > 5) Remove the "/DEBUG" listing and any other "/" listings after ""Microsoft
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect" *** WARNING - If you have a multi-boot
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > option, you may show more than one line under "[Operating systems]". Only
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > remove text on the line pertaining to the operating system you are booting
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > to. ***
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > 6) Save the boot.ini file and close all Windows to desktop.
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > 7) Reboot system.
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Hope this helps.
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Thanks,
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Nick Kritselis [MS]
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > --
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > > | > | > | > news:0971A10C-5995-4F10-AD58-15B8577C8186@microsoft.com...
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > |
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > |
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > |
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > That error may occur if one or more of the following conditions are true:
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > a.. There are programs (such as an antivirus program or debugging software)
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > that run in the background and that interfere with the game startup process.
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > b.. Your sound card or sound card drivers are outdated.
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > c.. The Creative Audigy sound card is installed in your computer. This sound
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > card may conflict with the game startup process.
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > RESOLUTION
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > To resolve this issue, use the methods presented in this article:
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=812759
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > --
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > Game FAQs: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=FH;[LN];gms
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > Visit my Zone.com / Gaming Helpsite: http://nibblesnbits.tk or Call / Contact
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > MS Support at: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=sz;en-us;top
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > > | > | > | > | > news:BBDA51B7-C7F2-49D6-881F-10A8DF20B7C1@microsoft.com...
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | Hi
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > |
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | I have purchased the above game and although it installed correctly it wont
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | start. I get an error message stating that I have a "debugger" running and i
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | need to close this before the game will run.
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | Where di i find the program and how do I close it down
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > |
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | Thanks
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > |
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | Howelljo
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > None of the suggestions work.
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | My computer is regulaly updated - and my audio drivers are Legacy / Nvidia.
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | I have put in a search for the amdfix.sys file and it does not appear to be
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | on my system.
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | Any other suggestions? as this is not the only game to give me this message
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | and it's extremely annoying. The game runs a brief load up screen and then
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | givee me the message. I run xp professional and it's asking whether i'm
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | running WinIce/SoftIce software.
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > |
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | Thanks
    > > | > | > | > | > | > | >
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    Hi Howell,

    Do you have an extra partition on your hard drive?
    If so, please install Windows XP to that 2nd partition
    and see if the same error occurs. This type of error
    usually indicates a software issue, however at this point
    we can't be sure it's not hardware / device driver issue.

    --
    Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

    Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    _________________________________________________________

    "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:B7DE2BBE-8920-46F9-93D9-323551975A60@microsoft.com...
    |
    |
    | "Howelljo" wrote:
    |
    | > I haven't tried it yet, will do this evening when i get home, should be no
    | > problem at as i seem to remember i get this option when i've looked at the
    | > disc in the past
    | >
    | > Howelljo
    | >
    | > "Jimmy S." wrote:
    | >
    | > > Hi Howelljo,
    | > >
    | > > Can you perform the steps in this part of the article?
    | > > http://michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm#RI
    | > >
    | > > --
    | > > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    | > > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    | > >
    | Hi Jimmy
    |
    | I performed the repair install this morning and unfortunately I still have
    | the same problem. This is now getting very fustrating, any other suggestions?
    |
    | Howellsjo
    | > > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    | > > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    | > > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    | > > _________________________________________________________
    | > >
    | > > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:4018E9AE-4033-4398-B8FE-2510F212C5BA@microsoft.com...
    | > > |
    | > > |
    | > > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    | > > |
    | > > | > Hi Howelljo,
    | > > | >
    | > > | > Ask your IT contact if those scripts even run in Safe Mode.
    | > > | > If your contact says they do, then the suggestion is quite valid.
    | > > | > Tell him everything we've tried so far to resolve this issue.
    | > > | >
    | > > | > --
    | > > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    | > > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    | > > |
    | > > | Jimmy
    | > > |
    | > > | I tried all this and it still didn't work. I also went to re-install windows
    | > > | and I found I have another slight problem. The advice sheet you supplied told
    | > > | me to go to the CMD prompt which I did, unfortunately I don't get the script
    | > > | i shoud do. It comes up with Family / Documents and Settings as it tells me
    | > > | that C:\windows|system32 is not a valid file system.
    | > > | I haven't gone any further with this yet as i need to know how to get around
    | > > | this part now
    | > > | >
    | > > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    | > > | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    | > > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    | > > | > _________________________________________________________
    | > > | >
    | > > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:FA572D33-FBDD-4465-A8EB-0AC884302CA5@microsoft.com...
    | > > | > |
    | > > | > |
    | > > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    | > > | > |
    | > > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    | > > | > | >
    | > > | > | > Here's what we've done to narrow down the culprit:
    | > > | > | >
    | > > | > | > 1. We tried another profile;
    | > > | > | > 2. We tried Safe Mode to rule out any other software (conflicts);
    | > > | > | > 3. We tried the game on another PC to rule out the game itself;
    | > > | > | > 4. We ran a complete virus and spyware scan to rule out malware;
    | > > | > | > 5. We tried all of the MS and "known solutions" for the error ...
    | > > | > | >
    | > > | > | > The next logical conclusion is that your current installation is at fault.
    | > > | > | >
    | > > | > | >
    | > > | > | > How To Repair Windows:
    | > > | > | > Unplug from your Internet connection, and then repair Windows:
    | > > | > | > using this method: http://michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm
    | > > | > | >
    | > > | > | > Afterwards, boot up your system, turn on your XP Internet Firewall,
    | > > | > | > plug back into your Internet connection and install all Critical and
    | > > | > | > Recommended updates from: http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com
    | > > | > | >
    | > > | > | > --
    | > > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    | > > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    | > > | > | >
    | > > | > | > Hi Jimmy
    | > > | > |
    | > > | > | I will try that as soon as I get home. Some-one in the IT dept at work has
    | > > | > | also suggested that I look at either my MS Office configuration, as outlook
    | > > | > | can sometimes run a script process in the background or even the running
    | > > | > | processes on my Nvidia graphics card as sometimes this can run items in the
    | > > | > | background. Are either of these suggestions valid?
    | > > | > |
    | > > | > | Howelljo
    | > > | > | > Game FAQs: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=FH;[LN];gms
    | > > | > | > Visit my Zone.com / Gaming Helpsite: http://nibblesnbits.tk or Call / Contact
    | > > | > | > MS Support at: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=sz;en-us;top
    | > > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    | > > | > | > _________________________________________________________
    | > > | > | >
    | > > | > | >
    | > > | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:D6EA6714-3D0A-49C3-8539-D4F7CB958095@microsoft.com...
    | > > | > | > |
    | > > | > | > |
    | > > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    | > > | > | > |
    | > > | > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    | > > | > | > | >
    | > > | > | > | > Lets see if there is a problem with the game's installer by trying to
    | > > | > | > | > install that game on another Windows XP system to see the results.
    | > > | > | > | >
    | > > | > | > | > -- Hi Jimmy, just loaded the game onto my works's pc which runs XP Professional and it ran beautifully first time,
    so
    | > > it's
    | > > | > | > obviously something loaded onto my home pc and not the game itself
    | > > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    | > > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    | > > | > | > | >
    | > > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    | > > | > | > | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    | > > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    | > > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
    | > > | > | > | >
    | > > | > | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    | > > news:403BCF2F-9060-461A-85C9-EE71A0DA995D@microsoft.com...
    | > > | > | > | > |
    | > > | > | > | > |
    | > > | > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    | > > | > | > | > |
    | > > | > | > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    | > > | > | > | > | >
    | > > | > | > | > | > There's a couple of additional steps we should explore:
    | > > | > | > | > | >
    | > > | > | > | > | > 1. In case you have malware on your system which is being detected
    | > > | > | > | > | > as a debugger, run a complete AntiVirus and AntiSpyware scan;
    | > > | > | > | > | >
    | > > | > | > | > | > 2. In case your Profile is corrupt, create a new account on your system
    | > > | > | > | > | > with administrator privileges, and try installing PoC using that account.
    | > > | > | > | > | >
    | > > | > | > | > | > --
    | > > | > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    | > > | > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    | > > | > | > | > | >
    | > > | > | > | > |
    | > > | > | > | > | Hi Jimmy
    | > > | > | > | > |
    | > > | > | > | > | Sorry, no good either. I regulalry check my machine for spyware and viruses
    | > > | > | > | > | and so neither was found. I did create a new profile and exactly the same
    | > > | > | > | > | message came up, so it's not a corrupted profiles. I even made sure that the
    | > > | > | > | > | disable debugging script was checked in the advanced section of internet
    | > > | > | > | > | explorer tool even though i run Firefox on my system. So its back to you I'm
    | > > | > | > | > | afraid
    | > > | > | > | > |
    | > > | > | > | > | Howelljo
    | > > | > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    | > > | > | > | > | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    | > > | > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    | > > | > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
    | > > | > | > | > | >
    | > > | > | > | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    | > > | > news:F62F4008-F6F5-4EF8-8010-F5B93211F7F1@microsoft.com...
    | > > | > | > | > | > |
    | > > | > | > | > | > |
    | > > | > | > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    | > > | > | > | > | > |
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    | > > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > Did you also use all the methods in this MS KB including Clean Boot?
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=812759
    | > > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > --
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    | > > | > | > | > | > |
    | > > | > | > | > | > | Hi Jimmy
    | > > | > | > | > | > |
    | > > | > | > | > | > | Yes I tried everything, there is no amdfix.sys file on my system I even
    | > > | > | > | > | > | tried a wildcard search for AMD. The clean boot made no difference and I do
    | > > | > | > | > | > | not have the Creative Audigy soundcard installed. I am at a loss at the
    | > > | > | > | > | > | moment
    | > > | > | > | > | > |
    | > > | > | > | > | > | howelljo
    | > > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
    | > > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    | > > | > | > news:85744D49-18FA-48ED-A26E-759F8B238793@microsoft.com...
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > |
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > |
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > |
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Here's what Nick Kritselis from Microsoft suggests ...
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > This can occur if you have the /DEBUG switch in your boot.ini file. Follow
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > these steps to remove the /DEBUG switch:
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > 1) Make sure Windows is set to Show All Files. To view protected operating
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > system files:
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Double-click My Computer.
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > On the Tools menu, click Folder Options.
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Click the View tab.
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Click the "Show hidden files and folders" circle under "Hidden files and
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > folders".
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Click to clear the "Hide extensions for known file types" check box.
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Click to clear the "Hide protected operating system files" check box.
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Click Yes when you are prompted to confirm your choice.
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Click OK.
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > 2) Find boot.ini on C:\
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > 3) Right-click on the file-icon and choose Properties - uncheck the
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Read-Only check box if it is checked, then click OK.
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > 4) Double-click the boot.ini file, you should see text that looks like this:
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > [boot loader]
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > timeout=30
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > [operating systems]
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Professional" /fastdetect /DEBUG
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > 5) Remove the "/DEBUG" listing and any other "/" listings after ""Microsoft
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect" *** WARNING - If you have a multi-boot
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > option, you may show more than one line under "[Operating systems]". Only
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > remove text on the line pertaining to the operating system you are booting
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > to. ***
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > 6) Save the boot.ini file and close all Windows to desktop.
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > 7) Reboot system.
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Hope this helps.
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Thanks,
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Nick Kritselis [MS]
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > --
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    | > > | > | > | > news:0971A10C-5995-4F10-AD58-15B8577C8186@microsoft.com...
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > |
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > |
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > |
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > That error may occur if one or more of the following conditions are true:
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > a.. There are programs (such as an antivirus program or debugging software)
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > that run in the background and that interfere with the game startup process.
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > b.. Your sound card or sound card drivers are outdated.
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > c.. The Creative Audigy sound card is installed in your computer. This sound
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > card may conflict with the game startup process.
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > RESOLUTION
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > To resolve this issue, use the methods presented in this article:
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=812759
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > --
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > Game FAQs: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=FH;[LN];gms
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > Visit my Zone.com / Gaming Helpsite: http://nibblesnbits.tk or Call / Contact
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > MS Support at: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=sz;en-us;top
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    | > > | > | > | > | > news:BBDA51B7-C7F2-49D6-881F-10A8DF20B7C1@microsoft.com...
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | Hi
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > |
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | I have purchased the above game and although it installed correctly it wont
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | start. I get an error message stating that I have a "debugger" running and i
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | need to close this before the game will run.
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | Where di i find the program and how do I close it down
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > |
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | Thanks
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > |
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | Howelljo
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > None of the suggestions work.
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | My computer is regulaly updated - and my audio drivers are Legacy / Nvidia.
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | I have put in a search for the amdfix.sys file and it does not appear to be
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | on my system.
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | Any other suggestions? as this is not the only game to give me this message
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | and it's extremely annoying. The game runs a brief load up screen and then
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | givee me the message. I run xp professional and it's asking whether i'm
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | running WinIce/SoftIce software.
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > |
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | Thanks
    | > > | > | > | > | > | > | >
  19. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.games (More info?)

    "Jimmy S." wrote:

    > Hi Howell,
    >
    > Do you have an extra partition on your hard drive?
    > If so, please install Windows XP to that 2nd partition
    > and see if the same error occurs. This type of error
    > usually indicates a software issue, however at this point
    > we can't be sure it's not hardware / device driver issue.
    >
    > --
    > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    >

    Hi Jimmy

    My hard drive is actually divided into 5 partitions. I have a spare
    partition at the moment, but if i install xp onto this spare partition wont
    it conflict with the current installation

    Howelljo
    > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    > _________________________________________________________
    >
    > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:B7DE2BBE-8920-46F9-93D9-323551975A60@microsoft.com...
    > |
    > |
    > | "Howelljo" wrote:
    > |
    > | > I haven't tried it yet, will do this evening when i get home, should be no
    > | > problem at as i seem to remember i get this option when i've looked at the
    > | > disc in the past
    > | >
    > | > Howelljo
    > | >
    > | > "Jimmy S." wrote:
    > | >
    > | > > Hi Howelljo,
    > | > >
    > | > > Can you perform the steps in this part of the article?
    > | > > http://michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm#RI
    > | > >
    > | > > --
    > | > > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    > | > > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    > | > >
    > | Hi Jimmy
    > |
    > | I performed the repair install this morning and unfortunately I still have
    > | the same problem. This is now getting very fustrating, any other suggestions?
    > |
    > | Howellsjo
    > | > > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    > | > > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    > | > > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    > | > > _________________________________________________________
    > | > >
    > | > > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:4018E9AE-4033-4398-B8FE-2510F212C5BA@microsoft.com...
    > | > > |
    > | > > |
    > | > > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    > | > > |
    > | > > | > Hi Howelljo,
    > | > > | >
    > | > > | > Ask your IT contact if those scripts even run in Safe Mode.
    > | > > | > If your contact says they do, then the suggestion is quite valid.
    > | > > | > Tell him everything we've tried so far to resolve this issue.
    > | > > | >
    > | > > | > --
    > | > > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    > | > > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    > | > > |
    > | > > | Jimmy
    > | > > |
    > | > > | I tried all this and it still didn't work. I also went to re-install windows
    > | > > | and I found I have another slight problem. The advice sheet you supplied told
    > | > > | me to go to the CMD prompt which I did, unfortunately I don't get the script
    > | > > | i shoud do. It comes up with Family / Documents and Settings as it tells me
    > | > > | that C:\windows|system32 is not a valid file system.
    > | > > | I haven't gone any further with this yet as i need to know how to get around
    > | > > | this part now
    > | > > | >
    > | > > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    > | > > | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    > | > > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    > | > > | > _________________________________________________________
    > | > > | >
    > | > > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > news:FA572D33-FBDD-4465-A8EB-0AC884302CA5@microsoft.com...
    > | > > | > |
    > | > > | > |
    > | > > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    > | > > | > |
    > | > > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    > | > > | > | >
    > | > > | > | > Here's what we've done to narrow down the culprit:
    > | > > | > | >
    > | > > | > | > 1. We tried another profile;
    > | > > | > | > 2. We tried Safe Mode to rule out any other software (conflicts);
    > | > > | > | > 3. We tried the game on another PC to rule out the game itself;
    > | > > | > | > 4. We ran a complete virus and spyware scan to rule out malware;
    > | > > | > | > 5. We tried all of the MS and "known solutions" for the error ...
    > | > > | > | >
    > | > > | > | > The next logical conclusion is that your current installation is at fault.
    > | > > | > | >
    > | > > | > | >
    > | > > | > | > How To Repair Windows:
    > | > > | > | > Unplug from your Internet connection, and then repair Windows:
    > | > > | > | > using this method: http://michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm
    > | > > | > | >
    > | > > | > | > Afterwards, boot up your system, turn on your XP Internet Firewall,
    > | > > | > | > plug back into your Internet connection and install all Critical and
    > | > > | > | > Recommended updates from: http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com
    > | > > | > | >
    > | > > | > | > --
    > | > > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    > | > > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    > | > > | > | >
    > | > > | > | > Hi Jimmy
    > | > > | > |
    > | > > | > | I will try that as soon as I get home. Some-one in the IT dept at work has
    > | > > | > | also suggested that I look at either my MS Office configuration, as outlook
    > | > > | > | can sometimes run a script process in the background or even the running
    > | > > | > | processes on my Nvidia graphics card as sometimes this can run items in the
    > | > > | > | background. Are either of these suggestions valid?
    > | > > | > |
    > | > > | > | Howelljo
    > | > > | > | > Game FAQs: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=FH;[LN];gms
    > | > > | > | > Visit my Zone.com / Gaming Helpsite: http://nibblesnbits.tk or Call / Contact
    > | > > | > | > MS Support at: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=sz;en-us;top
    > | > > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    > | > > | > | > _________________________________________________________
    > | > > | > | >
    > | > > | > | >
    > | > > | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > news:D6EA6714-3D0A-49C3-8539-D4F7CB958095@microsoft.com...
    > | > > | > | > |
    > | > > | > | > |
    > | > > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    > | > > | > | > |
    > | > > | > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    > | > > | > | > | >
    > | > > | > | > | > Lets see if there is a problem with the game's installer by trying to
    > | > > | > | > | > install that game on another Windows XP system to see the results.
    > | > > | > | > | >
    > | > > | > | > | > -- Hi Jimmy, just loaded the game onto my works's pc which runs XP Professional and it ran beautifully first time,
    > so
    > | > > it's
    > | > > | > | > obviously something loaded onto my home pc and not the game itself
    > | > > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    > | > > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    > | > > | > | > | >
    > | > > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    > | > > | > | > | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    > | > > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    > | > > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
    > | > > | > | > | >
    > | > > | > | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > | > > news:403BCF2F-9060-461A-85C9-EE71A0DA995D@microsoft.com...
    > | > > | > | > | > |
    > | > > | > | > | > |
    > | > > | > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    > | > > | > | > | > |
    > | > > | > | > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    > | > > | > | > | > | >
    > | > > | > | > | > | > There's a couple of additional steps we should explore:
    > | > > | > | > | > | >
    > | > > | > | > | > | > 1. In case you have malware on your system which is being detected
    > | > > | > | > | > | > as a debugger, run a complete AntiVirus and AntiSpyware scan;
    > | > > | > | > | > | >
    > | > > | > | > | > | > 2. In case your Profile is corrupt, create a new account on your system
    > | > > | > | > | > | > with administrator privileges, and try installing PoC using that account.
    > | > > | > | > | > | >
    > | > > | > | > | > | > --
    > | > > | > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    > | > > | > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    > | > > | > | > | > | >
    > | > > | > | > | > |
    > | > > | > | > | > | Hi Jimmy
    > | > > | > | > | > |
    > | > > | > | > | > | Sorry, no good either. I regulalry check my machine for spyware and viruses
    > | > > | > | > | > | and so neither was found. I did create a new profile and exactly the same
    > | > > | > | > | > | message came up, so it's not a corrupted profiles. I even made sure that the
    > | > > | > | > | > | disable debugging script was checked in the advanced section of internet
    > | > > | > | > | > | explorer tool even though i run Firefox on my system. So its back to you I'm
    > | > > | > | > | > | afraid
    > | > > | > | > | > |
    > | > > | > | > | > | Howelljo
    > | > > | > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    > | > > | > | > | > | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    > | > > | > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    > | > > | > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
    > | > > | > | > | > | >
    > | > > | > | > | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > | > > | > news:F62F4008-F6F5-4EF8-8010-F5B93211F7F1@microsoft.com...
    > | > > | > | > | > | > |
    > | > > | > | > | > | > |
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    > | > > | > | > | > | > |
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > Did you also use all the methods in this MS KB including Clean Boot?
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=812759
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > --
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    > | > > | > | > | > | > |
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | Hi Jimmy
    > | > > | > | > | > | > |
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | Yes I tried everything, there is no amdfix.sys file on my system I even
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | tried a wildcard search for AMD. The clean boot made no difference and I do
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | not have the Creative Audigy soundcard installed. I am at a loss at the
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | moment
    > | > > | > | > | > | > |
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | howelljo
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > | > > | > | > news:85744D49-18FA-48ED-A26E-759F8B238793@microsoft.com...
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > |
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > |
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > |
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Here's what Nick Kritselis from Microsoft suggests ...
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > This can occur if you have the /DEBUG switch in your boot.ini file. Follow
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > these steps to remove the /DEBUG switch:
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > 1) Make sure Windows is set to Show All Files. To view protected operating
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > system files:
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Double-click My Computer.
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > On the Tools menu, click Folder Options.
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Click the View tab.
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Click the "Show hidden files and folders" circle under "Hidden files and
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > folders".
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Click to clear the "Hide extensions for known file types" check box.
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Click to clear the "Hide protected operating system files" check box.
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Click Yes when you are prompted to confirm your choice.
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Click OK.
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > 2) Find boot.ini on C:\
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > 3) Right-click on the file-icon and choose Properties - uncheck the
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Read-Only check box if it is checked, then click OK.
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > 4) Double-click the boot.ini file, you should see text that looks like this:
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > [boot loader]
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > timeout=30
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > [operating systems]
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Professional" /fastdetect /DEBUG
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > 5) Remove the "/DEBUG" listing and any other "/" listings after ""Microsoft
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect" *** WARNING - If you have a multi-boot
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > option, you may show more than one line under "[Operating systems]". Only
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > remove text on the line pertaining to the operating system you are booting
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > to. ***
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > 6) Save the boot.ini file and close all Windows to desktop.
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > 7) Reboot system.
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Hope this helps.
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Thanks,
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Nick Kritselis [MS]
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > --
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > | > > | > | > | > news:0971A10C-5995-4F10-AD58-15B8577C8186@microsoft.com...
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > |
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > |
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > |
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > That error may occur if one or more of the following conditions are true:
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > a.. There are programs (such as an antivirus program or debugging software)
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > that run in the background and that interfere with the game startup process.
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > b.. Your sound card or sound card drivers are outdated.
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > c.. The Creative Audigy sound card is installed in your computer. This sound
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > card may conflict with the game startup process.
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > RESOLUTION
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > To resolve this issue, use the methods presented in this article:
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=812759
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > --
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > Game FAQs: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=FH;[LN];gms
  20. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.games (More info?)

    Hi Howelljo,

    No, it will not conflict as they are separate installations. :-)

    --
    Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

    Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    _________________________________________________________

    "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:E4F6B770-1C0B-46E3-B356-138195CB0E39@microsoft.com...
    |
    |
    | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    |
    | > Hi Howell,
    | >
    | > Do you have an extra partition on your hard drive?
    | > If so, please install Windows XP to that 2nd partition
    | > and see if the same error occurs. This type of error
    | > usually indicates a software issue, however at this point
    | > we can't be sure it's not hardware / device driver issue.
    | >
    | > --
    | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    | >
    |
    | Hi Jimmy
    |
    | My hard drive is actually divided into 5 partitions. I have a spare
    | partition at the moment, but if i install xp onto this spare partition wont
    | it conflict with the current installation
    |
    | Howelljo
    | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    | > _________________________________________________________
    | >
    | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:B7DE2BBE-8920-46F9-93D9-323551975A60@microsoft.com...
    | > |
    | > |
    | > | "Howelljo" wrote:
    | > |
    | > | > I haven't tried it yet, will do this evening when i get home, should be no
    | > | > problem at as i seem to remember i get this option when i've looked at the
    | > | > disc in the past
    | > | >
    | > | > Howelljo
    | > | >
    | > | > "Jimmy S." wrote:
    | > | >
    | > | > > Hi Howelljo,
    | > | > >
    | > | > > Can you perform the steps in this part of the article?
    | > | > > http://michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm#RI
    | > | > >
    | > | > > --
    | > | > > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    | > | > > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    | > | > >
    | > | Hi Jimmy
    | > |
    | > | I performed the repair install this morning and unfortunately I still have
    | > | the same problem. This is now getting very fustrating, any other suggestions?
    | > |
    | > | Howellsjo
    | > | > > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    | > | > > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    | > | > > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    | > | > > _________________________________________________________
    | > | > >
    | > | > > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:4018E9AE-4033-4398-B8FE-2510F212C5BA@microsoft.com...
    | > | > > |
    | > | > > |
    | > | > > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    | > | > > |
    | > | > > | > Hi Howelljo,
    | > | > > | >
    | > | > > | > Ask your IT contact if those scripts even run in Safe Mode.
    | > | > > | > If your contact says they do, then the suggestion is quite valid.
    | > | > > | > Tell him everything we've tried so far to resolve this issue.
    | > | > > | >
    | > | > > | > --
    | > | > > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    | > | > > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    | > | > > |
    | > | > > | Jimmy
    | > | > > |
    | > | > > | I tried all this and it still didn't work. I also went to re-install windows
    | > | > > | and I found I have another slight problem. The advice sheet you supplied told
    | > | > > | me to go to the CMD prompt which I did, unfortunately I don't get the script
    | > | > > | i shoud do. It comes up with Family / Documents and Settings as it tells me
    | > | > > | that C:\windows|system32 is not a valid file system.
    | > | > > | I haven't gone any further with this yet as i need to know how to get around
    | > | > > | this part now
    | > | > > | >
    | > | > > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    | > | > > | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    | > | > > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    | > | > > | > _________________________________________________________
    | > | > > | >
    | > | > > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    | > news:FA572D33-FBDD-4465-A8EB-0AC884302CA5@microsoft.com...
    | > | > > | > |
    | > | > > | > |
    | > | > > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    | > | > > | > |
    | > | > > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    | > | > > | > | >
    | > | > > | > | > Here's what we've done to narrow down the culprit:
    | > | > > | > | >
    | > | > > | > | > 1. We tried another profile;
    | > | > > | > | > 2. We tried Safe Mode to rule out any other software (conflicts);
    | > | > > | > | > 3. We tried the game on another PC to rule out the game itself;
    | > | > > | > | > 4. We ran a complete virus and spyware scan to rule out malware;
    | > | > > | > | > 5. We tried all of the MS and "known solutions" for the error ...
    | > | > > | > | >
    | > | > > | > | > The next logical conclusion is that your current installation is at fault.
    | > | > > | > | >
    | > | > > | > | >
    | > | > > | > | > How To Repair Windows:
    | > | > > | > | > Unplug from your Internet connection, and then repair Windows:
    | > | > > | > | > using this method: http://michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm
    | > | > > | > | >
    | > | > > | > | > Afterwards, boot up your system, turn on your XP Internet Firewall,
    | > | > > | > | > plug back into your Internet connection and install all Critical and
    | > | > > | > | > Recommended updates from: http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com
    | > | > > | > | >
    | > | > > | > | > --
    | > | > > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    | > | > > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    | > | > > | > | >
    | > | > > | > | > Hi Jimmy
    | > | > > | > |
    | > | > > | > | I will try that as soon as I get home. Some-one in the IT dept at work has
    | > | > > | > | also suggested that I look at either my MS Office configuration, as outlook
    | > | > > | > | can sometimes run a script process in the background or even the running
    | > | > > | > | processes on my Nvidia graphics card as sometimes this can run items in the
    | > | > > | > | background. Are either of these suggestions valid?
    | > | > > | > |
    | > | > > | > | Howelljo
    | > | > > | > | > Game FAQs: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=FH;[LN];gms
    | > | > > | > | > Visit my Zone.com / Gaming Helpsite: http://nibblesnbits.tk or Call / Contact
    | > | > > | > | > MS Support at: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=sz;en-us;top
    | > | > > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    | > | > > | > | > _________________________________________________________
    | > | > > | > | >
    | > | > > | > | >
    | > | > > | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    | > news:D6EA6714-3D0A-49C3-8539-D4F7CB958095@microsoft.com...
    | > | > > | > | > |
    | > | > > | > | > |
    | > | > > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    | > | > > | > | > |
    | > | > > | > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    | > | > > | > | > | >
    | > | > > | > | > | > Lets see if there is a problem with the game's installer by trying to
    | > | > > | > | > | > install that game on another Windows XP system to see the results.
    | > | > > | > | > | >
    | > | > > | > | > | > -- Hi Jimmy, just loaded the game onto my works's pc which runs XP Professional and it ran beautifully first
    time,
    | > so
    | > | > > it's
    | > | > > | > | > obviously something loaded onto my home pc and not the game itself
    | > | > > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    | > | > > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    | > | > > | > | > | >
    | > | > > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    | > | > > | > | > | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    | > | > > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    | > | > > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
    | > | > > | > | > | >
    | > | > > | > | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    | > | > > news:403BCF2F-9060-461A-85C9-EE71A0DA995D@microsoft.com...
    | > | > > | > | > | > |
    | > | > > | > | > | > |
    | > | > > | > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    | > | > > | > | > | > |
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    | > | > > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > There's a couple of additional steps we should explore:
    | > | > > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > 1. In case you have malware on your system which is being detected
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > as a debugger, run a complete AntiVirus and AntiSpyware scan;
    | > | > > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > 2. In case your Profile is corrupt, create a new account on your system
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > with administrator privileges, and try installing PoC using that account.
    | > | > > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > --
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    | > | > > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > > | > | > | > |
    | > | > > | > | > | > | Hi Jimmy
    | > | > > | > | > | > |
    | > | > > | > | > | > | Sorry, no good either. I regulalry check my machine for spyware and viruses
    | > | > > | > | > | > | and so neither was found. I did create a new profile and exactly the same
    | > | > > | > | > | > | message came up, so it's not a corrupted profiles. I even made sure that the
    | > | > > | > | > | > | disable debugging script was checked in the advanced section of internet
    | > | > > | > | > | > | explorer tool even though i run Firefox on my system. So its back to you I'm
    | > | > > | > | > | > | afraid
    | > | > > | > | > | > |
    | > | > > | > | > | > | Howelljo
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
    | > | > > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    | > | > > | > news:F62F4008-F6F5-4EF8-8010-F5B93211F7F1@microsoft.com...
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > |
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > |
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > |
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > Did you also use all the methods in this MS KB including Clean Boot?
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=812759
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > --
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > |
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | Hi Jimmy
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > |
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | Yes I tried everything, there is no amdfix.sys file on my system I even
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | tried a wildcard search for AMD. The clean boot made no difference and I do
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | not have the Creative Audigy soundcard installed. I am at a loss at the
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | moment
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > |
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | howelljo
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    | > | > > | > | > news:85744D49-18FA-48ED-A26E-759F8B238793@microsoft.com...
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > |
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > |
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > |
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Here's what Nick Kritselis from Microsoft suggests ...
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > This can occur if you have the /DEBUG switch in your boot.ini file. Follow
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > these steps to remove the /DEBUG switch:
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > 1) Make sure Windows is set to Show All Files. To view protected operating
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > system files:
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Double-click My Computer.
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > On the Tools menu, click Folder Options.
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Click the View tab.
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Click the "Show hidden files and folders" circle under "Hidden files and
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > folders".
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Click to clear the "Hide extensions for known file types" check box.
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Click to clear the "Hide protected operating system files" check box.
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Click Yes when you are prompted to confirm your choice.
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Click OK.
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > 2) Find boot.ini on C:\
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > 3) Right-click on the file-icon and choose Properties - uncheck the
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Read-Only check box if it is checked, then click OK.
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > 4) Double-click the boot.ini file, you should see text that looks like this:
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > [boot loader]
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > timeout=30
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > [operating systems]
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Professional" /fastdetect /DEBUG
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > 5) Remove the "/DEBUG" listing and any other "/" listings after ""Microsoft
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect" *** WARNING - If you have a multi-boot
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > option, you may show more than one line under "[Operating systems]". Only
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > remove text on the line pertaining to the operating system you are booting
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > to. ***
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > 6) Save the boot.ini file and close all Windows to desktop.
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > 7) Reboot system.
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Hope this helps.
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Thanks,
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Nick Kritselis [MS]
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > --
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    | > | > > | > | > | > news:0971A10C-5995-4F10-AD58-15B8577C8186@microsoft.com...
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > |
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > |
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > |
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > That error may occur if one or more of the following conditions are true:
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > a.. There are programs (such as an antivirus program or debugging software)
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > that run in the background and that interfere with the game startup process.
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > b.. Your sound card or sound card drivers are outdated.
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > c.. The Creative Audigy sound card is installed in your computer. This sound
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > card may conflict with the game startup process.
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > RESOLUTION
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > To resolve this issue, use the methods presented in this article:
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=812759
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > --
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > Game FAQs: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=FH;[LN];gms
  21. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.games (More info?)

    "Jimmy S." wrote:

    > Hi Howelljo,
    >
    > No, it will not conflict as they are separate installations. :-)
    >
    > --
    > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

    Hi Jimmy

    I installed windows onto a spare partition as suggested. The game would not
    even go beyond the load up screen this time to give me the protection
    message. All it did was to switch off and i ended up back at the windows
    screen. However, I did not load up any of my graphics drivers or anything i
    just tried to run the game from the basic windows load, would that have made
    any difference?
    The other thing I have noticed is that when windows first starts to load
    drivers right at the begining of any set up it loads something called a
    "Kernel Debugger", would this be what we are looking for?. Alos if I press F8
    to get to the options screen I also get presented with a "Safe Debugging
    Mode" do any of thses points help?
    Look forward to hearing from you

    Howelljo
    >
    > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    > _________________________________________________________
    >
    > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:E4F6B770-1C0B-46E3-B356-138195CB0E39@microsoft.com...
    > |
    > |
    > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    > |
    > | > Hi Howell,
    > | >
    > | > Do you have an extra partition on your hard drive?
    > | > If so, please install Windows XP to that 2nd partition
    > | > and see if the same error occurs. This type of error
    > | > usually indicates a software issue, however at this point
    > | > we can't be sure it's not hardware / device driver issue.
    > | >
    > | > --
    > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    > | >
    > |
    > | Hi Jimmy
    > |
    > | My hard drive is actually divided into 5 partitions. I have a spare
    > | partition at the moment, but if i install xp onto this spare partition wont
    > | it conflict with the current installation
    > |
    > | Howelljo
    > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    > | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    > | > _________________________________________________________
    > | >
    > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:B7DE2BBE-8920-46F9-93D9-323551975A60@microsoft.com...
    > | > |
    > | > |
    > | > | "Howelljo" wrote:
    > | > |
    > | > | > I haven't tried it yet, will do this evening when i get home, should be no
    > | > | > problem at as i seem to remember i get this option when i've looked at the
    > | > | > disc in the past
    > | > | >
    > | > | > Howelljo
    > | > | >
    > | > | > "Jimmy S." wrote:
    > | > | >
    > | > | > > Hi Howelljo,
    > | > | > >
    > | > | > > Can you perform the steps in this part of the article?
    > | > | > > http://michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm#RI
    > | > | > >
    > | > | > > --
    > | > | > > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    > | > | > > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    > | > | > >
    > | > | Hi Jimmy
    > | > |
    > | > | I performed the repair install this morning and unfortunately I still have
    > | > | the same problem. This is now getting very fustrating, any other suggestions?
    > | > |
    > | > | Howellsjo
    > | > | > > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    > | > | > > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    > | > | > > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    > | > | > > _________________________________________________________
    > | > | > >
    > | > | > > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > news:4018E9AE-4033-4398-B8FE-2510F212C5BA@microsoft.com...
    > | > | > > |
    > | > | > > |
    > | > | > > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    > | > | > > |
    > | > | > > | > Hi Howelljo,
    > | > | > > | >
    > | > | > > | > Ask your IT contact if those scripts even run in Safe Mode.
    > | > | > > | > If your contact says they do, then the suggestion is quite valid.
    > | > | > > | > Tell him everything we've tried so far to resolve this issue.
    > | > | > > | >
    > | > | > > | > --
    > | > | > > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    > | > | > > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    > | > | > > |
    > | > | > > | Jimmy
    > | > | > > |
    > | > | > > | I tried all this and it still didn't work. I also went to re-install windows
    > | > | > > | and I found I have another slight problem. The advice sheet you supplied told
    > | > | > > | me to go to the CMD prompt which I did, unfortunately I don't get the script
    > | > | > > | i shoud do. It comes up with Family / Documents and Settings as it tells me
    > | > | > > | that C:\windows|system32 is not a valid file system.
    > | > | > > | I haven't gone any further with this yet as i need to know how to get around
    > | > | > > | this part now
    > | > | > > | >
    > | > | > > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    > | > | > > | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    > | > | > > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    > | > | > > | > _________________________________________________________
    > | > | > > | >
    > | > | > > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > | > news:FA572D33-FBDD-4465-A8EB-0AC884302CA5@microsoft.com...
    > | > | > > | > |
    > | > | > > | > |
    > | > | > > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    > | > | > > | > |
    > | > | > > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    > | > | > > | > | >
    > | > | > > | > | > Here's what we've done to narrow down the culprit:
    > | > | > > | > | >
    > | > | > > | > | > 1. We tried another profile;
    > | > | > > | > | > 2. We tried Safe Mode to rule out any other software (conflicts);
    > | > | > > | > | > 3. We tried the game on another PC to rule out the game itself;
    > | > | > > | > | > 4. We ran a complete virus and spyware scan to rule out malware;
    > | > | > > | > | > 5. We tried all of the MS and "known solutions" for the error ...
    > | > | > > | > | >
    > | > | > > | > | > The next logical conclusion is that your current installation is at fault.
    > | > | > > | > | >
    > | > | > > | > | >
    > | > | > > | > | > How To Repair Windows:
    > | > | > > | > | > Unplug from your Internet connection, and then repair Windows:
    > | > | > > | > | > using this method: http://michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm
    > | > | > > | > | >
    > | > | > > | > | > Afterwards, boot up your system, turn on your XP Internet Firewall,
    > | > | > > | > | > plug back into your Internet connection and install all Critical and
    > | > | > > | > | > Recommended updates from: http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com
    > | > | > > | > | >
    > | > | > > | > | > --
    > | > | > > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    > | > | > > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    > | > | > > | > | >
    > | > | > > | > | > Hi Jimmy
    > | > | > > | > |
    > | > | > > | > | I will try that as soon as I get home. Some-one in the IT dept at work has
    > | > | > > | > | also suggested that I look at either my MS Office configuration, as outlook
    > | > | > > | > | can sometimes run a script process in the background or even the running
    > | > | > > | > | processes on my Nvidia graphics card as sometimes this can run items in the
    > | > | > > | > | background. Are either of these suggestions valid?
    > | > | > > | > |
    > | > | > > | > | Howelljo
    > | > | > > | > | > Game FAQs: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=FH;[LN];gms
    > | > | > > | > | > Visit my Zone.com / Gaming Helpsite: http://nibblesnbits.tk or Call / Contact
    > | > | > > | > | > MS Support at: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=sz;en-us;top
    > | > | > > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    > | > | > > | > | > _________________________________________________________
    > | > | > > | > | >
    > | > | > > | > | >
    > | > | > > | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > | > news:D6EA6714-3D0A-49C3-8539-D4F7CB958095@microsoft.com...
    > | > | > > | > | > |
    > | > | > > | > | > |
    > | > | > > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    > | > | > > | > | > |
    > | > | > > | > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    > | > | > > | > | > | >
    > | > | > > | > | > | > Lets see if there is a problem with the game's installer by trying to
    > | > | > > | > | > | > install that game on another Windows XP system to see the results.
    > | > | > > | > | > | >
    > | > | > > | > | > | > -- Hi Jimmy, just loaded the game onto my works's pc which runs XP Professional and it ran beautifully first
    > time,
    > | > so
    > | > | > > it's
    > | > | > > | > | > obviously something loaded onto my home pc and not the game itself
    > | > | > > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    > | > | > > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    > | > | > > | > | > | >
    > | > | > > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    > | > | > > | > | > | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    > | > | > > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    > | > | > > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
    > | > | > > | > | > | >
    > | > | > > | > | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > | > | > > news:403BCF2F-9060-461A-85C9-EE71A0DA995D@microsoft.com...
    > | > | > > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    > | > | > > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > There's a couple of additional steps we should explore:
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > 1. In case you have malware on your system which is being detected
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > as a debugger, run a complete AntiVirus and AntiSpyware scan;
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > 2. In case your Profile is corrupt, create a new account on your system
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > with administrator privileges, and try installing PoC using that account.
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > --
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | Hi Jimmy
    > | > | > > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | Sorry, no good either. I regulalry check my machine for spyware and viruses
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | and so neither was found. I did create a new profile and exactly the same
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | message came up, so it's not a corrupted profiles. I even made sure that the
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | disable debugging script was checked in the advanced section of internet
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | explorer tool even though i run Firefox on my system. So its back to you I'm
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | afraid
    > | > | > > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | Howelljo
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > | > | > > | > news:F62F4008-F6F5-4EF8-8010-F5B93211F7F1@microsoft.com...
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > Did you also use all the methods in this MS KB including Clean Boot?
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=812759
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > --
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | Hi Jimmy
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | Yes I tried everything, there is no amdfix.sys file on my system I even
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | tried a wildcard search for AMD. The clean boot made no difference and I do
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | not have the Creative Audigy soundcard installed. I am at a loss at the
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | moment
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | howelljo
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > | > | > > | > | > news:85744D49-18FA-48ED-A26E-759F8B238793@microsoft.com...
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > |
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Here's what Nick Kritselis from Microsoft suggests ...
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > This can occur if you have the /DEBUG switch in your boot.ini file. Follow
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > these steps to remove the /DEBUG switch:
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > 1) Make sure Windows is set to Show All Files. To view protected operating
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > system files:
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Double-click My Computer.
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > On the Tools menu, click Folder Options.
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Click the View tab.
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Click the "Show hidden files and folders" circle under "Hidden files and
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > folders".
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Click to clear the "Hide extensions for known file types" check box.
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Click to clear the "Hide protected operating system files" check box.
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Click Yes when you are prompted to confirm your choice.
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Click OK.
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > 2) Find boot.ini on C:\
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > 3) Right-click on the file-icon and choose Properties - uncheck the
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Read-Only check box if it is checked, then click OK.
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > 4) Double-click the boot.ini file, you should see text that looks like this:
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > [boot loader]
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > timeout=30
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > [operating systems]
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Professional" /fastdetect /DEBUG
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > 5) Remove the "/DEBUG" listing and any other "/" listings after ""Microsoft
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect" *** WARNING - If you have a multi-boot
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > option, you may show more than one line under "[Operating systems]". Only
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > remove text on the line pertaining to the operating system you are booting
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > to. ***
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > 6) Save the boot.ini file and close all Windows to desktop.
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > 7) Reboot system.
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Hope this helps.
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Thanks,
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Nick Kritselis [MS]
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > --
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
  22. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.games (More info?)

    Hi Howelljo,

    If Pirates of the Caribbean can install on a friends computer
    without problems, then it would have to be something that's
    running on your system which is causing this issue. Are you
    using a regular Windows XP CD, or a customized one?

    Perhaps if you can list all the processes running in Task
    Manager at the time that you are installing the game, we
    can identify the culprit and find a way to eliminate it.

    --
    Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

    Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    _________________________________________________________

    "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:79C546EB-86CC-456C-AD84-CEB715FA408F@microsoft.com...
    |
    |
    | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    |
    | > Hi Howelljo,
    | >
    | > No, it will not conflict as they are separate installations. :-)
    | >
    | > --
    | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    |
    | Hi Jimmy
    |
    | I installed windows onto a spare partition as suggested. The game would not
    | even go beyond the load up screen this time to give me the protection
    | message. All it did was to switch off and i ended up back at the windows
    | screen. However, I did not load up any of my graphics drivers or anything i
    | just tried to run the game from the basic windows load, would that have made
    | any difference?
    | The other thing I have noticed is that when windows first starts to load
    | drivers right at the begining of any set up it loads something called a
    | "Kernel Debugger", would this be what we are looking for?. Alos if I press F8
    | to get to the options screen I also get presented with a "Safe Debugging
    | Mode" do any of thses points help?
    | Look forward to hearing from you
    |
    | Howelljo
    | >
    | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    | > _________________________________________________________
    | >
    | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:E4F6B770-1C0B-46E3-B356-138195CB0E39@microsoft.com...
    | > |
    | > |
    | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    | > |
    | > | > Hi Howell,
    | > | >
    | > | > Do you have an extra partition on your hard drive?
    | > | > If so, please install Windows XP to that 2nd partition
    | > | > and see if the same error occurs. This type of error
    | > | > usually indicates a software issue, however at this point
    | > | > we can't be sure it's not hardware / device driver issue.
    | > | >
    | > | > --
    | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    | > | >
    | > |
    | > | Hi Jimmy
    | > |
    | > | My hard drive is actually divided into 5 partitions. I have a spare
    | > | partition at the moment, but if i install xp onto this spare partition wont
    | > | it conflict with the current installation
    | > |
    | > | Howelljo
    | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    | > | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    | > | > _________________________________________________________
    | > | >
    | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:B7DE2BBE-8920-46F9-93D9-323551975A60@microsoft.com...
    | > | > |
    | > | > |
    | > | > | "Howelljo" wrote:
    | > | > |
    | > | > | > I haven't tried it yet, will do this evening when i get home, should be no
    | > | > | > problem at as i seem to remember i get this option when i've looked at the
    | > | > | > disc in the past
    | > | > | >
    | > | > | > Howelljo
    | > | > | >
    | > | > | > "Jimmy S." wrote:
    | > | > | >
    | > | > | > > Hi Howelljo,
    | > | > | > >
    | > | > | > > Can you perform the steps in this part of the article?
    | > | > | > > http://michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm#RI
    | > | > | > >
    | > | > | > > --
    | > | > | > > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    | > | > | > > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    | > | > | > >
    | > | > | Hi Jimmy
    | > | > |
    | > | > | I performed the repair install this morning and unfortunately I still have
    | > | > | the same problem. This is now getting very fustrating, any other suggestions?
    | > | > |
    | > | > | Howellsjo
    | > | > | > > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    | > | > | > > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    | > | > | > > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    | > | > | > > _________________________________________________________
    | > | > | > >
    | > | > | > > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    | > news:4018E9AE-4033-4398-B8FE-2510F212C5BA@microsoft.com...
    | > | > | > > |
    | > | > | > > |
    | > | > | > > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    | > | > | > > |
    | > | > | > > | > Hi Howelljo,
    | > | > | > > | >
    | > | > | > > | > Ask your IT contact if those scripts even run in Safe Mode.
    | > | > | > > | > If your contact says they do, then the suggestion is quite valid.
    | > | > | > > | > Tell him everything we've tried so far to resolve this issue.
    | > | > | > > | >
    | > | > | > > | > --
    | > | > | > > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    | > | > | > > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    | > | > | > > |
    | > | > | > > | Jimmy
    | > | > | > > |
    | > | > | > > | I tried all this and it still didn't work. I also went to re-install windows
    | > | > | > > | and I found I have another slight problem. The advice sheet you supplied told
    | > | > | > > | me to go to the CMD prompt which I did, unfortunately I don't get the script
    | > | > | > > | i shoud do. It comes up with Family / Documents and Settings as it tells me
    | > | > | > > | that C:\windows|system32 is not a valid file system.
    | > | > | > > | I haven't gone any further with this yet as i need to know how to get around
    | > | > | > > | this part now
    | > | > | > > | >
    | > | > | > > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    | > | > | > > | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    | > | > | > > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    | > | > | > > | > _________________________________________________________
    | > | > | > > | >
    | > | > | > > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    | > | > news:FA572D33-FBDD-4465-A8EB-0AC884302CA5@microsoft.com...
    | > | > | > > | > |
    | > | > | > > | > |
    | > | > | > > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    | > | > | > > | > |
    | > | > | > > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    | > | > | > > | > | >
    | > | > | > > | > | > Here's what we've done to narrow down the culprit:
    | > | > | > > | > | >
    | > | > | > > | > | > 1. We tried another profile;
    | > | > | > > | > | > 2. We tried Safe Mode to rule out any other software (conflicts);
    | > | > | > > | > | > 3. We tried the game on another PC to rule out the game itself;
    | > | > | > > | > | > 4. We ran a complete virus and spyware scan to rule out malware;
    | > | > | > > | > | > 5. We tried all of the MS and "known solutions" for the error ...
    | > | > | > > | > | >
    | > | > | > > | > | > The next logical conclusion is that your current installation is at fault.
    | > | > | > > | > | >
    | > | > | > > | > | >
    | > | > | > > | > | > How To Repair Windows:
    | > | > | > > | > | > Unplug from your Internet connection, and then repair Windows:
    | > | > | > > | > | > using this method: http://michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm
    | > | > | > > | > | >
    | > | > | > > | > | > Afterwards, boot up your system, turn on your XP Internet Firewall,
    | > | > | > > | > | > plug back into your Internet connection and install all Critical and
    | > | > | > > | > | > Recommended updates from: http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com
    | > | > | > > | > | >
    | > | > | > > | > | > --
    | > | > | > > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    | > | > | > > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    | > | > | > > | > | >
    | > | > | > > | > | > Hi Jimmy
    | > | > | > > | > |
    | > | > | > > | > | I will try that as soon as I get home. Some-one in the IT dept at work has
    | > | > | > > | > | also suggested that I look at either my MS Office configuration, as outlook
    | > | > | > > | > | can sometimes run a script process in the background or even the running
    | > | > | > > | > | processes on my Nvidia graphics card as sometimes this can run items in the
    | > | > | > > | > | background. Are either of these suggestions valid?
    | > | > | > > | > |
    | > | > | > > | > | Howelljo
    | > | > | > > | > | > Game FAQs: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=FH;[LN];gms
    | > | > | > > | > | > Visit my Zone.com / Gaming Helpsite: http://nibblesnbits.tk or Call / Contact
    | > | > | > > | > | > MS Support at: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=sz;en-us;top
    | > | > | > > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    | > | > | > > | > | > _________________________________________________________
    | > | > | > > | > | >
    | > | > | > > | > | >
    | > | > | > > | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    | > | > news:D6EA6714-3D0A-49C3-8539-D4F7CB958095@microsoft.com...
    | > | > | > > | > | > |
    | > | > | > > | > | > |
    | > | > | > > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    | > | > | > > | > | > |
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    | > | > | > > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > Lets see if there is a problem with the game's installer by trying to
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > install that game on another Windows XP system to see the results.
    | > | > | > > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > -- Hi Jimmy, just loaded the game onto my works's pc which runs XP Professional and it ran beautifully
    first
    | > time,
    | > | > so
    | > | > | > > it's
    | > | > | > > | > | > obviously something loaded onto my home pc and not the game itself
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    | > | > | > > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
    | > | > | > > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    | > | > | > > news:403BCF2F-9060-461A-85C9-EE71A0DA995D@microsoft.com...
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > There's a couple of additional steps we should explore:
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > 1. In case you have malware on your system which is being detected
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > as a debugger, run a complete AntiVirus and AntiSpyware scan;
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > 2. In case your Profile is corrupt, create a new account on your system
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > with administrator privileges, and try installing PoC using that account.
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > --
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | Hi Jimmy
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | Sorry, no good either. I regulalry check my machine for spyware and viruses
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | and so neither was found. I did create a new profile and exactly the same
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | message came up, so it's not a corrupted profiles. I even made sure that the
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | disable debugging script was checked in the advanced section of internet
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | explorer tool even though i run Firefox on my system. So its back to you I'm
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | afraid
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | Howelljo
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    | > | > | > > | > news:F62F4008-F6F5-4EF8-8010-F5B93211F7F1@microsoft.com...
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > Did you also use all the methods in this MS KB including Clean Boot?
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=812759
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > --
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | Hi Jimmy
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | Yes I tried everything, there is no amdfix.sys file on my system I even
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | tried a wildcard search for AMD. The clean boot made no difference and I do
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | not have the Creative Audigy soundcard installed. I am at a loss at the
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | moment
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | howelljo
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > "Howelljo" <Howelljo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    | > | > | > > | > | > news:85744D49-18FA-48ED-A26E-759F8B238793@microsoft.com...
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > |
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Hi Howelljo,
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Here's what Nick Kritselis from Microsoft suggests ...
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > This can occur if you have the /DEBUG switch in your boot.ini file. Follow
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > these steps to remove the /DEBUG switch:
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > 1) Make sure Windows is set to Show All Files. To view protected operating
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > system files:
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Double-click My Computer.
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > On the Tools menu, click Folder Options.
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Click the View tab.
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Click the "Show hidden files and folders" circle under "Hidden files and
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > folders".
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Click to clear the "Hide extensions for known file types" check box.
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Click to clear the "Hide protected operating system files" check box.
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Click Yes when you are prompted to confirm your choice.
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Click OK.
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > 2) Find boot.ini on C:\
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > 3) Right-click on the file-icon and choose Properties - uncheck the
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Read-Only check box if it is checked, then click OK.
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > 4) Double-click the boot.ini file, you should see text that looks like this:
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > [boot loader]
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > timeout=30
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > [operating systems]
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Professional" /fastdetect /DEBUG
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > 5) Remove the "/DEBUG" listing and any other "/" listings after ""Microsoft
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect" *** WARNING - If you have a multi-boot
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > option, you may show more than one line under "[Operating systems]". Only
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > remove text on the line pertaining to the operating system you are booting
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > to. ***
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > 6) Save the boot.ini file and close all Windows to desktop.
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > 7) Reboot system.
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Hope this helps.
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Thanks,
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Nick Kritselis [MS]
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > --
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | >
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
    | > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
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