Looking to trim down my A10 build. On a budget : /

thecynicalmonk

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So I'm putting together a new system next week and I'm stretching my budget a bit. I'm looking to spend between 600 and 800 but at the moment I'm hitting a grand. One thing I was thinking about trimming down was the RAM...I originally wanted 16 gigs but I was thinking that was a little overkill. I would like to somewhat future proof my builds, but I don't know if 16 gigs would be a little much in a Trinity APU build. My only thought was it would be beneficial to have more RAM because I won't have a dedicated graphics card for about 6 months and I don't want to run into a bottleneck while gaming or multitasking. I really need a monitor and I like to stick to well known brands so I added the Asus. (my last was a 24" Gateway LCD from back in 2008 and the backlight bleeds through a lot compared to newer LCDs). I chose the case because of the size and also to future proof a future build since it supports many mobo sizes.

Without further ado, here's my build:

-PROCESSOR - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113280

-MOBO- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131882

-RAM- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231560

-SSD- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820239045

-CASE- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119160

-PSU- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182132

-MONITOR - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236175

I'm open to any and all suggestions anyone would have! Thanks for reading!


 
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oops, here it would be with a powersupply, dropped the ssd and got a cheaper 1tb hard drive.


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($137.28 @ TigerDirect)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 EXTREME4 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($97.87 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($51.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 650 Ti 1GB Video Card ($143.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Enforcer ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99...

tenaciousk

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How about this

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CPU: AMD A10-5800K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A75 Pro4 ATX FM2 Motherboard ($77.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 922 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($95.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic G 550W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VH232H 23.0" Monitor ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $724.90
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-08 21:16 EST-0500)
 

tenaciousk

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Here is another suggestion for you money.


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 EXTREME4 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($97.87 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($51.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 650 Ti 1GB Video Card ($143.93 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Enforcer ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.98 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VE228H 21.5" Monitor ($132.58 @ Newegg)
Total: $772.32
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-08 21:23 EST-0500)


 

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You left off powersupply
 

tenaciousk

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oops, here it would be with a powersupply, dropped the ssd and got a cheaper 1tb hard drive.


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($137.28 @ TigerDirect)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 EXTREME4 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($97.87 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($51.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 650 Ti 1GB Video Card ($143.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Enforcer ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VE228H 21.5" Monitor ($132.58 @ Newegg)
Total: $799.66
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-08 21:36 EST-0500)
 
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thecynicalmonk

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Thanks for the replies tenaciousk, though u am a little wary of ASRock. I know that they are the little brother of Asus... I've just never bought their boards before and don't know how reliable they are. I try to stay away from the generic variety just because I've always heard you get what you pay for.

Any comments on 16gb of RAM being too much for an a10?
 

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yeah, there really is no reason you would need 16gb ram unless you are doing some pretty extreme video editing or somthing. I have owned a few asrock boards over the years. only problem i ever had was one dead on arrival. But i got sent another and it worked great. The extreme 4 is pretty popular. but best of luck!
 

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Also, wouldn't I be downgrading if I traded an 8 core for a 6?? Jus sayin :p

Wow, I must be an idiot.... The a10 is a quad core... My bad! I may actually go after the FX 6300 build.. Though I still am wary of ASRock as I haven't used them before. Plus I like that the a10 is a newer tech.... Gah! I'm so conflicted ... Help!!! Lol
 

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The a10 cores are practically identical to piledriver cores (fx*3**), in fact I think the fx is slightly newer than the a10 though it doesn't matter a whole lot.
imo the fx would be the better deal because M0AR CO4RS and cache, therefore it is a bit faster. Also having the integrated gpu of the a10 would be a waste once you get a gpu because it would be extra money spent for no gain.
 

thecynicalmonk

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True, so apparently I've been living under a rock because I've never heard of PCPartPicker.... Lol this website is amazing!
I may just make an FX-6300 build and repost.

I'm a little stumped at the RAM choices.. I see all the Intel XMS sticks.... But does AMD have an equivalent?
 

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6300 vs a10 benchmarks
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/675?vs=699

The 6300 has better results.


also the a10 integrated graphics can be compared to about a 6670.
since there are not really any benchmarks on the integrated graphics its the only thing we can compare it to.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/613?vs=680

these are the benchmarks between the 650ti and 6670.

so all in all buying a fx-6300 and a discrete graphics card is going to give much better performance then just the apu itself.
 

thecynicalmonk

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Thank you tenaciousk, I'm marking this thread as solved because you pushed me in the right direction... A newer tech like APU procs had me drooling at the ease and newer architecture... But clearly the performance is still in dedicated CPUs and GPUs.

So I play mainly fantasy games and a few FPS.... last time I checked, NVIDIA was the top dog in GPUs for those game types... Is that still true or would I save money by going ATI?
Thanks Again!
 

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