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7850 should I be getting better performance?

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January 19, 2013 4:03:54 PM

I just got this card today. I don't think I'm bottlenecking because my cpu doesn't reach 100%. My gpu stays at about 50% load. It seems like it is this way with most games I have tried. If I run furmark it maxes out both the gpu and the cpu, but not during games. I was playing the game while open hardware info was open. The cpu only spiked to 100% while the game was loading up then while playing it wasnt running very high. I have the 13.1 drivers right now, but before that I had the 12.11 drivers and had the same problems.

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January 19, 2013 4:13:00 PM

Your A6-3650 is bottlenecking it, planetside is very cpu intense. Try overclocking and see if it helps.
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January 19, 2013 4:13:59 PM

You have a CPU bottleneck as that A6 is not really fast for running games and powerful GPUs. I recommend to start looking at getting a good Phenom II x4 CPU or better and OC it and that will fix the bottleneck.
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January 19, 2013 4:14:02 PM

alt+f to see the framerate in planetside 2. try kicking up your settings for the game. mine are set to low by default (out I have a older card and 3 monitors)
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January 19, 2013 4:14:51 PM

lostmyclan said:
hello my friend in games cpu don´t reach 100% if reach our system gonna be colapsed. your graphic card is fine... only in system stress you use 100% of your graphic card... don´t worry u get a great card.


Well I know, but I mean my card shouldn't be bottlenecking since it's not near 100% right? It doesn't seem to be running as well as it could. Shouldn't the gpu be running more than 55%?
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January 19, 2013 4:17:08 PM

synyst3r1 said:
Well I know, but I mean my card shouldn't be bottlenecking since it's not near 100% right? It doesn't seem to be running as well as it could. Shouldn't the gpu be running more than 55%?

That's not how bottlenecking works, I've run planetside on my system and the same thing happens. You need to upgrade your cpu or overclock it.
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January 19, 2013 4:17:08 PM

shellls45 said:
Your A6-3650 is bottlenecking it, planetside is very cpu intense. Try overclocking and see if it helps.


It really bottlenecks with the cpu cores running that low though? I will try overclocking, but that just seems a bit weird to me. I figured I would have some bottlenecking but not this bad

johnbl said:
alt+f to see the framerate in planetside 2. try kicking up your settings for the game. mine are set to low by default (out I have a older card and 3 monitors)


This is with the settings maxed out. Changing resolution doesn't change the framerate at all either
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January 19, 2013 4:20:01 PM

Planetside needs single threaded performance and the A6 at 2.6ghz doesn't cut it.
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January 19, 2013 4:30:16 PM

What clocks should I go for if I oc and will it make enough of a difference? And should I just use AMD overdrive? All I really care about it getting a pretty solid 60 fps if I can.
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January 19, 2013 4:43:31 PM

A6-3650 passmark CPU score 3350
intel i7 920 @2.67 score 5022
intel core i7-3770 @ 3.5GHx score 9645

you might want to run resource monitor and see if you can see where your bottleneck is. Your CPU is slower than my old i7 920 (network, memory, disk IO, CPU, or graphics card). just check to see if your disk subsystem is maxed out in IO or your netcard is having issues
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January 19, 2013 4:46:17 PM

johnbl said:
A6-3650 passmark CPU score 3350
intel i7 920 @2.67 score 5022
intel core i7-3770 @ 3.5GHx score 9645

you might want to run resource monitor and see if you can see where your bottleneck is. Your CPU is slower than my old i7 920 (network, memory, disk IO, CPU, or graphics card). just check to see if your disk subsystem is maxed out in IO or your netcard is having issues

Passmark doesn't mean anything, its 100% synthetic
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January 19, 2013 7:27:20 PM

I really didn't expect to be bottlenecked this much. Kinda feel like I wasted my money because I didn't want to get a cpu for awhile, but I might have to. Games I could run before with my 7750 run either the same or worse. If I lower any settings it runs worse than my 7750 and if I max out the settings it runs the same. The only positive is I am running higher settings, but no increase in performance really.

Would an AMD A8-3870K be enough to lessen the bottleneck? It's the fastest APU I can get without a new motherboard since I have the fm1 socket. I really don't feel like taking my motherboard out to install it though so idk what I'm gonna do. Plus the fact I have no idea how to install an APU.
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January 19, 2013 7:57:39 PM

Like I said, overclock it... its not that hard. You will get better performance than a stock 3870k
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January 19, 2013 8:02:36 PM

shellls45 said:
Like I said, overclock it... its not that hard. You will get better performance than a stock 3870k


I can't overclock in my bios and overclocking with amd overdrive didn't make a difference.

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I just uninstalled and used driver sweeper then reinstalled the drivers and I am getting a lot better performance. I can actually lower settings and get better framerate now.
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January 20, 2013 1:21:46 PM

Is this a prebuilt system??
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January 20, 2013 2:06:25 PM

shellls45 said:
Passmark doesn't mean anything, its 100% synthetic


I have always found that passmark is very useful in that it can show a person a general indication of where their CPU fits into the realm of available CPUs.
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January 23, 2013 10:43:27 AM

What would be the cheapest cpu/motherboard I could get that wouldn't bottleneck? Would it be possible to get both for less than or equal to around $200? I would love to get an i5 2500k, but idk if I want to spend that much right now.
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January 23, 2013 10:55:32 AM

i have a hard time believing a modern cpu is bottlenecking a 7850 but its possible as the A6 has weak single threaded performance. you might wanna consider upgrading your cpu to intel platform . even an i3 will beat the pants out of an A6 Llano
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January 24, 2013 8:29:58 AM

If I got a motherboard I could overclock with would that lessen the bottleneck enough with my 3650? Also what would be a good cooler that is smaller? Or what if I got something like the AMD Phenom II X4 965?
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January 24, 2013 6:48:08 PM

U could get a 965 or fx 4300 and a decent MOBO for under $200. BTW what psu to u have? And is your current system prebuilt.
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January 24, 2013 7:48:24 PM

shellls45 said:
U could get a 965 or fx 4300 and a decent MOBO for under $200. BTW what psu to u have? And is your current system prebuilt.


Corsair cx600 and yes it is prebuilt
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January 24, 2013 9:13:52 PM

So FX 4300, PII 965, FX 6300 or a core i3 would all work well for your needs.
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January 24, 2013 9:40:23 PM

synyst3r1 said:
I just got this card today. I don't think I'm bottlenecking because my cpu doesn't reach 100%. My gpu stays at about 50% load. It seems like it is this way with most games I have tried. If I run furmark it maxes out both the gpu and the cpu, but not during games. I was playing the game while open hardware info was open. The cpu only spiked to 100% while the game was loading up then while playing it wasnt running very high. I have the 13.1 drivers right now, but before that I had the 12.11 drivers and had the same problems.

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l22/occ31191/screenshot-1.png

hey look, planetside 2, possibly the most graphically intensive game ever?
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January 24, 2013 10:20:34 PM

Have you tried doing a clean driver install with driver sweeper btw?
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January 25, 2013 12:37:34 AM

shellls45 said:
Have you tried doing a clean driver install with driver sweeper btw?


Yes a few days ago and it gave me a 10-15 fps increase which makes planetside 2 playable now. I will look into the three processors you mentioned and figure out what I'm gonna do. Thanks for the help!

Opaz1ka said:
hey look, planetside 2, possibly the most graphically intensive game ever?


Hey look, the point is I'm being bottlenecked which means I should be getting better performance. My gpu is at 55% I could definitely get more than 50fps... Doesn't matter if it is "the most graphically intense game ever". If I had a better cpu I would be able to at least lower the settings and get better performance so it has nothing to do with graphical intensity.
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January 25, 2013 12:43:43 AM

Opaz1ka said:
hey look, planetside 2, possibly the most graphically intensive game ever?

LOL it looks ugly and perform like ass. Also it can't hold a candle to BFBC2
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January 25, 2013 12:47:19 AM

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January 25, 2013 6:42:49 PM

shellls45 said:
So FX 4300, PII 965, FX 6300 or a core i3 would all work well for your needs.


How would the i3 2120 with this mobo http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-Intel-Micro-Motherboards... work? Would the dual core make a big enough difference compared to like a quad core pII 965? I know some people say games like BF3 run better with a quad core but is it a big enough difference to get a quad core
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