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January 19, 2013 7:53:23 PM

Hello, i was wondering which card i should get for my build. The Galaxy GTX 660ti 3gb or the HD 7950 3gb OC edition V2

660: http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...
7950: http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...

I will be playing games like bf3, i like antialiasing and physx so im not sure which way to go, also how is the cooling and everything on this card? Does the 660s 192 bit memory interface make a difference in gaming and video rendering vs the 7950s 384?

so 660ti 3gb 192bit vs 7950 3gb 384bit oc edition v2 for games such as bf3, need for speed most wanted, mw3, black ops 2, assassins creed 3, borderlands 2 and battlefield bad company 3 with also future proofing for as long as possible
a c 151 U Graphics card
January 19, 2013 8:12:55 PM

I have that exact HD7950 and I love it.

As for the battle between HD7950 and GTX660ti, there are arguments for and againts each. I greatly prefer the HD7950 fo its OCing potential, if you search the forum you can find MANY threads discussing the two.

Here are a few.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/382136-33-660ti-sapph...
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/386945-33-testing-met...
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/386998-33-660ti-7950
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/377357-33-660ti-radeo...
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/377683-33-7870-7950

I don't really wanna comment other than giving you the threads, do not want to start a flame war as this topic usually ends in.

Everything we can reply are already in those threads, you will see I am in quite a few of them.

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a b U Graphics card
January 19, 2013 8:26:18 PM
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Performance of the two should be about similar. With some games in the favor of the GTX 660 TI and with som in Radeon 7950.

Overclocking is better on the Radeon 7950, but your warranty will void if you do so in most cases. GTX 660 TI got boost, which Means that the GPU overclocks itself without you in need of doing anything.

Nvidia offers some cool Technologies that AMD doesn't. These Technologies improve Visuals and makes the gameplay smoother. You can check them out below.

Adaptive vsync kills choppy gameplay and microstuttering:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAiPmazmR_M

TXAA best AA in the world:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzOb252sIco

FXAA decent AA with no performance hit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmeNz0NTvFQ

PhysX cool effects:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STi6rNeYZrY

The GTX 660 TI is the most appealing GPU in my book of the two.



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January 19, 2013 8:32:06 PM

lostgamer_03 said:


2922520,3,1360577 said:
Adaptive vsync kills choppy gameplay and microstuttering https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVWgRJvYR2k :
said:


Adaptive vsync sucks and is busted as a 60hz monitor does not display more than 60fps anyway. Old normal Vsync was never busted and so did not need fixing. nvidia is up to there old dirty sales marketing tricks with Adaptive vsync.

lostgamer_03 said:
TXAA best AA in the world: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzOb252sIco :


Sounds like a matter of opinion.
TXAA removes most Aliasing at the cost of decreasing image detail and increasing image blurring. The video you posted clearly shows this.

lostgamer_03 said:
FXAA decent AA with no performance hit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmeNz0NTvFQ :


Once again sounds like a matter of opinion.
Same as TXAA FXAA removes most Aliasing at the cost of decreasing image detail and increasing image blurring.

lostgamer_03 said:
PhysX cool effects: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STi6rNeYZrY :


Physx is in 18 games and most are old and or suck.

http://physxinfo.com/


January 19, 2013 8:37:07 PM

go for a 660ti. I can personally vouch for the card, as I have one. I returned a 7950 due to coil whine and didn't see a difference in FPS, and the coil whine was really bothersome.

A superclocked or OC 660ti is basically a vanilla 670, and has a pretty decent factory overclock. You won't notice a difference in either the 7950 or 660ti, so go for the better looking card and the one which won't have coil whine. The 7950/7970 cards are known to have coil whine, but AMD users just accept it apparently. I couldn't stand it.
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January 19, 2013 8:42:15 PM

Tom Burnqest said:
Adaptive vsync sucks and is busted as a 60hz monitor does not display more than 60fps anyway. Old normal Vsync was never busted and so did not need fixing. nvidia is up to there old dirty sales marketing tricks with Adaptive vsync.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVWgRJvYR2k

TXAA best AA in the world:
TXAA removes most Aliasing at the cost of decreasing image detail and increasing image blurring.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzOb252sIco

FXAA decent AA with no performance hit:
Same as TXAA FXAA removes most Aliasing at the cost of decreasing image detail and increasing image blurring.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmeNz0NTvFQ

PhysX cool effects:
Physx is in 18 games and most are old and or suck.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STi6rNeYZrY

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Seems like you have never experienced ANY of these Technologies. I respect your opinion and pity that you have never gotten to try them, then you might think differently. :) 
January 19, 2013 8:45:06 PM



Seems like you have never experienced ANY of these Technologies. I respect your opinion and pity that you have never gotten to try them, then you might think differently. :) [/quotemsg]
I run an nvidia card and those features are sales gimmicks.
a b U Graphics card
January 19, 2013 8:48:17 PM

jrlk2005 said:
go for a 660ti. I can personally vouch for the card, as I have one. I returned a 7950 due to coil whine and didn't see a difference in FPS, and the coil whine was really bothersome.

A superclocked or OC 660ti is basically a vanilla 670, and has a pretty decent factory overclock. You won't notice a difference in either the 7950 or 660ti, so go for the better looking card and the one which won't have coil whine. The 7950/7970 cards are known to have coil whine, but AMD users just accept it apparently. I couldn't stand it.


It's a great GPU but it's not as close of being a GTX 670 as you might think.

GTX 670 has 32 ROPS where GTX 660 ti got 24

GTX 670 got 256-bit bus Width where GTX 660 ti got 192-bit bus Width.

a b U Graphics card
January 19, 2013 8:49:24 PM

Tom Burnqest said:
Seems like you have never experienced ANY of these Technologies. I respect your opinion and pity that you have never gotten to try them, then you might think differently. :) 

I run an nvidia card and those features are sales gimmicks.[/quotemsg]

Seems to Work great for me and most other people. You might learn something of watching the videos I posted.
January 19, 2013 8:51:29 PM

lostgamer_03 said:
I run an nvidia card and those features are sales gimmicks.


Seems to Work great for me and most other people. You might learn something of watching the videos I posted.[/quotemsg]
I did and it confirmed the fact that FXAA and TXAA removes image detail and clarity to reduce jaggies.
January 19, 2013 8:52:37 PM

Either way, I would give a recommendation for the 660ti over 7950 though. I didn't want to chance returning my 7950 for another one, due to the fact I would probably still have coil whine. Nvidia has been known to suppress coil whine much better, which is a big factor for me. If two competing cards do basically the same thing, I'll take the one which is quieter, and won't sound like telephone wires inside my case
January 19, 2013 8:52:48 PM

lostgamer_03 said:
It's a great GPU but it's not as close of being a GTX 670 as you might think.

GTX 670 has 32 ROPS where GTX 660 ti got 24

GTX 670 got 256-bit bus Width where GTX 660 ti got 192-bit bus Width.


It used to be until nvidia crippled all there new GPUs with that greenlight fiasco. Msi 660ti PE used to OC to same speed as an OCed GTX 680.
January 19, 2013 8:54:17 PM

jrlk2005 said:
Either way, I would give a recommendation for the 660ti over 7950 though. I didn't want to chance returning my 7950 for another one, due to the fact I would probably still have coil whine. Nvidia has been known to suppress coil whine much better, which is a big factor for me. If two competing cards do basically the same thing, I'll take the one which is quieter, and won't sound like telephone wires inside my case

Just because one 7950 might have had coil whine does not mean they all do LOL.
a c 151 U Graphics card
January 19, 2013 9:10:57 PM

jrlk2005 said:
go for a 660ti. I can personally vouch for the card, as I have one. I returned a 7950 due to coil whine and didn't see a difference in FPS, and the coil whine was really bothersome.

A superclocked or OC 660ti is basically a vanilla 670, and has a pretty decent factory overclock. You won't notice a difference in either the 7950 or 660ti, so go for the better looking card and the one which won't have coil whine. The 7950/7970 cards are known to have coil whine, but AMD users just accept it apparently. I couldn't stand it.


Coil whine is manufacturer specific, SAPPHIRE has NEVER had coil whine.

AND a vanilla GTX670??? With a 192 bit memory bus? SUUUURE... LOL Its IMPOSSIBLE. It would never match a vanilla GTX670 in AA or multiple screen setup.
January 19, 2013 9:13:50 PM

The likelihood of getting one with coil whine is greater though vs. a 660ti. Just do a search for coil whine, 7950/7970.
a c 151 U Graphics card
January 19, 2013 9:14:08 PM

TheNachoman180 said:
Hello, i was wondering which card i should get for my build. The Galaxy GTX 660ti 3gb or the HD 7950 3gb OC edition V2

660: http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...
7950: http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...

I will be playing games like bf3, i like antialiasing and physx so im not sure which way to go, also how is the cooling and everything on this card? Does the 660s 192 bit memory interface make a difference in gaming and video rendering vs the 7950s 384?

so 660ti 3gb 192bit vs 7950 3gb 384bit oc edition v2 for games such as bf3, need for speed most wanted, mw3, black ops 2, assassins creed 3, borderlands 2 and battlefield bad company 3 with also future proofing for as long as possible


Told you this would be a flamewar... LOL ends in fanboys just raging.

The cards are VERY similar.

If you OC, hands down the HD7950, if not, then its a toss up...
January 19, 2013 9:15:59 PM

jrlk2005 said:
The likelihood of getting one with coil whine is greater though vs. a 660ti. Just do a search for coil whine, 7950/7970.

Just as many nvidia cards exhibit coil whine as do AMD. It's largely an isolated issue.
January 19, 2013 9:29:08 PM

No offense, but with cards of this caliber, OC is just for epeen. OP, just get whichever you feel comfortable with, and you'll have a great card which will slaughter almost everything.

Also, if you go the 660ti route, I recommend the card I have. It's superclocked, 3gb, and has a backplate. Plus EVGA includes a few goodies. Nice case badge, good overclocking program (precision x) and has a better overall fit and finish.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

Tom, I've had many Nvidia cards without coil whine. Maybe its my first experience with an 7950 which turned me off due to coil whine, and the fact many others seemed to be experiencing it too which made me have a bias.
a c 151 U Graphics card
January 19, 2013 9:53:59 PM

jrlk2005 said:
No offense, but with cards of this caliber, OC is just for epeen. OP, just get whichever you feel comfortable with, and you'll have a great card which will slaughter almost everything.

Also, if you go the 660ti route, I recommend the card I have. It's superclocked, 3gb, and has a backplate. Plus EVGA includes a few goodies. Nice case badge, good overclocking program (precision x) and has a better overall fit and finish.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

Tom, I've had many Nvidia cards without coil whine. Maybe its my first experience with an 7950 which turned me off due to coil whine, and the fact many others seemed to be experiencing it too which made me have a bias.


LOL I disagree that OC is for "epeen", there are many games that can challenge this class of card at HD res. For one, farcry 3 when it first released. Probably Crysis 3 when it releases , and soon there will be many more, THAT is when OC is not "epeen".

Precision X is pointless since you can use MSI afterburner ON ANY card and its the best OV program there is.


a c 151 U Graphics card
January 19, 2013 9:55:37 PM

jrlk2005 said:
The likelihood of getting one with coil whine is greater though vs. a 660ti. Just do a search for coil whine, 7950/7970.


Like I said, manufacturer SPECIFIC! Windforce and reference design are THE ONLY ones I have seen with this issue.
January 20, 2013 6:40:10 AM

D: FLAMEWAR ON MY THREAD lol. I think i will go with the galaxy gtx 660ti 3gb. I dont really need 256 bit like the 670 because i am only running one 1920x1080 monitor and wont be using any fancy aa injectors. Thanks for your feedback guys! I love adaptive VSYNC!
January 20, 2013 6:40:48 AM

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