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January 21, 2013 1:58:46 PM

System specs:
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) 2 Quad CPU Q6600 @2.40 GHz
Mainboard: Benicia / manufacturer: Pegatron Corporation
RAM: 4 GB
Video card: Nvidia GeForce 9600 GS
DirectX: 10
OS: Windows Vista Home Premium Service pack 2 (64 bit)
Computer case: Hp pavillion

Ok guys, I bought this pc in december 2007 and it was SUPER powerful back then. Now it's old but I don't want to change it.
I play a lot of games and i haven't had many problems. I can run Skyrim, dishonored, syndicate, batman arkham city, borderlands 2, etc. all of them at high settings. :sol: 

Obviously I can't run Far cry 3. :fou: 

I only want to change video cardand I saw that there are some good cards at a "low" price.

Which one should i buy? :??: 

AMD radeon 7970 HD
AMD radeon 7870 HD
Nvidia GeForce GTX 460
Nvidia GeForce GTX 480
Nvidia GeForce GTX 560

What's the best price-performance card?

Thanks in advance.

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a b U Graphics card
January 21, 2013 2:12:36 PM

If you're not planning on upgrading your platform, I'd suggest nothing more than the 7870. You will see a CPU bottleneck though (you'll see bottleneck with any of those cards depending on the game tbh) but you could reduce it by overclocking the Q6600.
January 21, 2013 2:15:24 PM

Get the GeForce GTX 660 Ti ($245) or the Radeon HD 7870 ($255).
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January 21, 2013 2:17:15 PM

7870, or the 660ti.. you will see bottlenecking.
a b U Graphics card
January 21, 2013 2:18:01 PM

hammereditor said:
Get the GeForce GTX 660 Ti ($245) or the Radeon HD 7870 ($255).


Where did you find a 660ti at $245? And most 7870s are $230-240 now.
January 21, 2013 2:20:46 PM

hammereditor said:
Get the GeForce GTX 660 Ti ($245) or the Radeon HD 7870 ($255).


Wow! is the GeForce GTX 660 Ti THAT cheap? I mean, it can run A LOT of high-end games at 60+ FPS!
January 21, 2013 2:22:15 PM

techbaddie said:
7870, or the 660ti.. you will see bottlenecking.


I'm not an expert, but why will I see bottlenecking? My processor is not bad
a b U Graphics card
January 21, 2013 2:23:42 PM

^ I only see GTX 660 Ti's for right around $300... But anyway the GTX 660 is comparable to the 7870, the GTX 660 Ti is comparable to the AMD 7950... But anyway for your system i would suggest getting either the GTX 660(~$210) or AMD 7870(~$230). The AMD 7870 will give about ~5% better FPS, but the GTX 660 has more features like Adaptive vsync, Physx, 3d vision, as well as having lower frame latency (very slightly smoother gameplay).
a b U Graphics card
January 21, 2013 2:26:01 PM

hugemetalfan said:
I'm not an expert, but why will I see bottlenecking? My processor is not bad


In games that are more CPU bound and does not utilize more than 2 cores (ie. most games), your CPU will bottleneck any cards you listed earlier.
a b U Graphics card
January 21, 2013 2:26:17 PM

In newer games your CPU will not be able to process the information fast enough to allow your GPU to use its full potential there for reducing your FPS. Some games you won't have this issue but for most you will especially online multi-player games.
a c 230 U Graphics card
January 21, 2013 2:26:19 PM

Given the age of the system, a 560 Ti would do just fine, it is the most popular DX11 card ever produced, currently holding 5.43% of the market share.

The DCII TOP at $189 is a pert good buy (includes Duke Nukem coupon)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If ya want to move this card later to a newer system, then I'd look at the 660 Ti and the 7950

Radeon 7950 (HardwareInfo.com)

AvP High 4AA 56.1 fps
Batman AC Very High 4AA 66.0
BF3 Ultra High 4AA 48.0
Crysis 2 Ultra High Edge AA 50.3
Dirt 3 Ultra 4AA 73.9
Hard Reset Ultra 4AA 69.1
Metro 2033 Very High 32.0
Skyrim High 4AA 94.0
Shogun 2 Ultra 4AA 41.0

Total FPS 530.4 fps
Cost Per Frame $0.57

GTX 660 Ti (HardwareInfo.com)

AvP High 4AA 44.9 fps
Batman AC Very High 4AA 68.0
BF3 Ultra High 4AA 52.0
Crysis 2 Ultra High Edge AA 60.8
Dirt 3 Ultra 4AA 97.2
Hard Reset Ultra 4AA 81.3
Metro 2033 Very High 24.0
Skyrim High 4AA 87.3
Shogun 2 Ultra 4AA 50.5

Total FPS 566.0 fps
Cost Per Frame $0.48
January 21, 2013 2:26:52 PM

Derza10 said:
^ I only see GTX 660 Ti's for right around $300... But anyway the GTX 660 is comparable to the 7870, the GTX 660 Ti is comparable to the AMD 7950... But anyway for your system i would suggest getting either the GTX 660(~$210) or AMD 7870(~$230). The AMD 7870 will give about ~5% better FPS, but the GTX 660 has more features like Adaptive vsync, Physx, 3d vision, as well as having lower frame latency (very slightly smoother gameplay).


Wait... only a 5% fps increase if I upgrade my 9600 GS to a GTX 660 ti?
January 21, 2013 2:29:07 PM

EzioAs said:
In games that are more CPU bound and does not utilize more than 2 cores (ie. most games), your CPU will bottleneck any cards you listed earlier.


And games like Farcry 3 (more gpu bound)?
a c 82 U Graphics card
January 21, 2013 2:29:33 PM

whats ur budget for a new videocard+ps ud prob need a ps upgrade tbh.

a b U Graphics card
January 21, 2013 2:29:43 PM

hugemetalfan said:
Wait... only a 5% fps increase if I upgrade my 9600 GS to a GTX 660 ti?


No. I'm pretty sure he meant the HD7870 over the GTX660
a b U Graphics card
January 21, 2013 2:31:59 PM

hugemetalfan said:
And games like Farcry 3 (more gpu bound)?


You will see better performance improvements than games that are more CPU bound
January 21, 2013 2:32:01 PM

JackNaylorPE said:
Given the age of the system, a 560 Ti would do just fine, it is the most popular DX11 card ever produced, currently holding 5.43% of the market share.

The DCII TOP at $189 is a pert good buy (includes Duke Nukem coupon)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If ya want to move this card later to a newer system, then I'd look at the 660 Ti and the 7950



Thanks for your answer, but will I get those high framerates if I change my 9600 gs with one of those?
a c 82 U Graphics card
January 21, 2013 2:32:52 PM

yes. but u also need a new powersupply. ur 300 watt is inefficient and lowquality from hp.

January 21, 2013 2:33:56 PM

iceclock said:
whats ur budget for a new videocard+ps ud prob need a ps upgrade tbh.


yeah, my ps is kinda weak, and i'm saving money, so I want to chose the cheapest/best performance video card
a b U Graphics card
January 21, 2013 2:34:08 PM

hugemetalfan said:
Wait... only a 5% fps increase if I upgrade my 9600 GS to a GTX 660 ti?


Lol no, I meant the 7870 vs the GTX 660... You will see a huge FPS increase switching to either card (as long as your CPU allows it).
a c 82 U Graphics card
January 21, 2013 2:35:11 PM

so whats ur budget for ps+videocard and i can recommand what u can afford.

January 21, 2013 2:35:11 PM

raheel167 said:
7870 is 5% better than 660.


oh ok :na:  that changes everything
January 21, 2013 2:36:14 PM

Derza10 said:
Lol no, I meant the 7870 vs the GTX 660... You will see a huge FPS increase switching to either card (as long as your CPU allows it).


Ok :sweat:  that changes everything. but the question is, will my cpu allow it?
a c 82 U Graphics card
January 21, 2013 2:37:04 PM

yes, it will, question whats ur maximum upgrade budget?

January 21, 2013 2:38:56 PM

iceclock said:
yes, it will, question whats ur maximum upgrade budget?


I said I'm saving money, so i'm gonna buy the video card with the best "cheapest-best performance ratio"
a b U Graphics card
January 21, 2013 2:39:33 PM

Like others have said your CPU will be your limiting factor, so unless you plan to upgrade the rest of your system in the near future I wouldn't recommend getting any GPU faster than a GTX 660 or AMD 7870.
a c 82 U Graphics card
January 21, 2013 2:40:58 PM

i still need ur budget. to know what i can recommand for u?

January 21, 2013 2:44:54 PM

Derza10 said:
Like others have said your CPU will be your limiting factor, so unless you plan to upgrade the rest of your system in the near future I wouldn't recommend getting any GPU faster than a GTX 660 or AMD 7870.


I wouldn't have bought anything faster than the GTX 660. Anyway, thanks for your answer
January 21, 2013 2:45:40 PM

iceclock said:
i still need ur budget. to know what i can recommand for u?


let's say i'll save 500/600 €
a c 82 U Graphics card
January 21, 2013 2:57:02 PM

for that price i can build u a new pc. ur shur u dont want a new pc :D 

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