Best GTX 670?

[andiedee]

Been on the look on the MSI 670 PE but i heard that they stuffed up the overvoltage on it or something like that? any thoughts?

 

[Novuake]

They did. But this was months ago and have sent out the revised version.

It really is a good version for the price.

BUT the HD7970 will give you better performance at that price if you don't mind AMD.

 

[darth pravus]

DCUII by Asus is the best 670 for temps and noise and overclocking is a lottery.

MSI were caught with crazy overvoltage but they should have recalled those GPU's. Don't know the exact detail though

 

[andiedee]

Yes I am aware of that but I'm just really confused between that because I like physX a lot but 7970 are just so powerful and cheap :/

Idk to be honest it's a hard pick ...

 

[darth pravus]

That's everyones choice. I liked physX and adative vsync and the 670 fitted my needs.

Each to his own. When all is overclocked the top end doesn't have that much variation to be honest.

 

[maestro0428]

I prefer MSi cards when using Nvidia because I like their coolers. They are quiet even when under load. I still think of physx as marketing, but if you really want it, I would stick with the 670 over the 7970.

 

[JackNaylorPE]

670 TOP (10.0 Rating)*
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_670_Direct_Cu_II/33.html

* In early production runs, Asus was handpicking the GPU's but as the line matured and yields improved, the hand picking was no longer necessary. As with any component, your mileage may vary but I have always had good luck with the DCII cards. Based upon the reviews, 30% is certainly doable

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/asus_geforce_gtx_670_directcu_ii_top_review,23.html
http://www.pureoverclock.com/Review-detail/asus-gtx-560-ti-directcu-ii-top/17/

but I usually go very conservatively on the voltage and can usually get about 20% w/ no voltage tweak and usually don't try for more than 25%.

7970 GHz (8.5 rating)
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/HD_7970_GHz_Edition/33.html

Was lotta talk about AMD's drivers making the 7970 get all sorts of good numbers after the techpowerup article but that article compared AMD's new drivers, with nVidia's 2 generation old ones.

I do like the 7970 in 3 screen and it scaled better w/ 2 cards setups at least in early tests. I have found this site valuable as it offers test results at up to 5760 x 1080.

http://uk.hardware.info/reviews/2725/8/nvidia-geforce-gtx-670-review-plus-sli-and-3-way-sli-aliens-versus-predator

Hardware Info 670 670 SLI-2
AvP High 4AA 56.9 105.6
Batman AC Very High 4AA 84.0 95.0
BF3 Ultra High 4AA 61.0 105.0
Crysis 2 Ultra High Edge AA 68.3 98.7
Dirt 3 Ultra 4AA 105.5 157.1
Hard Reset Ultra 4AA 84.4 116.9
Metro 2033 Very High 30.0 50.0
Skyrim High 4AA 108.0 185.0
Shogun 2 Ultra 4AA 52.1 66.8
Total FPS 650.2 980.1
Cost Per Frame $0.55 $0.73

Hardware Info 7970 7970 CF-2
AvP High 4AA 66.8 122.8
Batman AC Very High 4AA 70.0 71.0
BF3 Ultra High 4AA 57.0 94.0
Crysis 2 Ultra High Edge AA 59.0 94.9
Dirt 3 Ultra 4AA 91.6 166.6
Hard Reset Ultra 4AA 82.4 122.5
Metro 2033 Very High 36.0 64.0
Skyrim High 4AA 109.0 192.0
Shogun 2 Ultra 4AA 58.0 99.0
Total FPS 629.8 1026.8
Cost Per Frame $0.64 $0.78

Other issues to consider:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-8350-core-i7-3770k-gaming-bottleneck,3407-9.html

Our benchmark results have long shown that ATI's graphics architectures are more dependent on a strong processor than Nvidia's.

http://techreport.com/review/23981/radeon-hd-7950-vs-geforce-gtx-660-ti-revisited/11

I find nVidia cards offer the best bang for the buck from about the $250 category and up and the AMD cards preferable from there down.

 

[darth pravus]

I had a 560ti twin frozr and it was pretty quiet even when overclock but I kid you not this Asus 670 is silent at all times and has never broken 60 degrees.

I found the fans on MSI to be high pitched in its fan tone. The Asus is much lower and softer in tone when put to max. I can only hear the fan when set to 65% up.

 

[andiedee]

Yes agreed Msi are really good at what they do.. But the question is would I still run physX with the 7970, with a 3770 non k will I get atleast 40fps ? On high or medium physX ?

 

[darth pravus]

Very good Cost per FPS table. Put's how close these things are into perspective and it's best to just buy a top end card regardless which one.

The 670 still gets my vote. CPU physX is awful. an i7 won't help over an i5.

Better off getting an i5 and overclocking it but don't use physX with an AMD card.

 

[andiedee]

Mmm the Msi got the same fps as the top in the over clocking articles .. I might go with the Msi

 

[Novuake]

DCUII by Asus is the best 670 for temps and noise and overclocking is a lottery.

MSI were caught with crazy overvoltage but they should have recalled those GPU's. Don't know the exact detail though

The PE cards were never recalled, but they are still covered under warranty.

 

[darth pravus]

Be interesting to see if those cards die any time soon. At least the warranty holds up and those guys get great overclockers.

 

[Novuake]

Yes I am aware of that but I'm just really confused between that because I like physX a lot but 7970 are just so powerful and cheap :/

Idk to be honest it's a hard pick ...

Very few games use physX unfortunately. If you are interested in OCing, then the AMD HD7970 is a must, it can be OC'd past the HD7970 GHz Ed and GTX680.

If you are not so much into overclocking. Then the GTX670 looks a bit better. But not much.

The HD7970 is just so cheap for what it can do and the OCing potential.

 

[Novuake]

Be interesting to see if those cards die any time soon. At least the warranty holds up and those guys get great overclockers.

I have seen MANY of these being RMA'd where the GPU is just dead. One of my co workers did not even OC his and it died. So yeah, horrible trade-off for a possible great OCing card.

 

[andiedee]

So you're saying in at least 6 months time those cards will be still faulty?

 

[scibuff]

I'm gonna get EVGA FTW Signature II but mostly because the PCB is based on GTX 680 so it will be easier to get a waterblock for it (i.e. GTX 680 waterblock will fit)

To be honest, the different between ASUS, EVGA, Gigabyta, MSI, Zotac is minimal.

 

[Novuake]

So you're saying in at least 6 months time those cards will be still faulty?

No no. I believe places that have a high turnover of products, like Newegg, will definitely have the newer revised version without issues. So do not worry too much about buying MSI Power Edition cards now, but they won't OC like in the original reviews. They still have great coolers though.

But yeah, I don't trust MSI anymore unfortunately.

 

[Naxirian]

Yes I am aware of that but I'm just really confused between that because I like physX a lot but 7970 are just so powerful and cheap :/

Idk to be honest it's a hard pick ...

I know this is an old thread but a 7970 will not give better performance in most games. The only game it really outshines the GTX 670 is Metro. In almost all other games, the GTX 670 will give superior framerates.