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Hello all,
I recently rescued an old and beautiful Pioneer CT-F1250 cassette
deck from a friend's trash heap! It was in great shape but
appears to need some work to bring it back up to spec again.
Most seriously, there is a large power resistor (7W, 12ohms) on
a vertical board that overheats (to the point of smoking!). I believe
this may be related to the quartz lock circuitry, because it only
happens during playback and record, and the circuit board has
one section that is labelled "pulse count". The second
issue that it seems to have is that the tape calibration doesn't
seem very stable -- the ideal setting for each knob
(bias/level/eq) seems to fluctuate over time, even over the course
of a calibration run.
Can anyone offer any hints and tips in troublehsooting and repairing
one of these grand decks? Or possibly someone willing to share a copy of
the service manual? It is in fantastic shape and I'd hate to
see it go to waste!
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leemichaelb@yahoo.com (Mike Lee) wrote in
news5386fa.0406281006.2e89ad1e@posting.google.com:
> Hello all,
> I recently rescued an old and beautiful Pioneer CT-F1250 cassette
> deck from a friend's trash heap! It was in great shape but
> appears to need some work to bring it back up to spec again.
> Most seriously, there is a large power resistor (7W, 12ohms) on
> a vertical board that overheats (to the point of smoking!). I believe
> this may be related to the quartz lock circuitry, because it only
> happens during playback and record, and the circuit board has
> one section that is labelled "pulse count". The second
> issue that it seems to have is that the tape calibration doesn't
> seem very stable -- the ideal setting for each knob
> (bias/level/eq) seems to fluctuate over time, even over the course
> of a calibration run.
>
> Can anyone offer any hints and tips in troublehsooting and repairing
> one of these grand decks? Or possibly someone willing to share a copy of
> the service manual? It is in fantastic shape and I'd hate to
> see it go to waste!
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Mike
>
Have you checked the motor ? If it's faulty and drawing heaps of current,
you should be able to feel it getting warm.
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Except if it's really shorted, the resistor mentioned is toast long before
the motor gets hot. One could just disconnect the motor and see if the
resistor stops heating up.
Mark Z.
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"Nigel" <Nigel@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> leemichaelb@yahoo.com (Mike Lee) wrote in
> news5386fa.0406281006.2e89ad1e@posting.google.com:
>
> > Hello all,
> > I recently rescued an old and beautiful Pioneer CT-F1250 cassette
> > deck from a friend's trash heap! It was in great shape but
> > appears to need some work to bring it back up to spec again.
> > Most seriously, there is a large power resistor (7W, 12ohms) on
> > a vertical board that overheats (to the point of smoking!). I believe
> > this may be related to the quartz lock circuitry, because it only
> > happens during playback and record, and the circuit board has
> > one section that is labelled "pulse count". The second
> > issue that it seems to have is that the tape calibration doesn't
> > seem very stable -- the ideal setting for each knob
> > (bias/level/eq) seems to fluctuate over time, even over the course
> > of a calibration run.
> >
> > Can anyone offer any hints and tips in troublehsooting and repairing
> > one of these grand decks? Or possibly someone willing to share a copy
of
> > the service manual? It is in fantastic shape and I'd hate to
> > see it go to waste!
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Mike
> >
>
>
> Have you checked the motor ? If it's faulty and drawing heaps of current,
> you should be able to feel it getting warm.
>
>
>
>
> --
> http://www.ratestogo.com/guest.asp?id=746183
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I have 2 even older pioneers -a ctf-1000 (3 head, blue flourescent VU
meters) and a ctf 9191 (I think those are the models, dont have them
nearby). In the former, the motor driving the spools was faulty and in
the latter the play solenoid drew too much current and blew a
transistor in its feed. Dont have a service manual unfortunately. Not
familiar with your model. Sounds like a nice bit of kit. Does it have
the blue meters also?
Good luck Ben
leemichaelb@yahoo.com (Mike Lee) wrote in message news:<d5386fa.0406281006.2e89ad1e@posting.google.com>...
> Hello all,
> I recently rescued an old and beautiful Pioneer CT-F1250 cassette
> deck from a friend's trash heap! It was in great shape but
> appears to need some work to bring it back up to spec again.
> Most seriously, there is a large power resistor (7W, 12ohms) on
> a vertical board that overheats (to the point of smoking!). I believe
> this may be related to the quartz lock circuitry, because it only
> happens during playback and record, and the circuit board has
> one section that is labelled "pulse count". The second
> issue that it seems to have is that the tape calibration doesn't
> seem very stable -- the ideal setting for each knob
> (bias/level/eq) seems to fluctuate over time, even over the course
> of a calibration run.
>
> Can anyone offer any hints and tips in troublehsooting and repairing
> one of these grand decks? Or possibly someone willing to share a copy of
> the service manual? It is in fantastic shape and I'd hate to
> see it go to waste!
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Mike
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Thanks both of you for the feedback. I will try disconnecting the
motor and
seeing what happens. Strangely, though, I'm fairly certain that the
resistor
heats up only during playback and record ... and since the capstans
are always turning, and the hubs turn for all transport modes
including FF and RW, it doesn't seem likely that the motor would be at
fault. But I will try it anyway, and post back here with the
results...
"Mark D. Zacharias" <mzacharias@yis.us> wrote in message news:<2kcshmFpnvvU1@uni-berlin.de>...
> Except if it's really shorted, the resistor mentioned is toast long before
> the motor gets hot. One could just disconnect the motor and see if the
> resistor stops heating up.
>
> Mark Z.
>
> --
> Please reply only to Group. I regret this is necessary. Viruses and spam
> have rendered my regular e-mail address useless.
>
>
> "Nigel" <Nigel@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:7n7Ec.5350$NA1.489618@news02.tsnz.net...
> > leemichaelb@yahoo.com (Mike Lee) wrote in
> > news5386fa.0406281006.2e89ad1e@posting.google.com:
> >
> > > Hello all,
> > > I recently rescued an old and beautiful Pioneer CT-F1250 cassette
> > > deck from a friend's trash heap! It was in great shape but
> > > appears to need some work to bring it back up to spec again.
> > > Most seriously, there is a large power resistor (7W, 12ohms) on
> > > a vertical board that overheats (to the point of smoking!). I believe
> > > this may be related to the quartz lock circuitry, because it only
> > > happens during playback and record, and the circuit board has
> > > one section that is labelled "pulse count". The second
> > > issue that it seems to have is that the tape calibration doesn't
> > > seem very stable -- the ideal setting for each knob
> > > (bias/level/eq) seems to fluctuate over time, even over the course
> > > of a calibration run.
> > >
> > > Can anyone offer any hints and tips in troublehsooting and repairing
> > > one of these grand decks? Or possibly someone willing to share a copy
> of
> > > the service manual? It is in fantastic shape and I'd hate to
> > > see it go to waste!
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > > Mike
> > >
> >
> >
> > Have you checked the motor ? If it's faulty and drawing heaps of current,
> > you should be able to feel it getting warm.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > http://www.ratestogo.com/guest.asp?id=746183
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Silver pioneer website? sounds like I need to take a look there!
Could you possibly post the URL?
cheers, Ben
leemichaelb@yahoo.com (Mike Lee) wrote in message news:<d5386fa.0406300410.84e5c89@posting.google.com>...
> Yup, it does have the blue meters. According to the silver pioneer
> website,
> ths was their flagship deck in 79 and 80 (snip)
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If you're still interested, that resistor is in the pinch roller solenoid
ckt. There should be a transistor wired in parallel to that resistor which
is turned on for a short time when the solenoid activates to give a current
boost to pull the plunger in. When the transistor is off the resistor is in
series with the drive transistor and the solenoid. Could be the boost
transistor is open leaving the "hold" ckt to pull in the solenoid. If the
pinch roller isn't getting enough tension against the capstan that could
explain your other problem. Or it could be a worn head.
tw
"Mike Lee" <leemichaelb@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Hello all,
> I recently rescued an old and beautiful Pioneer CT-F1250 cassette
> deck from a friend's trash heap! It was in great shape but
> appears to need some work to bring it back up to spec again.
> Most seriously, there is a large power resistor (7W, 12ohms) on
> a vertical board that overheats (to the point of smoking!). I believe
> this may be related to the quartz lock circuitry, because it only
> happens during playback and record, and the circuit board has
> one section that is labelled "pulse count". The second
> issue that it seems to have is that the tape calibration doesn't
> seem very stable -- the ideal setting for each knob
> (bias/level/eq) seems to fluctuate over time, even over the course
> of a calibration run.
>
> Can anyone offer any hints and tips in troublehsooting and repairing
> one of these grand decks? Or possibly someone willing to share a copy of
> the service manual? It is in fantastic shape and I'd hate to
> see it go to waste!
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Mike
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