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January 26, 2013 12:25:04 AM

Hey guys,

It's been a year since I have really looked into my computer and I need to upgrade my Video card! When I last was looking at video cards, nvidia was on top. I am not sure how the game has changed...


Currently I have an i7, msi5850 OC, 6gb Ram, 850 antec truepower supply.


I am looking to run 3 monitors, and maybe play some BF3 here and there! I do some editing in the Adobe suite.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submi...|14-500-238^14-500-238-TS%2C14-130-768^14-130-768-TS%2C14-127-671^14-127-671-TS%2C14-133-469^14-133-469-TS

This is the compare list (everything looks exactly the same to me), budget is $500!

Thanks in advance!

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January 26, 2013 12:29:08 AM

Technically AMD is on top with their 7970 GHz edition / 7990 (custom models only) but AMD and Nvidia have been very close this round.
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January 26, 2013 12:36:47 AM

I am a little scared about AMD ( I am guessing AMD owns ATi now?). My MSI 5850, gave me a lot of trouble and was super buggy on dual monitors. When you say 7970 is on top this round, what are you comparing that to?
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January 26, 2013 12:38:30 AM

If you're into editing, and with adobe, you might want a nvidia card, with the cuda support being better.
For gaming the 7970 ghz edition is slightly better.
As for the cards in question, for triple monitor, it might not be suffice, for some games, but if you have to choose one of those, i'd pick the evga one.
If your priority is gaming, then a 7970 ghz like the sapphire vapor-x might be better for you.
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January 26, 2013 12:40:39 AM

I wouldn't want to game with triple monitors, I do need triple for work. Would any of those cards suffice in that aspect?

Thanks for the replies.
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January 26, 2013 12:43:05 AM

Remember that it is amd. What do you mean by on top though? You can get a video card from amd (the 7970) that is the same strength, maybe a little weaker that those nvidia ones for $380 righ now. There is also the 7970 ghz edition. which according to tomshardware gpu hierarchy, is stronger than a 680.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-car...
You can still get one of those for decently cheaper than a 680.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Then there is this
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/389208-33-7950-faster...
According to overclock3d.net, they were able to get a 7950 past a 680. Look at the review. I am not saying every 7950 can oc that well, but the fact that some can, is amazing. So I think amd is way better atm.
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January 26, 2013 12:47:54 AM

the 7970 and 680 trade blows until you go with aftermarket coolers and overclock,after that the 7970 takes off from the 680. Also the 3gb of vram will be much better for multiple monitors. the 7990 is also faster than the 690 but is also louder and draws more power. that can be taken care of with custom watercooling. It depends what you need really. if your running a tri monitor setup and dont plan to game very hard than a 7950 or a 660ti should do the trick .With my 660ti i contantly get over 70 fps on ultra with aa off at 1080p on bf3 ,But the 7950s extra gb of vram will help if you do ever decide to game on 3 monitors.
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January 26, 2013 12:52:47 AM

For a single monitor any of those card will be suffice, if you're into editing, nvidia cards are better.
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January 26, 2013 12:54:52 AM

If you're using adobe I would consider an Nvidia card over it. Also, if you choose an AMD card you will need to purchase an active displayport adapter to support 3 monitors if the card does not come with it. +$20 to that purchase. If that doesn't matter, I'd still go with Nvidia for your needs although I'd prefer a 7970 for straight gaming/price
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January 26, 2013 12:58:16 AM

As the others have stated, nvidia cards have cuda cores adobe takes advantage over and they would be better for editing projects,But the 7970 will deliver more fps for your dollar in games.
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January 26, 2013 1:02:51 AM

the 78XX and 79XX Radeon lineup this go around is in general much better price/performance cards compared to any NVidea 6XX or 5XX card available... with the lone exception of the 660ti (which lands squarely between the 7870 and 7950 in both price and performance)

Additionally, the 7970 is slightly faster then the 680 (and $150 cheaper), the 7950 overclocked is almost as fast (sometimes even faster) then the 680 and $300 cheaper... and the 7990 or 2 xfired 7970 are slightly faster then the 690 (and about $200 less), which means that on the top end of the GPU spectrum AMD/ATI has pretty much wrapped up this round in the battle.

That said, it IS just this round... and we'll see what 2013 brings.
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January 26, 2013 1:03:41 AM

So doing a little research, look like you can over clock this one pretty well: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SAPPHIRE FleX 100352FLEX-2 Radeon HD 7950 3GB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card OC with Boost

What do you guys think?

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January 26, 2013 1:10:39 AM

In my opinion since you're into editing a 670 gtx is the best choice.
We could speculate that a 7950 could reach the level of a 670 gtx, but fact is both in stock speeds the 670 gtx is better.
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January 26, 2013 3:05:55 AM

Yeah, since you do editing, nvidia is the best choice. Even though amd cards are better for gaming right now.
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January 29, 2013 12:26:27 AM

Alright everyone, thanks for the info! I have decided to go with a NIVIDA FOR SURE. Now I am debating on a 4gb 670 or a 4gb 680... I was going to do a 690... but then I realized each GPU only gets 2 gb, so that's not gonna work with a 3 monitor setup.

Can anyone point me directly (with a link) to the best brand to get?
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January 29, 2013 1:20:32 AM

refbois said:
Hey guys,

It's been a year since I have really looked into my computer and I need to upgrade my Video card! When I last was looking at video cards, nvidia was on top. I am not sure how the game has changed...


Currently I have an i7, msi5850 OC, 6gb Ram, 850 antec truepower supply.


I am looking to run 3 monitors, and maybe play some BF3 here and there! I do some editing in the Adobe suite.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submi...|14-500-238^14-500-238-TS%2C14-130-768^14-130-768-TS%2C14-127-671^14-127-671-TS%2C14-133-469^14-133-469-TS

This is the compare list (everything looks exactly the same to me), budget is $500!

Thanks in advance!


well nvidia 690 smokes the 7990 and the 680 smokes the 7970 but soon amd will release new gpus and nvidia around april so you could wait or get maybe a 670 as they are best bang for buck or a 680 if you can afford it i recommend the msi 680 lightning
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January 29, 2013 2:10:07 AM

Kingtr011 said:
well nvidia 690 smokes the 7990 and the 680 smokes the 7970 but soon amd will release new gpus and nvidia around april so you could wait or get maybe a 670 as they are best bang for buck or a 680 if you can afford it i recommend the msi 680 lightning

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7990-devi...
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January 29, 2013 2:13:47 AM

Nvidia. Quality. Price. Performance. Features.
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January 29, 2013 2:45:55 AM

Kingtr011 said:
well nvidia 690 smokes the 7990 and the 680 smokes the 7970 but soon amd will release new gpus and nvidia around april so you could wait or get maybe a 670 as they are best bang for buck or a 680 if you can afford it i recommend the msi 680 lightning

All wrong. The 7990 is basically the same strength. The 7970 is the about the same strength if not a little stronger. The ghz edition flat out beats the 680. The 7950 is the best value, about the strength of a 670, and can be overclocked past an oced 670. A better value than all of them. I could never recommend a 680. Also the nvidia series is probably coming out first this year. You are using outdated info.
At mycutefairy: Really? That is just the epitome of ignorance.
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January 29, 2013 2:51:19 AM

lt_dan_zsu said:
All wrong. The 7990 is basically the same strength. The 7970 is the about the same strength if not a little stronger. The ghz edition flat out beats the 680. The 7950 is the best value, about the strength of a 670, and can be overclocked past an oced 670. A better value than all of them. I could never recommend a 680. Also the nvidia series is probably coming out first this year. You are using outdated info.
At mycutefairy: Really? That is just the epitome of ignorance.


^ this the 7990 and 690 are bassically the same If anything the 7990 is faster
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January 29, 2013 2:54:12 AM

At mycutefairy: Really? That is just the epitome of ignorance.[/quotemsg]


Yeah. Really. That is just basing on my own personal experience.. Fanboy
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January 29, 2013 2:57:25 AM

Another thing, if your 7950 is the best value.. Why are you using GTX 560 Ti in SLI huh?
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January 29, 2013 2:58:20 AM

I didn't use a quote that I have only heard idiots use to defend nvidia. Nvidia can be good. Used to have a nvidia card. Got a nvidia card for my cousin when he build a pc. You just said 5 random words with absolutely no data to back it up. So yes the epitome of ignorance.
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January 29, 2013 3:01:24 AM

Just Stupid. Even here in Iraq, people understand "own personal experience" Just stupid
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January 29, 2013 3:10:26 AM

mycutefairy said:
Just Stupid. Even here in Iraq, people understand "own personal experience" Just stupid

First off, about the 560ti, the build is old and I haven't updated my signature. I sold the 560ti in 2 days because they didn't like eachother. Yes I did literally everything. Got a 7950 and haven't looked back. Also experience doesn't mean that much when technology like this gets outdated so fast. I would say the 4000, 5000, and 7000 have beaten nvidia in recent years. The 700 could easily turn around.
Now to the reason I quoted that message. Racist and idiotic? Iraq is a civilized nation too. You are really backing up your defense well. Show me evidence that isn't outdated that nvidia cards are better, and I will believe you. Also the reason I attacked so fast was because I have seen that exact quote from other people who don't know what they are talking about.
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January 29, 2013 3:14:54 AM

lt_dan_zsu said:
First off, about the 560ti, the build is old and I haven't updated my signature. I sold the 560ti in 2 days because they didn't like eachother. Yes I did literally everything. Got a 7950 and haven't looked back. Also experience doesn't mean that much when technology like this gets outdated so fast. I would say the 4000, 5000, and 7000 have beaten nvidia in recent years. The 700 could easily turn around.
Now to the reason I quoted that message. Racist and idiotic? Iraq is a civilized nation too. You are really backing up your defense well. Show me evidence that isn't outdated that nvidia cards are better, and I will believe you. Also the reason I attacked so fast was because I have seen that exact quote from other people who don't know what they are talking about.


I agree.
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January 29, 2013 3:16:21 AM

My point exactly. You know very well that English is NOT the primary language here. And most of us understand .."own personal experience" .. You attacked so fast because you're arrogant and wants to force people what you want to believe. This thread is basing on what people experienced not with your synthetic benchmark and results that you brag about. Clown
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January 29, 2013 3:24:47 AM

don't feed the trolls.
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January 29, 2013 3:25:21 AM

What are you even talking about, with English not being the primary language here? I don't want people to believe what I believe if it is wrong. You still have shown nothing to back it up. Those benchmarks aren't "synthetic" they were actually happened. I am not bragging about anything believe it or not. Also, if you scroll a little bit up in the thread, you will see that I said he should go with nvidia because it make sense in his situation. If you really want own personal experience, here you go. I got a 560ti, it broke, I rmaed it. Got another 560ti, they didn't work in sli for some reason. My friend got a nvidia card, it broke in a few months. Now, me and my brother have had 4 amd cards, all of them have worked flawlessly. So, yes I am biased, but there is also the fact that amd is also objectively better.
Don't attack stantheman123, how is he being an a**kisser, when he has literally nothing to gain from agreeing with me?
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January 29, 2013 3:26:59 AM

Racist and idiotic? Iraq is a civilized nation too. You are really backing up your defense well. Show me evidence that isn't outdated that nvidia cards are better, and I will believe you. Also the reason I attacked so fast was because I have seen that exact quote from other people who don't know what they are talking about.[/quotemsg]


Are you trying to tell me that we are barely Civilized???
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January 29, 2013 3:28:35 AM

[. So, yes I am biased, but there is also the fact that amd is also objectively better.



So yeah. Fanboy right?
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January 29, 2013 3:29:50 AM

No, exactly the opposite. Notice how I said too? As in as well as other civilized countries. Now you are obviously out of arguments. So you are taking the ultimate low road.
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January 29, 2013 3:36:35 AM

Now you're telling me that people here can't understand English?? What's this "too" thing you are talking about? ? So we have to be thankful that you consider us as civilized? Is that what you mean?
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January 29, 2013 3:46:14 AM

Well, you are obviously just screwing with me at this point, because I explained what I meant and based that response, you obviously know what I am talking about. Good jobs completely derailing this thread though. Get it back on track or no one is going to respond. I am surprised a moderator hasn't closed the thread yet to be honest.
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January 29, 2013 3:48:35 AM

Both make the best cards you can buy but with AMD you can save money and get the same or better performance than nvidia.
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January 29, 2013 3:50:33 AM

Amd and nvidia both are good.one should choose gpu according to needs and buget consideration.
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January 29, 2013 3:58:59 AM

Haha, well this forum post got super entertaining! I am going with Nvidia for sure because I hated the drivers on ati, and I just don't like my past experience. I'd totally get the 690, but its 4gb for both gpus, so it wouldn't work for the 3 monitor setup im going for. Since new stuff is coming out in april, I will get a 4 GB 670 to hold me over, and then get whatever is badass at that time!

Thanks for all the info. Nvidia is this winner this round!
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January 29, 2013 7:04:39 AM

Congratz man. im happy for you. that sure is a nice card
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January 29, 2013 7:22:33 AM

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Good for you. Never said a racist comment, but oh well. Stop posting unless you are going to be constructive. Also, don't say stupid blanket statements.
To the OP, nvidia is better for video editing, which you said you are going to do. So I suppose you should probably go with them, though it pains me to say it because you could get better game performance with a 7970. But anyways, don't waste your money on a 4gb card unless you are positive that you need it because the 2gb hikes up the price like no other.


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January 29, 2013 5:00:44 PM

admbautista said:
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January 29, 2013 6:35:32 PM

Did anyone walk about the differences between the cards when you crossfire/SLI them. It seems people quickly jump to the NVIDIA side when SLI is brought into the conversation.
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January 29, 2013 6:38:04 PM

guinner16 said:
Did anyone walk about the differences between the cards when you crossfire/SLI them. It seems people quickly jump to the NVIDIA side when SLI is brought into the conversation.


That's because Nvidia has better multi-GPU support than AMD does. The difference isn't as great as it used to be, but AMD is still behind Nvidia in terms of the quality of multi-GPU setups on the whole.
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January 29, 2013 6:41:50 PM

BigMack70 said:
That's because Nvidia has better multi-GPU support than AMD does. The difference isn't as great as it used to be, but AMD is still behind Nvidia in terms of the quality of multi-GPU setups on the whole.


Thanks for the reply. I think crossfire/sli is something that shouldn't be left out of this conversation.
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January 29, 2013 6:43:26 PM

Au contraire... For an OP with a stated $500 budget, SLI/CF is not part of the equation.
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January 29, 2013 7:12:35 PM

BigMack70 said:
Au contraire... For an OP with a stated $500 budget, SLI/CF is not part of the equation.

Please humour me on this, how much would a pair of 660Ti's cost in your part of the world?
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January 29, 2013 7:14:08 PM

Mousemonkey said:
Please humour me on this, how much would a pair of 660Ti's cost in your part of the world?


Way more than a pair of cards on a 192-bit bus is worth!

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