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what is the difference between the 120gxp and the 60gxp? is there a performance/reliability difference or is one just a newer model and there is really no difference?

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The main difference that kept me from upgrading from my 60GXP is the fact
that IBM recommends you only run the 120GXP for 8 hours a day or 333 hours a month.


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Reply to OldBear

Why is IBM scaring off their potential customers?

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Reply to AMD_Man

Who knows but it is in the specs of the 120GXP at their site.
333 hours per month. Very sad.


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Reply to OldBear

Agreed, IBM is sure going to be losing a lot of sales this way.

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Reply to AMD_Man

They lost mine. I was going to buy the 120gig 120GXP to update my (still working) 60GXP,
but I bought the WD 1200BB instead.



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Reply to OldBear

Nice, I'd love to see a Sandra benchmark on that drive.

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Reply to AMD_Man

Sandra 2002 = 29705. Asus A7V266-E, XP 1800+.
The 60GXP = 24556.

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Reply to OldBear

That is using the VIA drivers that come with WinXP.
Haven't installed newer VIA drivers because these are stable and work just fine.

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Reply to OldBear

Nice! That's nearly RAID performance! That's some performance out of a single drive!

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Reply to AMD_Man

The seek time reported is a little slower than the 60GXP but in real use you
can't tell it. It is a little louder than the IBM or maybe just a different
sound, can't tell. I like it.


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Reply to OldBear

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Nice! That's nearly RAID performance! That's some performance out of a single drive!



Ahem...

Sandra 2002 PII GHz, Abit BX133-R, 2 x 60GXPs RAID 0.

42016.

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Reply to camieabz

hehe, well, low-end RAID at least. I believe 2 30GB ATA66 hard drives score just over 30000.

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Reply to AMD_Man

Sandra 2002 puts 2 x ATA100s, 7200rpm RAID 0 at 36300. So I'm fairly pleased.

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Reply to camieabz

You should be more than pleased! That's great!



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Reply to OldBear

ok, so IBM says their 120gxp shouldn't be ran for more than 8 hours a day. does that mean that the 60gxp or other brands(western digital, maxtor) are more reliable or does that just mean that those other brands didn't put their sugestions in writing.

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Reply to reptilej

I ran another one after a clean up & defrag and got...can't remember. I took a screendump, but I'm in college right now. LoL.

It was something like 427**. Yep, I'm chuffed!

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Reply to camieabz

I believe it means other brands haven't been hit with a class action.


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Reply to OldBear

I run all five of my Maxtor Drives 24hours a day 7days a week! I have a 53073H6, 3-5T030H3, and a 5T060H6. They have been running that way for close to a year an a half.

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Reply to Lars_Coleman

How do you prevent your system memory from becoming bogged down in TSRs etc.

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Reply to camieabz

I have to give IBM credit for being honest in its capability though.

Crap, all the good ones are already taken.

Reply to Booky

It's not like power on hours were new with the 120GXP. They have been on the laptop drives forever. It was also on the specs for the 60GXP. The specs for the 60GXP were out before the lawsuit.

Reply to LeaV

I think on that whole 333 hours a month thing is two fold.

They didn't want to put 666.

They didn't want to have to tell people, 'You need to cool the living bejesus out of this hard drive line because the controller chip has a tendency to convert to the liquid phase, burning a hole through the case/carpet/foundation just like those Aliens do when one of the marines nails it with a 10mm round'.

Reply to ejsmith2

I always like the way you describe things.
China syndrome is bad for HDD's.
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Reply to OldBear

Check out the post where they are no longer saying the drive is to be only run for 333 hours monthly.

Reply to Anonymous

IBM site still says 333 hours per month.

<A HREF="http://www-3.ibm.com/storage/hdd/tech/techlib.nsf/techdocs/E0B26749E1A7728C87256B290055ECA5/$file/D120GXP_ds.pdf" target="_new">120GXP</A>

PDF file.



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Reply to OldBear

It should be supposed that the new bearing and the glass surface for the disks are better then what have been used for the 60GXP series which is running 720 h/month in my computer since a year and half. I received an answer to this question from the IBM technical support that assured me, the 120GXP series can withstand with no problems to 24/7 duty cycle even it has been designed for home/office use where tipically the computer remains on for no more then 10 hours a day. But this strange indication (333 h/month=11 h/day) is still reported by IBM in the 120GXP technical documentation. I already bought a 120 GB 120GXP. It runs with power continuously on with no problems from (only) two weeks. You will hear from me for any news. I am not very kind with HDD. I have a big experience on how to destroy an HDD and I already put out of order an old Conner, a Quantum, and also an IBM (DJAA).
I believe that it is important to understand how stringent are the requirements established by a HDD maker to define that the hd unit is perfectly functional.
I always noted that IBM lets to know many more features of their HDD than it is possible to find for any other HDD maker. This could be the reason which caused the necessity to specify the typical (333 h/month) application of such HDD.
I will take you informed.

Reply to unoc

I am using a 60g 60GXP, installed around July last year, with no problems.
I needed more storage last month and was going to buy the 120g 120GXP, but
after reading their specs, I bought the WD 1200BB instead. I would like to
be updated occasionally on your 120GXP and I hope it is faithful to you.







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Reply to OldBear

OK, I will.

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