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February 2, 2013 11:14:46 PM

Hello, I wonder if i could upgrade my computer graphic card from a GTX 550 TI to a GTX 660 TI and if i should do it?
Im not very good with Graphic cards and i need help as soon as possible :( 

Specs:
16.0 GB Dual-Channel DD R 3 @ 669 MHz (9-9-9-24)
1023 MB Ge Force GT X 550 Ti (ASUS tek Computer Inc)
Bulldozer FX-6100 6 Cores 3.3GHZ
32 inch Samsung screen
Motherboard: ASUSTeK Computer INC. M5A78L-M/USB3 (AM3R2)

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a b U Graphics card
February 3, 2013 12:43:20 AM

While that is a worthy upgrade, you might want to look at the 7950 depending on how much you are paying for that 660ti. The most I would pay is 270 maybe 280 for a 660ti.
a b U Graphics card
February 3, 2013 12:50:20 AM

A gtx 660ti is a nice upgrade from a gtx550ti, and as It_dan_zsu said a hd7950 is also a good option. The hd7950 has more memory so if you play at very high resolutions it would be a good option. I notice you have a 32in. monitor, is it 1920x1080 or does it have a higher resolution?

hope this helps!
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February 3, 2013 8:48:22 AM

fil1p said:
A gtx 660ti is a nice upgrade from a gtx550ti, and as It_dan_zsu said a hd7950 is also a good option. The hd7950 has more memory so if you play at very high resolutions it would be a good option. I notice you have a 32in. monitor, is it 1920x1080 or does it have a higher resolution?

hope this helps!



I Checked The Price of a AMD 7950 Its 280 But the GTX 660 TI Is a 2gb For 215 Which One Do i Actually get and Which one will FIT My Pc ?

And Yes Thank you For noticing and Helping out (: My Screen is 1920x1080
a b Î Nvidia
a c 133 U Graphics card
February 3, 2013 8:56:38 AM

Both will do just fine. One thing you may want to keep in mind is that AMD cards tend to be a bit longer so you may want to check that your case can fit a 7950 if you go that route. A 660Ti would be sufficient at your resolution and it will be a quantum leap over your 550Ti the 660Ti is a different tiered product.

550 (home theater, light gaming) 550Ti (home theatre, light gaming but with a little higher settings), 560 (mid level), 560Ti (mid level with a punch), 570 high end, 580 high end.

Same deal with the 600 series the number scheme.
February 3, 2013 11:07:43 AM

bigshootr8 said:
Both will do just fine. One thing you may want to keep in mind is that AMD cards tend to be a bit longer so you may want to check that your case can fit a 7950 if you go that route. A 660Ti would be sufficient at your resolution and it will be a quantum leap over your 550Ti the 660Ti is a different tiered product.

550 (home theater, light gaming) 550Ti (home theatre, light gaming but with a little higher settings), 560 (mid level), 560Ti (mid level with a punch), 570 high end, 580 high end.

Same deal with the 600 series the number scheme.


Wait... So the 660 TI is the same as a 560 TI? Or will the 660 TI a bit higher end than the 560TI?
I said this because i have been watching gameplay From Games with the 660 ti.
I Mostly Play Battlefield 3, Skyrim, Arma 2: Operation ArrowHead (Dayz Mod) And Crysis 2 (planning to get the Crysis 3)
a b Î Nvidia
a c 133 U Graphics card
February 3, 2013 11:17:04 AM

Sorry.. I think I may have confused you the 2nd number in a series of a card 5 (6) 0 and 6 (6) 0 is very telling and the ti titanium is very telling as well.
February 3, 2013 12:23:19 PM

bigshootr8 said:
Sorry.. I think I may have confused you the 2nd number in a series of a card 5 (6) 0 and 6 (6) 0 is very telling and the ti titanium is very telling as well.


Aah I see so I can Get an Upgrade and it will FIT inside my Pc..?
I ask this because i dont want my pc to break or anything like that.. And if i buy it and i cant return it
it doesnt fit ill have to buy another motherboard? (I dont want that to happen)
a b U Graphics card
February 3, 2013 1:57:34 PM

Hey,

If you can get the gtx660ti for $65 cheaper then I would go with that, as it is perfectly capable of handling games at 1920x1080.
A reference gtx660ti is not very long and should fit in a vareity of cases. What case do you have? Unless its a rather small case then it should fit.
February 3, 2013 6:02:13 PM

fil1p said:
Hey,

If you can get the gtx660ti for $65 cheaper then I would go with that, as it is perfectly capable of handling games at 1920x1080.
A reference gtx660ti is not very long and should fit in a vareity of cases. What case do you have? Unless its a rather small case then it should fit.


What i mean is if like.. it doesnt matter if my motherboard doesnt/does support PCI 3?
a b U Graphics card
February 3, 2013 7:22:49 PM

No, your motherboard does not have to support pcie 3.0, it will work fine with no noticeable difference with pcie 2.0. Both the gtx660ti and hd7950 are pcie 3.0 but they are backwards compatible with pcie 2.0 so don't worry about that.
a b Î Nvidia
a c 133 U Graphics card
February 3, 2013 8:51:29 PM

People with AMD boards at the moment don't have PCI-Express 3.0 and they are just fine 2.0 is just fine with the current cards. And without knowing the case you have its hard to say whether it would fit or not.
a b U Graphics card
February 3, 2013 9:36:26 PM

^+1

We need to know what case you are using to know if it will fit or not. If its a full tower then it should be no problem at all, but if its a smaller mid tower then it would depend on what case you have.
February 4, 2013 5:07:56 AM

fil1p said:
^+1

We need to know what case you are using to know if it will fit or not. If its a full tower then it should be no problem at all, but if its a smaller mid tower then it would depend on what case you have.


My Case Is a Black Gaming Style Vantage Case

( http://www.falconcomputers.co.uk/media/product/14503/0/... )
a b Î Nvidia
a c 133 U Graphics card
February 4, 2013 5:10:59 AM

It looks like you will be okay.

a b Î Nvidia
a c 133 U Graphics card
February 4, 2013 7:13:26 AM

Before I could tell you that I would want to know the quality of the unit. Who made it, the 12voltage to watts, and if it was 80 plus bronze, silver, gold, or platinum
February 4, 2013 9:54:36 AM

bigshootr8 said:
Before I could tell you that I would want to know the quality of the unit. Who made it, the 12voltage to watts, and if it was 80 plus bronze, silver, gold, or platinum


Power Suply is a OCZ 500W StealthXStream Power Supply
( http://www.ocztechnology.com/ocz-500w-stealthxstream-po... )
a b U Graphics card
February 4, 2013 1:18:16 PM

Your case is fine, a gtx660ti will fit, and the power supply should be fine too. So your good to go. Which gtx660ti are you looking at?
February 4, 2013 3:28:13 PM

fil1p said:
Your case is fine, a gtx660ti will fit, and the power supply should be fine too. So your good to go. Which gtx660ti are you looking at?


i tried editing my message earlier to tell you i was looking at the MSI 660 Ti Power edition Or the Asus GTx 660 TI Direct CU II
a b U Graphics card
February 4, 2013 5:21:40 PM

Those are some nice choices, both of them are pretty good.
February 5, 2013 9:15:39 AM

But Which one is Better? with the ASUS i get a Copy of assassins creed 3
a b Î Nvidia
a c 133 U Graphics card
February 5, 2013 12:07:31 PM

I guess its just personal preference both are good cards. The power edition card has a factory overclock where as depending on the DCUII card you are looking at it may not. Either way both cards will feel the same performance wise and if you get a game you want from one and not the other then perhaps the better value is with the ASUS card for you.
February 5, 2013 2:14:35 PM

bigshootr8 said:
I guess its just personal preference both are good cards. The power edition card has a factory overclock where as depending on the DCUII card you are looking at it may not. Either way both cards will feel the same performance wise and if you get a game you want from one and not the other then perhaps the better value is with the ASUS card for you.



Thank you Very Much Ill Get the Graphic card in a week or 2 maybe the price will drop if it wont it doesnt matter and i thank you all very much for helping me out :D 
February 5, 2013 5:04:10 PM

bigshootr8 said:
I guess its just personal preference both are good cards. The power edition card has a factory overclock where as depending on the DCUII card you are looking at it may not. Either way both cards will feel the same performance wise and if you get a game you want from one and not the other then perhaps the better value is with the ASUS card for you.



I also have another quick question


My friend has a H-I41-uATX (Eton) motherboard.. he is wondering if a GTX 550 TI will fit inside his pc..?
Quick Question Thanks
a b Î Nvidia
a c 133 U Graphics card
February 5, 2013 6:47:46 PM

No problem! Yea playing the waiting game never hurt anyone really and you are right you may find the card cheaper.

Yes a 550Ti would work with his computer. That being said though I would make sure he had a good enough power supply to take care of the card as it does use 1 auxiliary power connection.
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01...

February 6, 2013 5:33:38 AM

bigshootr8 said:
No problem! Yea playing the waiting game never hurt anyone really and you are right you may find the card cheaper.

Yes a 550Ti would work with his computer. That being said though I would make sure he had a good enough power supply to take care of the card as it does use 1 auxiliary power connection.
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01...



Which One do you prefer to get for his motherboard? (Cheapest)
a b Î Nvidia
a c 133 U Graphics card
February 6, 2013 5:38:49 AM

With a bulldozer gosh! Well on the cheap end a AMD 7770 and on the still budget side either a 7850 w/2GB or GTX660 w/2gb
February 6, 2013 10:12:08 AM

bigshootr8 said:
With a bulldozer gosh! Well on the cheap end a AMD 7770 and on the still budget side either a 7850 w/2GB or GTX660 w/2gb

xD im talking about power supplies ... does it matter if he gets just a good 500w power supply by OCZ? (the same one as mine)
( http://www.ocztechnology.com/ocz-corexstream-series-500... )
February 6, 2013 7:16:09 PM

bigshootr8 said:
I personally wouldn't I would take a look at the tier list from newegg.
http://www.eggxpert.com/forums/thread/323050.aspx

I would also take a look at XFX perhaps for something like this.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Im sorry that i keep making this so long and longer :/  :(  I Just want the Right info before i buy the 660 TI

The 550 TI only has One 6-pin and the 660 Ti has two 6-pin how do i actually add another one?
a b Î Nvidia
a c 133 U Graphics card
February 6, 2013 7:22:05 PM

You do yes the card will require the two pci express power connections to power the card. The power supply I recommended has just enough to power it. It also has a +2 connection in case you ran across a card that needed one.
February 6, 2013 7:29:57 PM

bigshootr8 said:
You do yes the card will require the two pci express power connections to power the card. The power supply I recommended has just enough to power it. It also has a +2 connection in case you ran across a card that needed one.

But can i use mine though? cause thats all i want to spend... just a graphic card and also the Site Newegg i know it but its from the US.. im in the UK...
a b Î Nvidia
a c 133 U Graphics card
February 6, 2013 7:39:56 PM

I'm looking at the tier list and it looks like if you have the power supply you have that the ones manufactured before 2007 are bunk power supplies. Granted your PSU is after the point of bunk you should be okay. You will however need to use the adapter that comes with the card as you only has 1 PCI-E power connection with your unit.


Tier 4 - Not Recommend for stressful situations. May not be able to put out full rated power above room temperature, and may slightly fail to meet ATX specs.
Aerocool
Asus Atlas
BFG 1000 watt
Cooler Master eXtreme (only use 75% of labeled wattage)
Cooler Master GX (except 450w)
E-Power
Futurepower
Hale82n 650w
Hiper Type-M
HIPRO
Masscool
MGE XG
Mushkin HP
NorthQ 4775-500S/BU
OCZ Modstream (if manufactured before December 2007)
OCZ GameXStream <1000 watt (if manufactured before December 2007)
OCZ StealthXStream (if manufactured before December 2007)
OCZ GameXStream 1010 watt (essentially a 850watt power supply)
Scythe Kamariki
Sigma Shark
Sintek
TTGI/Superflower
Ultra Xfinity
Ultra X2 <less than 700 watt
Ultra XVS
Xion Real Power PowerReal

if after 2007


Tier 2 Brands - Top Quality components With Top Notch Stability - For Those With Price/Availability Issues With Tier 1

Antec Neo HE
Antec High Current Gamer Series
Antec EarthWatts greater than 700 watt
Antec TruePower Trio
Antec TruePower Quattro
Antec TruePower New -- 750w
Akasa PowerGreen 80+
CoolMax CTG-750 watt/850 watt/1000 watt
Cooler Master Ultimate/UCP
Cooltek CT
Corsair GS600 / GS800
Corsair HX
Corsair TX
Corsair VX
Cougar SX700 and GX700
Enermax Liberty
Enermax Infiniti
Enermax MaxRevo 1350
Enermax MODU82+
Enermax Platimax (600, 750, 850, 1.2K)
Enermax PRO82+
Enermax PRO87+ (500w + 700w)
Enhance ENP-GH
EVGA - SuperNOVA NEX1500 Classified
Fortron (FSP) GLN
Hale82-m 650-750w
iStarUSA PD2
iStarUSA PD3
LEPA G500
OCZ EliteXStream
OCZ Fatal1ty
OCZ GameXStream less than 1000 watt (only if manufactured in December 2007 or later)
OCZ StealthXStream 400 watt
OCZ StealthXStream 2 greater than 700 watt
OCZ Modstream (only if manufactured in December 2007 or later)
OCZ EvoStream
OCZ ProXStream
OCZ Z(t)(s) Series Less than 1000W
OCZ ZX 850w
PC P&C Silencer less than 610 watt
PC P&C Silencer MkII
Rosewill Capstone (450, 750)
Rosewill Hive (550, 650)
Seasonic G series
Seasonic S12
Seasonic M12
Seasonic Energy Plus
Sentey Golden Steel Power 850w
SevenTeam ST less than 600 watt
Silverstone OP/DA 700 watt or less
Supermicro/AbleCom
Thermaltake Toughpower greater than 600 watt
Thortech Thunderbolt Plus 800w
Topower Powerbird 900w
Xclio StablePower
XFX Core Edition
Xigmatek MC
Xigmatek HC
Ultra X3
Ultra X-Pro
Zalman ZM less than 1000 watt
a b Î Nvidia
a c 133 U Graphics card
February 6, 2013 7:57:54 PM

You can yes. But if you read what newegg has put out about the modstream you could take it one of two ways either the unit will do great after 2007 manufacturing or poorly prior. Prior you will possibly not get the advertised wattage at a continuous rate. So its hard to say. If the power supply doesn't emit its advertised wattage that could present a problem.
a b Î Nvidia
a c 133 U Graphics card
February 6, 2013 7:59:11 PM

Also, something to keep in mind it may be just a better solution to not chance it at all and make sure you have a unit that will insure your graphics card and your system. I know you are probably on a budget and that is understood however it would make me a little on edge to know my power supply is either great or bunk.
February 6, 2013 8:13:38 PM

bigshootr8 said:
Also, something to keep in mind it may be just a better solution to not chance it at all and make sure you have a unit that will insure your graphics card and your system. I know you are probably on a budget and that is understood however it would make me a little on edge to know my power supply is either great or bunk.



Im a Bit confused here Sorry... So I Could have a problem and i couldnt have a problem? is it like 50 50?
Cause i dont want to break my Pc all the way that ill have to get a new one...? Ive also checked on the Nvidea site for the 660 TI Specs and it says Minimum wattage it needs is 450 isnt that quiet good though?
a b Î Nvidia
a c 133 U Graphics card
February 6, 2013 8:23:22 PM

Well if you read through what I posted it shows the tier list of power supplies. And in one case a modstream gets placed in tier 2 which is good. And then the other gets placed in tier 4 which is bad. I'm not sure what would happen if your power supply went sour. I wouldn't want to test it your power supply has the ability to take your entire system up.

This is what tier 4 says read it carefully.



Tier 4 - Not Recommend for stressful situations. May not be able to put out full rated power above room temperature, and may slightly fail to meet ATX specs.
February 6, 2013 8:26:31 PM

bigshootr8 said:
Well if you read through what I posted it shows the tier list of power supplies. And in one case a modstream gets placed in tier 2 which is good. And then the other gets placed in tier 4 which is bad. I'm not sure what would happen if your power supply went sour. I wouldn't want to test it your power supply has the ability to take your entire system up.

This is what tier 4 says read it carefully.



Tier 4 - Not Recommend for stressful situations. May not be able to put out full rated power above room temperature, and may slightly fail to meet ATX specs.


With "ability to take your entire system up" Do you Mean it in a bad way for example Wreck my system and mess up my Processor and stuff or a good way?
February 6, 2013 8:30:30 PM

Im also in a bad position with my power supply... it only has 1 x 6-pin PCI-E* Connector...
a b Î Nvidia
a c 133 U Graphics card
February 6, 2013 8:35:38 PM

You aren't in a bad position because the power supply you have has molex connections and with a pci express adapter that comes with the card you would plug 2x 4 pin molex connections into the adapter and you would essentially get a pci express connection. That being said though yes I mean take up your system in a bad way. Say something goes poorly with your power supply could take out a few items could take out all of the items. Its crucial never to skimp on your power supply.
February 6, 2013 8:39:30 PM

bigshootr8 said:
You aren't in a bad position because the power supply you have has molex connections and with a pci express adapter that comes with the card you would plug 2x 4 pin molex connections into the adapter and you would essentially get a pci express connection. That being said though yes I mean take up your system in a bad way. Say something goes poorly with your power supply could take out a few items could take out all of the items. Its crucial never to skimp on your power supply.


My Power Supply is only a month old or doesn't that matter?
And I dont really know what to do now get a new one or just leave the old one...
Cant i Leave it for now and if something goes wrong then get a new one?
a b Î Nvidia
a c 133 U Graphics card
February 6, 2013 8:45:01 PM

Ah, and did you purchase the power supply new? or was it bought used? If new it should be just fine as you have a unit that was more then likely manufactured after 2007.
February 6, 2013 8:51:09 PM

bigshootr8 said:
Ah, and did you purchase the power supply new? or was it bought used? If new it should be just fine as you have a unit that was more then likely manufactured after 2007.

I have actually brought the PC NEW with these specs:
16.0 GB Dual-Channel DD R 3 @ 669 MHz (9-9-9-24)
1023 MB Ge Force GT X 550 Ti (ASUS tek Computer Inc)
Bulldozer FX-6100 6 Cores 3.3GHZ
ASUSTeK Computer INC. M5A78L-M/USB3 (AM3R2)
And ofcourse the Power Supply Was New Aswell...
February 6, 2013 8:52:04 PM

So all i need is a Unit that is Manufactured AFTER 2007? Cause If thats the case then i should be pretty much fine...
a b Î Nvidia
a c 133 U Graphics card
February 6, 2013 8:56:52 PM

Yea, you are tiring me out man :p  That is why I linked the tier list to start is because the modstream units prior to 2007 were awful but after 2007 they were considered tier 2. The only down side to your power supply at this point is that it only comes with 1 pci power connection.
February 7, 2013 4:21:21 AM

bigshootr8 said:
Yea, you are tiring me out man :p  That is why I linked the tier list to start is because the modstream units prior to 2007 were awful but after 2007 they were considered tier 2. The only down side to your power supply at this point is that it only comes with 1 pci power connection.



So.. I will have to use plug 4 pin molex to get 2?
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