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560ti vs. 650ti vs. anything else for my build?

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February 4, 2013 3:32:32 PM

Hello world, this is my first post on here, and I assume there have been comparisons between these cards tons of times, but I'm trying to find out what will suit my build the most as I'm very new to PC having built my first computer less than a week ago to make the move from mac to PC (which I'm feeling thus far was a good choice).

So here is my current budget build which includes a pretty weak GPU, which is the first of many things I plan to upgrade as finances permit over time. My initial budget for the gpu was around $100-$120 and I'm trying to find the best card in terms of cost/performance ratio. So if the performance justifies the cost to go upward to around the $200 mark, I would be willing to do so. I'm open to most anything so long as it's somewhere around my price range and suiting to the rest of my build. I intend to use this rig for HD video editing and some gaming (Guild Wars 2 atm and who knows what else in the future)

Build:
CPU - AMD FX-4300 3.8Ghz
GPU - EVGA GeForce GT 610 2GB
Memory - 8GB Crucial Ballistix 1600Mhz RAM
Motherboard - GIGABYTE GA-970A-DS3
HDD -Seagate Barracuda 2TB HDD
PSU - OEM 700W
Case - NZXT Phantom Full-Tower

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a b U Graphics card
February 4, 2013 3:35:50 PM

560 ti is a better card but it costs more than $120. The 650ti also costs more than 120>

At your budget, your best option is the radeon 7770.
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February 4, 2013 3:38:25 PM

Yeah, I know both go beyond my budget, and I'm flexible to do so if the cost/performance justifies it. my initial budget was what I was hoping for. Just trying to get an idea if these cards permit spending the extra dollar. My apologies.. I was extremely disregarding stating that. my budget could go up to the $200 if it makes a big enough difference to pay that much more.
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February 4, 2013 3:42:09 PM

Edited OP because of how unclear I was on that :S
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a b U Graphics card
February 4, 2013 3:44:40 PM

I have a 560ti and it runs all the games I throw at it no problem, it is a very good card. Not top of the line for sure lol, but it runs almost everything on high. You'll be happy with it if you decide to pick one up. I have the MSI twinfrozr, it overclocks slightly, which beefs up the a performance a bit :-) good luck!
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a c 175 U Graphics card
February 4, 2013 3:47:46 PM

Most of us avoid the GTX650TI. Not because its a bad card, but because it usually sits so close in price to the much better 7850. When you are looking at spending $140 for a 650TI and the 7850 is $180, you are really better off spending the extra $40 and getting the 7850. The performance difference between the two are that large.

If you are upgrading from the 610 and want to stay around the $100, the 7770 is the card for you. The 650TI might be an option, but again if you go that route make sure the 7850 isn't too much more.
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February 4, 2013 3:57:06 PM

Alright. I've seen talk of that card in comparison. Main thing I'm concerned with is now well these cards will play with everything in my build, or should that not be a concern? And at the moment I don't plan to put too much work on the card, just assume if I'm upgrading might as well go a bit bigger than I want now in case I want to play more gpu demanding games in the future. Think the 7770 could handle most games at a bearable setting?
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a c 175 U Graphics card
February 4, 2013 4:00:19 PM

Most... The 650TI will handle more better, but the 7850 even more. Eventually you have to just buy based on what your budget allows.
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February 4, 2013 6:03:48 PM

Makes sense. For what I intend on doing now which is mainly just guild wars 2 I assume the 7770 will get me some mileage and I'll look I upgrade further when I deem it suiting. I appreciate the help.
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February 4, 2013 9:19:43 PM

I actually threw caution to the wind and just ordered the sapphire 7850 1gb version.
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a c 105 U Graphics card
February 4, 2013 9:34:04 PM

a GTX660 would be my pick before anything else..... having said that, what is your monitor/resolution? what games and what operating system?

the guy above with the 560 "my """" will play anything maxed out" is kind of a lame description in the company you're in.
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a b U Graphics card
February 4, 2013 9:35:29 PM

good the 7850 is a good card for the price. You could have even stepped it up to a 7870 for $20-30 more.
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February 4, 2013 9:39:37 PM

Well ATM I'm a week into this build. I'm trying to kinda future-proof my future gaming desires ha. I won't put this thing to work like it should for a while. But I will get there eventually and will have this at that time. But at the moment I'm on 7 ultimate, 32" tv I plan to replace eventually, and just running guild wars 2 for now. I just had my taxes come back and wanted to upgrade my gpu with some of it
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a b U Graphics card
February 4, 2013 9:47:27 PM

7850 1gb @ 155 after MIR
650ti 1gb @ 120
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February 4, 2013 9:48:47 PM

Yup I ordered the 7850 1gb! Sapphire if its important heh
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a c 105 U Graphics card
February 4, 2013 9:48:52 PM

isn't 720p something like 1300 resolution or something? upgrading to what in the future?
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February 4, 2013 9:52:09 PM

That's nothing I've researched thus far. I did a budget build, this is my first upgrade, monitor will likely be next, if not a better desk. Then eventually the mobo and CPU to intel. And maybe my psu at that time. Ram at some point perhaps. All in due time.
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a c 112 U Graphics card
February 4, 2013 10:11:36 PM

The 7850 should work out quite well.

GW2 will get cpu limited under some loads(large cities full of players), out in the game the 7850 should have no problems.

Just some clearing up from your OP.

With the cards you had been looking at

560ti
650ti

The first number is a generation the other 2 are performance, so the 650ti is more of a replacement for the 550ti. So the 560ti is FASTER for sure.

Now the 7850 is faster then both.

This link has several games and shows all the cards you had been looking at including the 7850.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_650_Ti_Power...

BTW, I have a GTX 650ti(the one in the review.) in my media center it plays GW2 fine(the game auto settings, so not MAX). so your faster card should be even better.
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a b U Graphics card
February 4, 2013 10:20:20 PM

swifty_morgan said:
a GTX660 would be my pick before anything else..... having said that, what is your monitor/resolution? what games and what operating system?

the guy above with the 560 "my """" will play anything maxed out" is kind of a lame description in the company you're in.



the 'guy above' didn't mention anything about maxed out!! he said it plays anything he throws at it, and runs mostly everything on high!

i have a 560ti and can attest to that. It plays bf3 nicely on high 40-60 fps and quite smooth. stop bating people with a stick, and be more tolerant! :) 
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February 4, 2013 10:28:50 PM

Unbelievably enough I didn't expect it could but my current gt610 is running gw2 smoothly on auto, although low settings with animation at medium. But still. I didn't even think it would run it. I'm curious to see 610 vs 7850 to see the number difference.
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a c 112 U Graphics card
February 5, 2013 12:36:22 AM

GW2 seems more cpu bound at times. And the auto settings work quite well.

Chances are you will get most(if not all) settings on high with the 7850.
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a c 175 U Graphics card
February 5, 2013 1:58:02 AM

Yeah, going to be a huge difference.
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a c 105 U Graphics card
February 5, 2013 9:23:01 AM

keith12 said:
the 'guy above' didn't mention anything about maxed out!! he said it plays anything he throws at it, and runs mostly everything on high!

i have a 560ti and can attest to that. It plays bf3 nicely on high 40-60 fps and quite smooth. stop bating people with a stick, and be more tolerant! :) 


I don't want to spam this thread but, provide all pertinent information. machine hardware, operating system, resolution and games. both of you are being very vague. I owned a few 560ti's. get it right.
this is what i mean..................
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBN5MNpYWlY
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