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February 6, 2013 5:01:12 PM

Hello, before I get started here are my pc specifications;

Motherboard : ASRock m3A770DE
CPU : AMD Phenom II X4 955e @ 3.2 Ghz
RAM : 8GBs of DDR3 RAM
Video Card : NVIDIA Geforce GTX 560
Power Supply : Thermaltake TR-600P TR2 Series ATX Power Supply

Right now i'm using the 306.97 WHQL drivers for my GTX 560. When the 310.90 drivers were released a couple weeks ago, I tried installing those multiple times, using different methods. No matter what way I installed them, it would crash and revert back to my old drivers. Now the new 313.96 beta drivers are out and I was wondering if it would even be worth downloading these drivers considering I'm using a older model of nvidia products? I'm still a little nervous about trying to install the new driver considering I've read multiple forums where people had a vast amount of complaints.

Also,if anyone does recommend me downloading the 313.96 drivers, can you tell me how you installed them?

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February 6, 2013 5:04:43 PM

I'm using the 313.95 drivers on my sole remaining 560Ti and I installed them the usual way.
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February 6, 2013 5:13:14 PM

These are BETA Drivers, the official one will not come out til later.....you got enough RAM, good power supply, decent processor and a good video card.....go for it.....if u don't like it.....you can go back to the previous driver. Remember to uninstall your recent driver before you put in the new driver
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February 6, 2013 5:18:44 PM

Have either of you tried the 313.96 drivers? Can you guys link me to a guide to installing new drivers? I used a couple guides to uninstall and install drivers, but it didn't work.
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February 6, 2013 5:21:31 PM

update windows, .net framework 2 3 4, visual c++ redist, direct x... if it doesn't work... fresh install of windows
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February 6, 2013 5:24:53 PM

When u start up for any driver u about install it always ask if u want to uninstall recent driver
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February 6, 2013 5:27:18 PM

darkmendez said:
When u start up for any driver u about install it always ask if u want to uninstall recent driver
Seriously, that's it? haha I was unsure what would be the correct way and I used two guides that each were around 20 steps.
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February 6, 2013 5:39:36 PM

Mousemonkey said:
I'm using the 313.95 drivers on my sole remaining 560Ti and I installed them the usual way.
What was your usual way?
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February 6, 2013 5:49:23 PM

Anthony1025 said:
Have either of you tried the 313.96 drivers? Can you guys link me to a guide to installing new drivers? I used a couple guides to uninstall and install drivers, but it didn't work.


Anthony1025 said:
What was your usual way?


The 313.96 drivers are just a minor change to the international installer of the 313.95 driver otherwise they are exactly the same.

My usual way is to choose the clean install option, if you are still having problems you could try deleting all the Nvidia .dll files from the System32 folder before installing the latest driver.
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February 6, 2013 5:57:23 PM

Mousemonkey said:
The 313.96 drivers are just a minor change to the international installer of the 313.95 driver otherwise they are exactly the same.

My usual way is to choose the clean install option, if you are still having problems you could try deleting all the Nvidia .dll files from the System32 folder before installing the latest driver.
Okay. Just one more thing, do you do this in safe mode or just normally?
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February 6, 2013 6:00:29 PM

I do it in normal mode and then reboot.
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February 6, 2013 6:16:28 PM

Mousemonkey said:
I do it in normal mode and then reboot.
Yeah, I did the clean install option and halfway through it said I had to restart my pc and I did. As windows rebooted the installation continued and then it said 'installation failed' My resolution was set to something other than the native resolution and then windows installed some random drivers. Also, I cannot access my NVIDIA control panel......
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February 6, 2013 6:33:16 PM

Those random drivers are the default drivers that are "built into" Windows and its those that can sometimes be the issue, hence deleting the .dll files and letting them be re written.
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February 6, 2013 6:38:34 PM

Mousemonkey said:
Those random drivers are the default drivers that are "built into" Windows and its those that can sometimes be the issue, hence deleting the .dll files and letting them be re written.
I went into Windows/System32 and could not see any Nvidia related files within the folder.
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February 6, 2013 7:22:56 PM

Anthony1025 said:
I went into Windows/System32 and could not see any Nvidia related files within the folder.

Look again, they are there.

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February 6, 2013 7:49:31 PM

Which ones were they? If they are in use then they can't be deleted but what happened when you rebooted?
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February 6, 2013 8:37:12 PM

Mousemonkey said:
Which ones were they? If they are in use then they can't be deleted but what happened when you rebooted?


nvapi64.dll
nvshext.dll
nvsvc64.dll
nvsvcr.dll
nvumdshimx.dll
nvvsvc
nvwgf2umx.dll
Those are the seven NVIDIA files that cannot be deleted. Should I just ignore them, reboot, try to run the installer with the Clean install option?
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February 6, 2013 8:41:03 PM

Yes.
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February 6, 2013 9:01:42 PM

Mousemonkey said:
Yes.
I rebooted, and ran the installer, and it still failed halfway through the installation. Windows installed the old 306.97 drivers. I have no idea what to do now. I also cannot access my NVIDIA control panel.
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February 6, 2013 9:23:59 PM

You didn't delete the old installation folder did you? The whole point of deleting the files from the System32 folder is that Windows has to install it's default drivers or it will just install the latest drivers that it finds in the system.
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February 6, 2013 9:35:42 PM

Mousemonkey said:
You didn't delete the old installation folder did you? The whole point of deleting the files from the System32 folder is that Windows has to install it's default drivers or it will just install the latest drivers that it finds in the system.

I'm pretty ignorant on this subject I guess, but I thought the clean installation deleted all of the folders and files.
So,delete the files in System32 and delete the NVIDIA folders from my c drive.
This was what I used originally to remove my NVIDIA files http://www.overclock.net/t/1150443/how-to-remove-your-n... Is this the correct way to do this?
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February 6, 2013 9:39:16 PM

I don't like those driver sweeper programs and won't use them myself. The installation folder(s) will always remain until manually deleted.
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February 6, 2013 9:46:53 PM

Mousemonkey said:
I don't like those driver sweeper programs and won't use them myself. The installation folder(s) will always remain until manually deleted.
okay. Can you tell me how I should make sure to remove ALL of the old installation files and folders. I'm really trying to get this finished.
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February 6, 2013 10:20:06 PM

On the c: drive is a folder named Nvidia, that's where the installation files get decompressed to.
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February 6, 2013 11:30:16 PM

Mousemonkey said:
On the c: drive is a folder named Nvidia, that's where the installation files get decompressed to.
Well, for the past hour I have done what you said multiple times and even tried other people's methods and it is still failing during the installation. It is back to the 306.97 drivers, but I still cannot access my nvidia control panel.
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February 6, 2013 11:34:53 PM

Something else is amiss then because if you have deleted the .dll files and the 306.97 installation folder then Windows will only have it's default driver to install. Have you disabled Windows restore?
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February 7, 2013 12:20:24 AM

Mousemonkey said:
Something else is amiss then because if you have deleted the .dll files and the 306.97 installation folder then Windows will only have it's default driver to install. Have you disabled Windows restore?

Mind telling me how to disable that? :wahoo: 
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February 7, 2013 12:27:48 AM

Control panel > System and security > System > System security.
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February 7, 2013 12:51:45 AM

Mousemonkey said:
Control panel > System and security > System > System security.

I'll disable it, delete everything nvidia related in System32 and my c drive, and I'll try to clean install it again. I'll let you know if it works or not. Thanks btw for helping thus far.
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February 7, 2013 12:53:51 AM

NP. I forgot about the restore point because I always disable that on a fresh install.
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February 7, 2013 2:24:43 AM

Mousemonkey said:
NP. I forgot about the restore point because I always disable that on a fresh install.
Unfortunately, Disabling the Windows Restore option did not fix the error.

I've deleted everything related to NVIDIA, did the Clean Install option, uninstalled Windows Restore, used regedits to remove all nvidia related files, remove the files from Windows/System32 to no avail. I even went as far as to uninstalling my GTX 560 from the Device Manager, with the option to remove drivers marked and still, nothing. I'm back to where I started with the 306.97 drivers installed and everything is running correctly. I guess I'm calling it quits with upgrading my nvidia drivers. It's just not possbile. Thanks for all help Mousemonkey, I appreciate it. If you ever come across a fix for this issue, please pass it along.
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February 7, 2013 9:00:18 AM

It sounds like something is making a backup of your system and constantly restoring it, that isn't right and if it were me I would be doing a fresh install of Windows at this point.
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