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February 6, 2013 9:21:14 PM

So i need a new GPU and it needs to be Futureproof and a BEAST so i play alot of Battlefield 3 and im planning on playing crysis 3 on ULTRA with high FPS so what card should i get that is Futureproof my Budget is £450 GBP. ??? been looking at this card is it any good ? http://www.amazon.co.uk/Asus-Nvidia-GeForce-DirectCU-Gr... if not what card

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a c 134 U Graphics card
February 6, 2013 9:26:30 PM

That is a solid card it performs they say 1% higher then the 680 because its high factory overclock. That would handle BF3 on ultra with ease. However keep in mind that this is all factoring in a few things.

1. CPU: You will need a strong processor to keep up with the card.
1a. what is your CPU?

2. Power Supply: What power supply are you currently using.

3. Windows OS: Are you using a 64 bit version of Windows? and if so are you running 8 gigabytes of memory?
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a c 134 U Graphics card
February 6, 2013 9:29:12 PM

Well it may be overpriced but its positioned to go against a 680 the TOP card is hence the price. I would expect in 3 years the card to still be somewhat useful. If anything scaling back heavily on AA/AF, as well as detail settings but by the time 3 years rolls around chances are you will be in the market for a new card. So I guess if future proof entails 2-3 years I'd say you will probably be safe. But its never for certain things change standards, change performance changes.
a c 82 U Graphics card
February 6, 2013 9:31:12 PM

whats ur full system specs?

a b U Graphics card
February 6, 2013 9:31:14 PM

bigshootr8 said:
Well it may be overpriced but its positioned to go against a 680 the TOP card is hence the price. I would expect in 3 years the card to still be somewhat useful. If anything scaling back heavily on AA/AF, as well as detail settings but by the time 3 years rolls around chances are you will be in the market for a new card. So I guess if future proof entails 2-3 years I'd say you will probably be safe. But its never for certain things change standards, change performance changes.

It's overpriced when compared to other gtx 670's. The 7970 I suggested is miles better than the gtx 670 and a lot costs less.
a c 134 U Graphics card
February 6, 2013 9:31:40 PM

Yea I agree with you on the 7970 Matrix card I don't like it it has a lot of feature no one will really care for or need. Overclock3d did a review of that card and found it as a poor value card. You would be better off with just a normal DCUII card either with the 670 or 7970 however the TOP card if you want a high overclock without you doing the work. Also keep in mind that TOP cards are binned chips which means that they find go through GPU's and select the ones that have the best thermal/power output and overclock them into the TOP series of cards.

a b U Graphics card
February 6, 2013 9:37:34 PM

Exactly.... thats why get the gigabyte 7970 I suggested. its OC to 1000 mhz.
It may be 100 mhz less, but also a 100 GBP cheaper
February 6, 2013 9:40:09 PM

bigshootr8 said:
That is a solid card it performs they say 1% higher then the 680 because its high factory overclock. That would handle BF3 on ultra with ease. However keep in mind that this is all factoring in a few things.

1. CPU: You will need a strong processor to keep up with the card.
1a. what is your CPU?

2. Power Supply: What power supply are you currently using.

3. Windows OS: Are you using a 64 bit version of Windows? and if so are you running 8 gigabytes of memory?


i have Intel Core i7 3770k @ 4.5GHz. Kingston XMP Beast 16GB 2400MHz windows 8 64bit and 850wat Power Supply
a c 134 U Graphics card
February 6, 2013 9:45:33 PM

Oh okay so its just a matter of any of the higher end cards from either nvidia or amd and you would be able to run BF3 on ultra with ease at high frame rates. If you prefer the Nvidia option then yea the top card is just fine it is as I said comparable to a 680. A normal 670 would do as well. As well as a normal 7970 would do just fine as well. Its more personal preference on what you prefer. I personally would go with a 7970 now because of the new never settle build where you get Crysis 3 and Bioshock infinite with the card.
February 6, 2013 9:46:16 PM

Hey if you've got that kind of money grab a 680 because regardless of how close a 670 OC gets to a 680 you can always overclock a 680 too. Ive got a mildly OC MSI 680 Twin Frozr and let me tell you the performance scales very well with a few nudges to the memory and the core clocks. By the time you liquid cool and overvolt a 670 to really be a beast you may have well just bought a nice 680.
February 6, 2013 9:47:34 PM

Or if you are willing to settle get the Radeon... They really are great.
February 6, 2013 9:48:03 PM

iceclock said:
whats ur full system specs?


CPU

Intel Core i7 3770k @ 4.5GHz

RAM

Kingston XMP Beast 16GB 2400MHz

Motherboard

Asus Maximus v Gene

Hard Drive 1

2TB WD Caviar Black.

Hard Drive 2

120GB Kingston HyperX 3K SSD

PSU

Corsair TX850 Enthusiast Series TX 850W ATX/EPS 80 PLUS Bronze PSU
a c 134 U Graphics card
February 6, 2013 9:49:40 PM

Very nice system you have there. Any card you would throw in it wouldn't be held back you are safe with whatever personal preference you have towards the card choice.
a b U Graphics card
February 6, 2013 9:51:08 PM

If you want best performance possible get 2 7950s i think you can get a couple cheap enough to fit your budget and nothing could beat them performance wise, but its gonna have some hiccups because it is 2 cards...
February 6, 2013 9:51:20 PM

Wow nice rig bud! You dont seem like you like to settle for just anything. Think about it this way. An OC 650 is like a 660. An OC 660 is like a 660 Ti. An OC 660 Ti is like a 670. And so on forever and ever. Want the best? Buy the best bud.
a b U Graphics card
February 6, 2013 9:58:11 PM

mojin7 said:
Wow nice rig bud! You dont seem like you like to settle for just anything. Think about it this way. An OC 650 is like a 660. An OC 660 is like a 660 Ti. An OC 660 Ti is like a 670. And so on forever and ever. Want the best? Buy the best bud.

That is very bad advise for someone whom is looking for a price/performance factor in their build.
February 6, 2013 9:58:44 PM

Thanks guys lots of thinking to do now :) 
a c 134 U Graphics card
February 6, 2013 10:02:44 PM

Not a problem man. If you need any assistance just ask. You can private message me if you feel like or continue to post here but just know there are those here that will help you :) 
February 6, 2013 10:04:24 PM

helper800 said:
That is very bad advise for someone whom is looking for a price/performance factor in their build.


If you think I mean buy a $400 card that performs worse then a $350 dollar card then I guess you make sense. Telling somebody to get as much card for the money as you can is more like it. If I asked what the biggest truck I could get for $10000 was would you steer me to a $9000 truck because its "almost" the same size? If I put bigger tires on it then it will be?
February 6, 2013 10:06:35 PM

Quote:
So i need a new GPU and it needs to be Futureproof and a BEAST so i play alot of Battlefield 3 and im planning on playing crysis 3 on ULTRA with high FPS so what card should i get that is Futureproof my Budget is £450 GBP. ???


Simple answer is as much card as you can get for that money! Not for a little less you could get this and its almost like a BEAST...
a b U Graphics card
February 6, 2013 10:07:38 PM

mojin7 said:
If you think I mean buy a $400 card that performs worse then a $350 dollar card then I guess you make sense. Telling somebody to get as much card for the money as you can is more like it. If I asked what the biggest truck I could get for $10000 was would you steer me to a $9000 truck because its "almost" the same size? If I put bigger tires on it then it will be?

Lol i like you =) you are funny. If you want a Nvidia card then get the 670 if you want an AMD then get a 7970 ghz. No argument here.
a c 134 U Graphics card
February 6, 2013 10:11:02 PM

In the end its all about getting the best you can with the money that you have to spend. People buy things for different reasons. People have different approaches to it I don't see the fault in what he had to say nor do I with you. Just a difference in opinion no reason though to hold him over the embers of a fire. Its just a difference in viewpoint nothing more nothing less.
February 6, 2013 10:16:44 PM

Thanks Dr. Phil
a c 134 U Graphics card
February 6, 2013 10:20:12 PM

I'd like to keep the forums somewhat civil if possible. It takes more effort for me to be a jerk then it does to be nice.
February 6, 2013 10:31:08 PM

The Dr. Phil joke was actually a compliment. I admire his ability to show true empathy and tear your head off at the same time. You are right about the conflict of perspectives earlier.
a b U Graphics card
February 6, 2013 10:31:36 PM

^ i agree
a c 134 U Graphics card
February 6, 2013 10:41:55 PM

Well thank you then. In my eyes I get the best card I can get. In my eyes when you spend that amount of money on a card you expect it to live up to the cash. If overclocking is your thing great but I think for a lot of people they just want something that just works.
February 6, 2013 10:54:05 PM

Most definitely they do. And Im the same way. Ill use EVERY bit of my building budget.
a c 82 U Graphics card
February 6, 2013 11:07:45 PM

7970 is beast. u dont need anything else tbh. why waste money

February 6, 2013 11:15:09 PM

To me if its in the budget its not wasting. I know it sure as hell isn't saving...
February 6, 2013 11:50:48 PM

Quote:
A 7970GHz absolutely destroys a GTX680 at stock and when overclocked leaves the GTX680 in the dust, not to mention 384-bit bus and Eyefinity.


Don't say stuff like this. People might believe it.
a c 82 U Graphics card
February 7, 2013 12:33:55 AM

well its true, check the benches stock 7970 equals a 680 and beats it at times overclocked theres no competition there.

the vapor-x 7970 is a beast

will nuke any 670 in the water.

a c 134 U Graphics card
February 7, 2013 12:37:27 AM

The 670 is best positioned as the best value at the high end range of cards. The 7970 ghz is just the best single card without going into a sli/cf or dual gpu solution.
a b U Graphics card
February 7, 2013 12:44:16 AM

bigshootr8 said:
The 670 is best positioned as the best value at the high end range of cards. The 7970 ghz is just the best single card without going into a sli/cf or dual gpu solution.

Here is what i think of the situation. Say one dollar represents a unit of performance to price ratio. The 7970 ghz is at the same level or amount of units of performance to price ratio as the 670 it just costs more. Meaning the 7970 ghz is at the same level of performance to price ratio as the GTX 670 it just rose the price and performance of one equally.

EDIT: Sorry this seems kind of repetitive. I am having a hard time explaining this one.
a c 134 U Graphics card
February 7, 2013 12:46:10 AM

Right so if you buy a 670 at a lower price chances are if you were comparing the two through a blind test someone couldn't tell you the difference. Unless they were staring at a fps counter.
a b U Graphics card
February 7, 2013 12:59:02 AM

bigshootr8 said:
Right so if you buy a 670 at a lower price chances are if you were comparing the two through a blind test someone couldn't tell you the difference. Unless they were staring at a fps counter.

For the most part yes, but some games at maxed out on large res monitors IE: 2560x1600 those cards would differ about 10-15 fps or so and would be hovering in the 20-50 fps region where that difference in fps matters.
a c 82 U Graphics card
February 7, 2013 1:18:26 AM

670 gets pwned by a 7970. also amd fixed most issues with the 7900 series.

670 is highest for nvidia for the price per performance ratio. and 7970 is king of amd.

so its good either side of the barn depends if u favour nvidia or amd. or none at all.

a c 134 U Graphics card
February 7, 2013 1:35:58 AM

helper800 said:
For the most part yes, but some games at maxed out on large res monitors IE: 2560x1600 those cards would differ about 10-15 fps or so and would be hovering in the 20-50 fps region where that difference in fps matters.



Right and depending on the resolution you ran on you would buy a card based on that AMD cards are better typically for higher resolution displays because of the higher memory bandwidth and more ram that they come stock with.
February 7, 2013 12:47:36 PM

iceclock said:
well its true, check the benches stock 7970 equals a 680 and beats it at times overclocked theres no competition there.

the vapor-x 7970 is a beast

will nuke any 670 in the water.


"Absolutely destroys at stock" and equals sometimes beats are very different statements based on specific situations so no its still not true.
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