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May 1, 2005 3:18:26 AM

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I Made up a new Ethernet cable and I can now
stream shows directly from the RePlay to my PC
for viewing full screen on a 19" LCD monitor.
I also tried downloading a show to the PC's hard drive
and the D/L speed was between 1.12 and 1.3 megs/sec.
Previously I could only D/L 150 - 250kps.
Incidentally, this was with two Ethernet and two wireless
PC's using the router at the same time.
I am very pleased.
Now I am gong to replace the cable ends on the old cable
hoping that this will repair the old cable as I really don't want
to pull a new cable from the PC room to the TV room.
( the new cable is just lying on the floor in the open right now)
As an added bonus DvArchive also removed the commercials
from the show. I am impressed. btw I have a 5504 replay.
Thanks for your help guys.
Regards,
JR


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Anonymous
May 1, 2005 3:18:27 AM

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On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 23:18:26 GMT, "JR" <racmsc@epix.net> wrote:

>I Made up a new Ethernet cable and I can now
>stream shows directly from the RePlay to my PC
>for viewing full screen on a 19" LCD monitor.
>I also tried downloading a show to the PC's hard drive
>and the D/L speed was between 1.12 and 1.3 megs/sec.

Mega BITS or mega BYTES? People use both so you really need to
specify.

>Previously I could only D/L 150 - 250kps.

Left out the 'b' again. Supposedly, it's 'b' for bits and 'B' for
bytes, but people do get these mixed up. Looks like you mean
150-250KBps (equal to 1.2-2Mbps).

Note that software (inmcluding the Replay) often gives the speed in
bytes, but internet and network devices usually use bits.

100Mbps (BITS per second. as in ethernet) is equal to 12.5MBps (BYTES
per second). Wireless at 11Mbps = 1.4Mbps. And with all the overhead
(a lot greater than with wired), this could be too slow for streaming.

>Incidentally, this was with two Ethernet and two wireless
>PC's using the router at the same time.

The network is switched, so the presence of a wireless connection will
not significantly slow down any wired connections.

> I am very pleased.
>Now I am gong to replace the cable ends on the old cable
>hoping that this will repair the old cable as I really don't want
>to pull a new cable from the PC room to the TV room.
>( the new cable is just lying on the floor in the open right now)
>As an added bonus DvArchive also removed the commercials
>from the show. I am impressed. btw I have a 5504 replay.
>Thanks for your help guys.

Glad to see you got it working.

>Regards,
> JR

--
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"The idea that there is an invisible being who
created and still runs this old universe is so
childish, so obviously contrived, that it is hard to
believe anyone with even a modicum of education can
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May 1, 2005 8:00:50 AM

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Mark,
The download speed prior to replacing the cable was 150 - 250Kbps.
After replacing the cable, and incidentally, replacing the ends on the old
cable, the download speed is 1.12 - 1.3 MBps. Nearly a 10 fold increase.
I suspect that the bad cable ends were causing the 10/100T NIC to fall
back to 10Mbps. Apparently I didn't take enough care making up the original
cable... My Bad.
Thanks for the Speed lesson =)
Regards,
JR

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"Mark Lloyd" <mlloyd@5xxxmail.com5xxx> wrote in message
news:5i68719v4c2ta4377oj91t5rlmnq5bn532@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 23:18:26 GMT, "JR" <racmsc@epix.net> wrote:
>
>>I Made up a new Ethernet cable and I can now
>>stream shows directly from the RePlay to my PC
>>for viewing full screen on a 19" LCD monitor.
>>I also tried downloading a show to the PC's hard drive
>>and the D/L speed was between 1.12 and 1.3 megs/sec.
>
> Mega BITS or mega BYTES? People use both so you really need to
> specify.
>
>>Previously I could only D/L 150 - 250kps.
>
> Left out the 'b' again. Supposedly, it's 'b' for bits and 'B' for
> bytes, but people do get these mixed up. Looks like you mean
> 150-250KBps (equal to 1.2-2Mbps).
>
> Note that software (inmcluding the Replay) often gives the speed in
> bytes, but internet and network devices usually use bits.
>
> 100Mbps (BITS per second. as in ethernet) is equal to 12.5MBps (BYTES
> per second). Wireless at 11Mbps = 1.4Mbps. And with all the overhead
> (a lot greater than with wired), this could be too slow for streaming.
>
>>Incidentally, this was with two Ethernet and two wireless
>>PC's using the router at the same time.
>
> The network is switched, so the presence of a wireless connection will
> not significantly slow down any wired connections.
>
>> I am very pleased.
>>Now I am gong to replace the cable ends on the old cable
>>hoping that this will repair the old cable as I really don't want
>>to pull a new cable from the PC room to the TV room.
>>( the new cable is just lying on the floor in the open right now)
>>As an added bonus DvArchive also removed the commercials
>>from the show. I am impressed. btw I have a 5504 replay.
>>Thanks for your help guys.
>
> Glad to see you got it working.
>
>>Regards,
>> JR
>
> --
> Mark Lloyd
> has a Replay 5xxx
> http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com
>
> "The idea that there is an invisible being who
> created and still runs this old universe is so
> childish, so obviously contrived, that it is hard to
> believe anyone with even a modicum of education can
> still fall for that scam."
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Anonymous
May 1, 2005 2:04:17 PM

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On Sun, 01 May 2005 04:00:50 GMT, "JR" <racmsc@epix.net> wrote:

>Mark,
> The download speed prior to replacing the cable was 150 - 250Kbps.

18.75-31.25KBps, Very slow.

>After replacing the cable, and incidentally, replacing the ends on the old
>cable, the download speed is 1.12 - 1.3 MBps.

8.96-10.4Mbps, something more common with networks.

> Nearly a 10 fold increase.
>I suspect that the bad cable ends were causing the 10/100T NIC to fall
>back to 10Mbps.

Could be. I had a cable that would work fine in a 10Mbps network, but
did not work right at 100Mbps.

> Apparently I didn't take enough care making up the original
>cable... My Bad.
>Thanks for the Speed lesson =)
>Regards,
> JR

--
Mark Lloyd
has a Replay 5xxx
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"The idea that there is an invisible being who
created and still runs this old universe is so
childish, so obviously contrived, that it is hard to
believe anyone with even a modicum of education can
still fall for that scam."
Anonymous
May 2, 2005 1:38:20 PM

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As for pulling a new cable... This is easier in many cases where you are
replacing an old cable. So long as the old cable was not stapled to a
wall anywhere here is how you do it.

Lay about six inches of the new cable up along side the same amount of
the old cable, starting on the new cable about 2 inches from the
overlap, start wrapping electrical tape (toward the overlap) wrap over
the connector, wrap over the overlap, wrap over the new connector and
about two inches beyond, now wrap back about 2 turns, carefully pull
cable, either unwrap or carefully cut the tape to remove it.

Saves re-routing it, note, if it runs around, over and under, a bunch of
stuff you may have to pull in sections but it is still easier than
running a new cable, way easier

JR wrote:
> I Made up a new Ethernet cable and I can now
> stream shows directly from the RePlay to my PC
> for viewing full screen on a 19" LCD monitor.
> I also tried downloading a show to the PC's hard drive
> and the D/L speed was between 1.12 and 1.3 megs/sec.
> Previously I could only D/L 150 - 250kps.
> Incidentally, this was with two Ethernet and two wireless
> PC's using the router at the same time.
> I am very pleased.
> Now I am gong to replace the cable ends on the old cable
> hoping that this will repair the old cable as I really don't want
> to pull a new cable from the PC room to the TV room.
> ( the new cable is just lying on the floor in the open right now)
> As an added bonus DvArchive also removed the commercials
> from the show. I am impressed. btw I have a 5504 replay.
> Thanks for your help guys.
> Regards,
> JR
>
>

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May 2, 2005 7:23:36 PM

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Great to hear!

I'd have to agree with John, though. Replacing the wire should be much
easier. Chop off the clips, tape the new to the old and pull it
through. Then put on new clips.

If you made the old cable yourself, then the new one may have the same
problems, though. When you run it, avoid kinks, twists, tight turns,
and power lines. Try to cross power lines rather than run parallel to
them, and keep it nice and loose everywhere.

I don't think the clips caused the problem, unless the were wired up
consistently but incorrectly (forgetting to overlap pairs). Usually the
failure mode for bad clips is "nothing works at all".
Anonymous
May 2, 2005 7:23:37 PM

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On Mon, 02 May 2005 15:23:36 GMT, ST <tringali@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Great to hear!
>
>I'd have to agree with John, though. Replacing the wire should be much
>easier. Chop off the clips, tape the new to the old and pull it
>through. Then put on new clips.
>
>If you made the old cable yourself, then the new one may have the same
>problems, though. When you run it, avoid kinks, twists, tight turns,
>and power lines. Try to cross power lines rather than run parallel to
>them, and keep it nice and loose everywhere.
>
>I don't think the clips caused the problem, unless the were wired up
>consistently but incorrectly (forgetting to overlap pairs). Usually the
>failure mode for bad clips is "nothing works at all".

Also (especially for 100Mbps), make sure the pairs are connected
correctly. That is, pins 3&6 need to connect to the wires in THE SAME
pair. That was the problem I had with one cable (worked at 10Mbps but
not 100).

--
Mark Lloyd
has a Replay 5xxx
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"The idea that there is an invisible being who
created and still runs this old universe is so
childish, so obviously contrived, that it is hard to
believe anyone with even a modicum of education can
still fall for that scam."
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