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Replacing nVidia 9800 GT - $120 budget

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February 7, 2013 9:30:51 AM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: This week

USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: FSX most important. Some other 3D games but I don't game the most up-to-date titles (Mass Effect 3 would be my most recent buy), and I'm usualy happy to trade some quality for performance.

CURRENT GPU AND POWER SUPPLY: BFG nVidia 9800 GT 1GB with a 375 W PSU.

OTHER RELEVANT SYSTEM SPECS: Dell XPS 420 Q6600 2.4 MHz, 4GB RAM, Vista Ultimate 32-bit.

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: Dabs.ie, Komplett.ie, PC World COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: Ireland

PARTS PREFERENCES: nVidia

OVERCLOCKING: No SLI OR CROSSFIRE: No

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1680x1050

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: If the 9800 wasn't failing, I wouldn;t be replacing it, so I'm looking to maintain performance rather than increase it. In any case, FSX is more CPU-dependent for graphics performance.

What I'm wondering is whether I can get a way with a less expensive card. I see that the PCI Express buss is rated at 16GB/sec memory bandwidth. My current card offers 57 GB/sec. Does the interface limit effectively mean any card giving more than 16 GB/sec is effectively a waste because 16 is the effective maximum?

Some cards I'm considering:

PNY NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650 PCI-E Graphics Card - 1 GB
http://www.pcworld.ie/Product/PNY-NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-65...


PNY NVIDIA GeForce GT 630 PCI-E Graphics Card - 1 GB
http://www.pcworld.ie/Product/PNY-NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-630...

Zotac GeForce GT 640 1GB PCI-Express 3.0 HDMI Synergy
http://www.dabs.ie/products/zotac-geforce-gt-640-1gb-pc...

Palit GeForce GTX 650 1071MHz 1GB PCI-Express 3.0 HDMI
http://www.dabs.ie/products/best-value-palit-geforce-gt...

EVGA GeForce GT 620 1GB
http://www.komplett.ie/komplett/product/zkb_01com/80007...

Thanks,

Holdit
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February 7, 2013 10:03:13 AM

Holdit said:
APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: This week

USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: FSX most important. Some other 3D games but I don't game the most up-to-date titles (Mass Effect 3 would be my most recent buy), and I'm usualy happy to trade some quality for performance.

CURRENT GPU AND POWER SUPPLY: BFG nVidia 9800 GT 1GB with a 375 W PSU.

OTHER RELEVANT SYSTEM SPECS: Dell XPS 420 Q6600 2.4 MHz, 4GB RAM, Vista Ultimate 32-bit.

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: Dabs.ie, Komplett.ie, PC World COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: Ireland

PARTS PREFERENCES: nVidia

OVERCLOCKING: No SLI OR CROSSFIRE: No

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1680x1050

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: If the 9800 wasn't failing, I wouldn;t be replacing it, so I'm looking to maintain performance rather than increase it. In any case, FSX is more CPU-dependent for graphics performance.

What I'm wondering is whether I can get a way with a less expensive card. I see that the PCI Express buss is rated at 16GB/sec memory bandwidth. My current card offers 57 GB/sec. Does the interface limit effectively mean any card giving more than 16 GB/sec is effectively a waste because 16 is the effective maximum?

Some cards I'm considering:

PNY NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650 PCI-E Graphics Card - 1 GB
http://www.pcworld.ie/Product/PNY-NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-65...


PNY NVIDIA GeForce GT 630 PCI-E Graphics Card - 1 GB
http://www.pcworld.ie/Product/PNY-NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-630...

Zotac GeForce GT 640 1GB PCI-Express 3.0 HDMI Synergy
http://www.dabs.ie/products/zotac-geforce-gt-640-1gb-pc...

Palit GeForce GTX 650 1071MHz 1GB PCI-Express 3.0 HDMI
http://www.dabs.ie/products/best-value-palit-geforce-gt...

EVGA GeForce GT 620 1GB
http://www.komplett.ie/komplett/product/zkb_01com/80007...

Thanks,

Holdit



One of the 650's would be comparable to your 9800, would not go any lower than that or you may be disappointed with your purchase. Your 9800 is indeed an old card, but in its day, it was one of the best cards you could buy for the money performance-wise. The bandwidth figures you are looking at mean nothing really in direct relation to one another. One is the bandwidth of the slot, the other is the bandwidth of the memory interface on the card, one does not mean the other is "bottlenecking" anything. Do not attempt to gauge a cards speed by looking at the specifications details, while they are important, you cannot gauge a cards performance by specs alone. Refer to benchmarks and real world tests on hardware sites like Tom's to see how they really do once you install them and boot-up.
February 7, 2013 10:36:19 AM

Thanks, that's exactly the kind of information I was looking for.

Am I right in thinking a PCI E 3.0 card will work in a PCIE 2.0 slot?

Holdit
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February 7, 2013 10:42:14 AM

Holdit said:
Thanks, that's exactly the kind of information I was looking for.

Am I right in thinking a PCI E 3.0 card will work in a PCIE 2.0 slot?

Holdit



Yep, it will work.
February 7, 2013 11:21:04 AM

Great.

No issues with the 375 W PSU?

It didn't have any trouble running the 9800 GT, and from what I've read it seems that Dell understate PSU wattage.

Holdit
a b U Graphics card
February 9, 2013 1:28:32 PM

If a 9800 ran okay, the new card should be fine.
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