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A8-5500 + 1GB HD 6570 (fanless) for a low-profile HTPC?

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February 7, 2013 10:57:13 PM

Hello,
Would the aforementioned hardware be sufficient for running Minecraft, PCSX2, and Dolphin at 720p with a decent framerate?

Also, can anyone recommend a CPU cooler that would work for this APU (ideally quietly, bonus points if it's less than $30) and fit into a Silverstone ML03B case?

Edit: The proposed part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/C9qA
It's a work in progress, so please don't judge too harshly.
February 7, 2013 11:03:22 PM

720p gaming isn't all that taxing. I don't play any of the games you listed but you'll get plenty of pop out of an A8 with a 6570. I have an A4 with a 5570 that plays 1680X1050 with low/ medium res settings on a lot of games.
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February 7, 2013 11:19:52 PM

I actually recommend just getting the APU.

I assume you already have a motherboard. The 6570 would do hybrid-crossfire with that APU, but crossfire is usually more headache than it is worth.

Consider getting the A10-5700, it is the same wattage, but has a lot more GPU power than the A8-5500, only for a little more. Obviously I wouldn't get the 6570 anyways, so in the end it is cheaper.

The 212+evo is a good fan cooler, around the $30 you are asking, but I don't think it is really needed. Stick with the stock fan, if it isn't cool or it is too loud, then go ahead and get an aftermarket fan. This is just my opinion, and other people are likely to disagree.

Edit: The 212+evo is taller than the case is, so it won't work. (I also tweaked some wording) There aren't a huge number of low profile fans (well there are but most of them seem far too cheap to be worth it).
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February 8, 2013 8:25:42 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD A10-5700 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($128.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Gelid Solutions CC-Siberian-01 51.9 CFM CPU Cooler ($9.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A75 Pro4-M Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard ($71.97 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($49.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($157.99 @ Adorama)
Case: Silverstone ML03B HTPC Case ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG UH12NS29 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($49.98 @ Outlet PC)
Other: InfiniTV 4 PCIe ($199.00)
Other: Wifi Adapter ($30.00)
Total: $772.88
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-08 05:15 EST-0500)

I tried my best to get something close to what you picked out, but I did change come things.

1st if the APU. I went for a stronger one and dropped the graphics card.
2nd is the RAM. This is higher quality, higher performance, higher capacity, and within 10% of the price.
3rd is the storage. You obviously plan to record TV to your hard drive. So I recommend getting at least 2TB, 1TB will fill up fast. I dropped the SSD, but if you must be able to load the OS fast, then re-add it, but that is more personal preference, and isn't going to affect your games (based on the ones you mentioned.)
4th is the sound card. Unless you are spending a lot more, a cheap sound card won't be any different than the onboard audio. Again, you can re-add it, but I assure you it will add nothing to your build but cost.
5th is the PSU. 80+ gold is overkill, so I am saving you a few dollars there.

Things are otherwise identical. This should make for a nice HTPC. Please let me know how things turn out.

P.S. There is nothing 'wrong' with your part choices, they would do what you are asking of them the same as the parts I put forth, but seeing as mine is a bit cheaper (I really hope I didn't forget something, that would be embarrassing), and you can still tweak a few dollars out of it (1TB instead of 2TB should save you $70.)


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-3225 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($136.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Gelid Solutions CC-Siberian-01 51.9 CFM CPU Cooler ($9.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($49.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($157.99 @ Adorama)
Case: Silverstone ML03B HTPC Case ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG UH12NS29 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($49.98 @ Outlet PC)
Other: InfiniTV 4 PCIe ($199.00)
Other: Wifi Adapter ($30.00)
Total: $788.90
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-08 05:36 EST-0500)

This is a pretty comparable Intel build. I didn't use the same motherboard because it would have been a lot more expensive, otherwise, the build is the same.
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February 8, 2013 9:29:38 AM

Watch out when using Dolphin and PCSX2 - They are EXTREMELY CPU heavy in terms of Clock speed and Single Thread performance.

I recommend going for an Intel CPU with a cheap GPU - Something like a Core i3 with a decent clock speed will keep PCSX2 running nicely (it only uses 2 threads), because the IPC on the Intel chips are much higher.

I have noticed that the trinity chips perform very well due to their high clock speeds though, the A10 - 5800K should outperform anything Intel based at the same price, mainly due to the IGP being so advanced.

tl:D r - Cheap Intel Chip (i3) + Cheap GPU = Good
- Cheap APU + Cheap GPU - Not so good
- Expensive APU with no discrete GPU - Good
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February 8, 2013 10:00:20 AM

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Ccim
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Ccim/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Ccim/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD A8-5500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($104.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master GeminII M4 58.4 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A75 Pro4-M Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard ($71.97 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston HyperX T1 Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($46.22 @ Mac Connection)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V200 Series 64GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($56.68 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Green 1TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($75.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Sound Card: Asus Xonar DG 24-bit 96 KHz Sound Card ($26.99 @ Best Buy)
Case: Silverstone ML03B HTPC Case ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 360W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: LG UH12NS29 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($49.98 @ Outlet PC)
Other: Ceton InfiniTV 4 ($199.00)
Other: HIS Silence H657HJ1G Radeon HD 6570 1GB 64-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready Low Profile Ready Video Card ($59.99)
Other: Rosewill N900PCE Wireless N Dual Band Adapter IEEE 802.11a/b/g/n PCI Express Up to 450Mbps Wireless Data Rates Support 64/128 bit WEP, WPA-PSK/WPA2-PSK, 802.1X ($34.99)
Total: $881.76
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-08 06:59 EST-0500)

cm gemini sweet lowprofile cooler :) 

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February 8, 2013 5:18:04 PM

Deadjon, he shouldn't use a 100W APU, he wants his build to be quiet. That's the reason I suggested the A10 5700, or an i3 w/ HD 4000.

Iceclock, why did you prefer to keep the weaker APU and the dGPU? Obviously the only thing you changed was the cooler. No comment on my build(s) or Deadjons advice?

Adding the low profile GPU to the Intel build would make it pretty powerful (perhaps more so than the APU without GPU)
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February 8, 2013 7:39:42 PM

cuz i provided a solid build for the budget. do the math

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