gear and moisture

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Ouch. Maybe this scheme will look better:


I----------------------I
I [closet] I
I I
I I------------I
I [y] I I
I I [shower] I
x I [curtain] I
x I
x [bathroom] I
x----------------------I

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In article <e6236419.0408211328.612eaf8@posting.google.com> ot7doc@yahoo.com writes:

> My ideal recording room for a number of songs is a closet/bathroom
> combo. I would like to set my amp and dynamic mic up in the closet,
> which is around a corner from the shower. And I'd like to leave it
> set up.

At least take the mic out when you take a shower, and put a plastic
bag over the amplifier. You're probably careful enough to not splash
water on them, but the humidity will go up and that's not good. If
it's cold enough in the room, you might even get some condensation.

Geez, the things that people ask about doing for the sake of laziness.

Or is this really Phil Allison trolling for people who don't
understand relative humidity?



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Nat wrote:

> My ideal recording room for a number of songs is a closet/bathroom
> combo. I would like to set my amp and dynamic mic up in the closet,
> which is around a corner from the shower. And I'd like to leave it
> set up. Any moisture from the shower that escapes the fan has to
> travel around a corner to get to the mic and amp. I'm not sure how
> much moisture it takes to hurt things like this, so I'm curious.
> Would you worry about this if it was your gear?

Absolutely ! It's not the *moisture* ( as in water droplets ) but the
humidity in the air that can do damage. Humidity is the amount of water
carried in the air itself and most certainly *does* go round corners.


Graham

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Would I worry? Let me count the ways:

1) Humidity in the air, from the shower > microphone. If it's a condenser,
expect capsule failure in a relatively short time. If you're lucky, it'll
start working again when it dried out.

2) Humidity > speaker cone. Mold. Rot.

3) Humidity > amp chassis. If it's steel, > rust.

4) Humidity > amp circuitry. If it's tubes, and it condenses on the wrong
places, ZOT.

That's just a start. Don't do it. Really, don't do it.

Peace,
Paul

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> Geez, the things that people ask about doing for the sake of laziness.

Efficiency! Seriously, my life has zero spare time. Any time savers
I can figure out, I use. I guess this won't be one of them.

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On 21 Aug 2004 14:28:41 -0700, ot7doc@yahoo.com (Nat) wrote:

>My ideal recording room for a number of songs is a closet/bathroom
>combo. I would like to set my amp and dynamic mic up in the closet,
>which is around a corner from the shower. And I'd like to leave it
>set up. Any moisture from the shower that escapes the fan has to
>travel around a corner to get to the mic and amp. I'm not sure how
>much moisture it takes to hurt things like this, so I'm curious.
>Would you worry about this if it was your gear?

Don't do it. Period.

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Laurence Payne <l@laurenceDELETEpayne.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>On 21 Aug 2004 14:28:41 -0700, ot7doc@yahoo.com (Nat) wrote:
>
>>My ideal recording room for a number of songs is a closet/bathroom
>>combo. I would like to set my amp and dynamic mic up in the closet,
>>which is around a corner from the shower. And I'd like to leave it
>>set up. Any moisture from the shower that escapes the fan has to
>>travel around a corner to get to the mic and amp. I'm not sure how
>>much moisture it takes to hurt things like this, so I'm curious.
>>Would you worry about this if it was your gear?
>
>Don't do it. Period.

I agree. If you absolutely need something like this set up all the time,
get a purpose-built tiled room. You probably have enough space in your
attic to set up at least a small tiled chamber. In a pinch, you can call
a concrete company and order a precast septic tank for your backyard.

The alternative is to use equipment intended for outdoor use. Tannoy makes
some small i5AW speakers that would be respectable, then take a 635A and
put a condom over it with some dessicant in there.
--scott
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In <e6236419.0408211328.612eaf8@posting.google.com>, on 08/21/04
at 02:28 PM, ot7doc@yahoo.com (Nat) said:

>My ideal recording room for a number of songs is a closet/bathroom
>combo. I would like to set my amp and dynamic mic up in the closet,
>which is around a corner from the shower. And I'd like to leave it
>set up. Any moisture from the shower that escapes the fan has to
>travel around a corner to get to the mic and amp. I'm not sure how
>much moisture it takes to hurt things like this, so I'm curious.
>Would you worry about this if it was your gear?

>I could take real fast showers in the name of leaving my gear out, if
>I have to. The schematic is something like this ("x" marks the door,"
>"y" marks the closest the amp would ever be near the shower, depending
>on what kind of sound I'm going for):

[ ...]

You could learn a lot by measuring the humidity over a few weeks. If
it is too high, take action such as sealing the door or using some
positive air pressure in the closet. You may also find that you don't
have a problem.

Unless you are literally singing in the shower, you could store the
microphone in another spot. (Unlike the amplifier, the microphone is
small and can easily be disconnected and carried away.)

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> You could learn a lot by measuring the humidity over a few weeks. If
> it is too high, take action such as sealing the door or using some
> positive air pressure in the closet. You may also find that you don't
> have a problem.
>
> Unless you are literally singing in the shower, you could store the
> microphone in another spot. (Unlike the amplifier, the microphone is
> small and can easily be disconnected and carried away.)
>

Sounds like the path of least resistance is carrying stuff. I can
live with that. Of course, living in northern Indiana, the summer
humidity in the rest of my house is probably worse than the shower
room itself...