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February 8, 2013 3:27:59 PM

Hi everyone, I'm building a new gaming PC and I haven't yet decided on a graphics card. I plan to play at 1080p on max settings, I intend to play almost every blockbuster AAA game that will be released this year (especially Crysis 3) and next year, and I would like to enjoy a smooth experience at playable framerates (over 45 FPS).

I'm considering buying a GTX 660 ti, GTX 670, Radeon 7950 or Radeon 7970.

I know that the 192 bit memory interface limits the GTX 660 ti bandwith, but there are models of the GTX 660 ti with 3GB of VRAM (like the evga gtx 660 ti sc + 3gb). Do you think that with 3GB of vram and as it has the same 1344 cuda cores as the GTX 670, I'll get similar performance to a GTX 670 out of the box? Or should I overclock the memory?

Which card do you recommend?

Thanks in advance.

CPU: Intel Core I5 3570k
Motherboard: Gigabyte B75 D3H
RAM: Kingston 4GB Hyperx Blu 1600Mhz
PSU: Antec EA Green 650W
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February 8, 2013 3:35:37 PM

depends on your budget

if cost isnt an issue then 7970 or gtx670

i decided to get a 7970 over the gtx670

3gb of ram and also opencl power for photoshop cs6

though gtx670 is more power efficient
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February 8, 2013 3:36:17 PM

I would get whichever is cheaper between the 670 and 7970. Currently the 7970 has a game bundle with crysis 3 and bioshock infinite. To answer your question about memory no, having more memory will not make a 660ti as powerful as a 670. I don't even use 2GB at 2560x1440. Overclocking memory doesn't do as much as overclocking the core does.
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February 8, 2013 4:07:41 PM

You have a crossfire board so you might want to stick with a amd card so later on you can pick up a second used card when the system gets older and starts to fall behind.

I bought a used hd-4870 for $200 when it was about 6 months old.
It started to fall behind in games so i bought a second one for $50 used.
When the first card was 6 months old crossfire was poor and most games only supported one or two cores.
I later upgraded to a Quad core. By then most games supported more than 2 cores and crossfire support improved.

Two hd-7970's is expensive and overkill today, but down the road a picking up a used second hd-7970 for cheap will be a decent upgrade and save you money later on.
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February 8, 2013 4:23:57 PM

Thanks for your answers.
Actually, I could afford a 670 or 7970, but I would rather buy a 660 ti or 7950 if those cards will achieve high FPS on current and future games on 1080p and max settings. I'm looking for the best bang for buck.
And isn't a crossfire configuration using this board limited since the second pci-e slot works at x4 electrically and not 16x???
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February 8, 2013 4:36:58 PM

yeah I wouldn't even look at a 660ti based upon the games you want to play and the fact you seen to want to play them all with as much eye candy turned on. Since you do have a CF board then I would also go with AMD solution ( also you get two free games both are AAA titles) which means a 7950 or 7970 budget depending. That being said if you don't have the cash you maybe able to get one of the 7870 LE/XT models those sell about $240ish and are similar to a 7950 (should have been called 7930) but you can cf with any 7900 card.
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February 8, 2013 5:37:20 PM

I've looked at a lot of reviews out there that show that the gtx 660 ti is faster than the 7950 in a few games.
Also, I don't intend to max out every settings, in AA I won't be exceeding 4x msaa, I might even use fxaa or txaa.
Those features make me want to buy a NVidia card, and also adaptive vsync and PhysX.
So what do you think?
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February 8, 2013 5:50:57 PM

Buying Considerations

Like most tech products, graphics cards are segmented by price. Expensive cards tend to be more capable; and less expensive ones usually offer lower performance, consume less power, and are smaller in size (and so fit into a greater range of PC cases).

$400 and Up

The highest-priced cards deliver the strongest graphics performance, but they're also more power hungry. Both Nvidia and AMD have released a new generation of GPUs that are more power-efficient than their predecessors, but you'll still want a good 550 600-watt power supply to run these types of cards. At the extreme high end are dual-GPU cards, such as Nvidia's GTX 690. You can expect to spend close to $1000 for one of these.

One Nvidia GeForce GTX 680 or AMD Radeon HD 7970GHz should be able to run most games at high frame rates on 1080p monitors with settings at very high. Some games may show frame rate stuttering at ultra detail levels, so you'll need to test each game. If you have a high-end, 30-inch display running at 2560 by 1600, you'll need to manage your detail settings more carefully, unless you have a dual-GPU card, like the GTX 690, or are willing to install two discrete graphics cards.

$300 to $350

Cards in this category include the Nvidia GeForce GTX 670 and the AMD Radeon HD 7950. They offer performance that is nearly as good as that of the high-end models, but at a more modest price. If you stick with a 1080p or 1920 by 1200 display with one of these cards, you should be in good shape.

$200 to $300

At this level you may have to start making some sacrifices in detail settings. For GPUs such as the AMD Radeon HD 7870, that means running at "high" rather than at "very high" detail level, and it almost certainly means disabling antialiasing. I would recommend Sapphire's HD 7950 Vapor-X comes with a large dual-fan cooler that uses the company's famous vapor-chamber technology. On the Vapor-X you will also find a "Lethal Boost" button which switches to a second BIOS with higher clock speeds. With this BIOS, clocks are increased to 950 MHz GPU and 1250 MHz memory.
Pricing of the Sapphire HD 7950 Vapor-X is $330 which is a 10% premium. Also,MSI's GTX 670 Power Edition uses the famous Twin Frozr IV cooler from the MSI Lightning and comes with a large clock speed boost out of the box, making its default clock speed even higher than GTX 680 stock clocks.That would be a solid choice for the price imo they currently are going for $389.99 a piece that doesn't look unreasonable, given the improved cooling and higher clocks but it's up to you.
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February 8, 2013 5:54:26 PM

ivanosky said:
Thanks for your answers.
Actually, I could afford a 670 or 7970, but I would rather buy a 660 ti or 7950 if those cards will achieve high FPS on current and future games on 1080p and max settings. I'm looking for the best bang for buck.
And isn't a crossfire configuration using this board limited since the second pci-e slot works at x4 electrically and not 16x???


Good call Ivanosky. Yeah, the 4x will limit your Crossfire performance.
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February 8, 2013 6:50:20 PM

It is 4x on my Fm1 board too but i seem to get decent framerates with that setup.

Tom's did test this if you look it up you will see the scaling is not hurt that much by having the second slot run at 4x.

What i am talking about is a few years down the road you buy a second hd-7970 used for something like $100 or less, by then the hd-9970 and 880GTX will be out. Two hd-7970's should add up to a single card that is out by then saving you from buying a $300 to $400 card.

True if you are going to buy two hd-7970's today, its worth it to sell your current board and buy a faster one.
I suppose then you could opt for sli too.

But i though you were going to buy a single card for now? Buying a nvidia card means you can't buy a used second card later on without doing a board swap. By then socket 1155 will be toast and might be hard to find just like socket 1156 today.
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February 8, 2013 6:50:25 PM

Going to need some expectation management, friend.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/far-cry-3-performan...

The 7970 and 670 are already under your requirement for 45fps average in Far Cry 3. Crysis 3 is looking painful as well (there is a whole thread here on C3 performance). Drivers will help over time.

Not having max settings isn't that bad...
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February 8, 2013 7:15:40 PM

That memory kit you have should clock to 1799mhz, i have the exact same kit.
1.65volts, 1600 timings. If it's the same kit the spd is at 1333 and 1.5volts so you have to manually select 1600 and change the voltage.

I am not sure if the memory will do that with a intel chipset or not.
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February 11, 2013 1:23:02 PM

The motherboard only lets me clock the memory to 1600.
I think I'm getting the 670, the 660 ti is is very limited with it's 192 bit memory interface, and I like NVidia cards, they have a lot of features (FXAA, TXAA, Adaptive Vsync, PhysX).
I recently played Batman Arkham Cit with my old GTX 470 SC and the PhysX effects are amazing.
One last question, considering the board and PSU I listed, could I use may old card as a PhysX dedicated card???
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February 11, 2013 1:43:23 PM

I'm using the 660 ti and with it I can play Crysis 3 Beta maxed @35fps on the average with msaa 4x and 40+ with txaa or fxaa at 1080p resolution.
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