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Anonymous
July 6, 2005 2:01:02 PM

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I was thinking of using a used RTV to manually record movies from a DVD
to watch later. I want to be able to take the "movie" with me by
carrying the RTV.

Can I get an old one without a subscription and use it for this limited
function.

Joel
Anonymous
July 6, 2005 6:02:35 PM

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Nope, sorry.

Regards,

Margaret

"joelpk" <jkollin@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1120669262.881034.137710@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>I was thinking of using a used RTV to manually record movies from a DVD
> to watch later. I want to be able to take the "movie" with me by
> carrying the RTV.
>
> Can I get an old one without a subscription and use it for this limited
> function.
>
> Joel
>
Anonymous
July 6, 2005 8:51:02 PM

Archived from groups: alt.video.ptv.replaytv (More info?)

On 6 Jul 2005 10:01:02 -0700, "joelpk" <jkollin@gmail.com> wrote:

>I was thinking of using a used RTV to manually record movies from a DVD
>to watch later. I want to be able to take the "movie" with me by
>carrying the RTV.
>
>Can I get an old one without a subscription and use it for this limited
>function.
>
>Joel


That sort of question has really been asked a lot of times. The answer
continues to be "no". Without a subscription, all the Replay will
allow you to do is set certain options (throght the menu) and conact
the Replay service.

Considering storing DVD content on the Replay:

1. Replay video is NTSC only, which is of limited quality compared to
what's on many DVDs. This matters if you have good equipment,

2. If #1 is OK, you could go 1 step farther and copy the shows from
the Replay to a computer. A laptop is easier to carry and set up.

--
Mark Lloyd
has a Replay 5xxx
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"The idea that there is an invisible being who
created and still runs this old universe is so
childish, so obviously contrived, that it is hard to
believe anyone with even a modicum of education can
still fall for that scam."
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Anonymous
July 11, 2005 3:02:51 AM

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"joelpk" <jkollin@gmail.com> wrote:

> I was thinking of using a used RTV to manually record movies from a DVD
> to watch later. I want to be able to take the "movie" with me by
> carrying the RTV.

Why would you want to do it this way? I bought a DVD player small enough
to fit in my carry-on bag for $25. It's a lot smaller and cheaper than an
RTV.


--
Jeff

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Anonymous
July 11, 2005 12:52:05 PM

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On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 23:02:51 -0500, Jeff Lindstrom
<j_r_lind@adelphia.net> wrote:

>"joelpk" <jkollin@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I was thinking of using a used RTV to manually record movies from a DVD
>> to watch later. I want to be able to take the "movie" with me by
>> carrying the RTV.
>
> Why would you want to do it this way? I bought a DVD player small enough
>to fit in my carry-on bag for $25. It's a lot smaller and cheaper than an
>RTV.

And easier to connect and set up.

The Replay offers better controls for playback.

--
Mark Lloyd
has a Replay 5xxx
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"The idea that there is an invisible being who
created and still runs this old universe is so
childish, so obviously contrived, that it is hard to
believe anyone with even a modicum of education can
still fall for that scam."
Anonymous
July 12, 2005 1:25:30 AM

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A better way (Portability) wise is to record to the replay, then
transfer via network to a laptop computer of the 500MHz or better kind

Then use VideoLan to play it back (Though core media player works
equally well with DVD's or even POWER DVD which is often included with
modern laptops)

Or for that matter, Just use the DVD player in the modern laptoph

Mark Lloyd wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 23:02:51 -0500, Jeff Lindstrom
> <j_r_lind@adelphia.net> wrote:
>
>
>>"joelpk" <jkollin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I was thinking of using a used RTV to manually record movies from a DVD
>>>to watch later. I want to be able to take the "movie" with me by
>>>carrying the RTV.
>>
>> Why would you want to do it this way? I bought a DVD player small enough
>>to fit in my carry-on bag for $25. It's a lot smaller and cheaper than an
>>RTV.
>
>
> And easier to connect and set up.
>
> The Replay offers better controls for playback.
>

--
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Anonymous
July 12, 2005 1:25:31 AM

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On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 21:25:30 GMT, John in Detroit
<Blanked@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>A better way (Portability) wise is to record to the replay, then
>transfer via network to a laptop computer of the 500MHz or better kind
>
>Then use VideoLan to play it back (Though core media player works
>equally well with DVD's or even POWER DVD which is often included with
>modern laptops)
>

Essentially what I would do. When I posted previously in this thread,
I was comparing a DVD player and the Replay. Note that I gave
advantages for BOTH WAYS (you always need to consider both).

>Or for that matter, Just use the DVD player in the modern laptoph
>

You could. A laptop (for either of the ways you just mentioned) would
be more sefl-contained (you would have less to hook up where you're
going to play the video).

>Mark Lloyd wrote:
>> On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 23:02:51 -0500, Jeff Lindstrom
>> <j_r_lind@adelphia.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"joelpk" <jkollin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I was thinking of using a used RTV to manually record movies from a DVD
>>>>to watch later. I want to be able to take the "movie" with me by
>>>>carrying the RTV.
>>>
>>> Why would you want to do it this way? I bought a DVD player small enough
>>>to fit in my carry-on bag for $25. It's a lot smaller and cheaper than an
>>>RTV.
>>
>>
>> And easier to connect and set up.
>>
>> The Replay offers better controls for playback.
>>

--
Mark Lloyd
has a Replay 5xxx
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"The idea that there is an invisible being who
created and still runs this old universe is so
childish, so obviously contrived, that it is hard to
believe anyone with even a modicum of education can
still fall for that scam."
Anonymous
July 13, 2005 2:30:46 AM

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Mark Lloyd wrote:
> You could. A laptop (for either of the ways you just mentioned) would
> be more sefl-contained (you would have less to hook up where you're
> going to play the video).


I got to agree with you there :-) Was watching one recorded TV show
this morning and as a demonstration held up the laptop. NOTHING was
connected to it, no power, no network no phone not even an external
mouse.... NOTHING


--
John F Davis, in Delightful Detroit. WA8YXM(at)arrl(dot)net
"Nothing adds excitement like something that is none of your business"
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Anonymous
August 14, 2005 6:06:27 PM

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Ya, I was seeing in another thread they've managed to just about
completely disable it without raping your for continuous payments (or a
lifetime $300 one).
It's making me hate them so much I may just toss this whole idea and deal
with the PC solution, despite all the advantages of a stand-alone
solution.

On Wed, 6 Jul 2005 14:02:35 -0400, "Margaret Wilson"
<twokatmew@nospam.msn.com> spewed:
>Nope, sorry.
>
>Regards,
>
>Margaret
>
>"joelpk" <jkollin@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:1120669262.881034.137710@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>>I was thinking of using a used RTV to manually record movies from a DVD
>> to watch later. I want to be able to take the "movie" with me by
>> carrying the RTV.
>>
>> Can I get an old one without a subscription and use it for this limited
>> function.
>>
>> Joel
>>
>

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Anonymous
August 14, 2005 6:06:29 PM

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On Wed, 06 Jul 2005 16:51:02 -0500, Mark Lloyd <mlloyd@5xxxmail.com5xxx>
spewed:
>>I was thinking of using a used RTV to manually record movies from a DVD
>>to watch later. I want to be able to take the "movie" with me by
>>carrying the RTV.
>>
>>Can I get an old one without a subscription and use it for this limited
>>function.
>>
>>Joel
>
>
>That sort of question has really been asked a lot of times. The answer
>continues to be "no". Without a subscription, all the Replay will
>allow you to do is set certain options (throght the menu) and conact
>the Replay service.
>
>Considering storing DVD content on the Replay:
>
>1. Replay video is NTSC only, which is of limited quality compared to
>what's on many DVDs. This matters if you have good equipment,
>
>2. If #1 is OK, you could go 1 step farther and copy the shows from
>the Replay to a computer. A laptop is easier to carry and set up.

Whawhwhwhwhwaaaaaat??!!
RTV is worse than DVD quality (even not considering the factor of the
quality loss of the analog out and back in problem)?!
IOW, RTV can't record DVD quality MPG?

Oh man, RTV is dropping FAST out of my consideration!
Anybody know where to get a pre-made "clone" that will do all of RTV
(minus the stupid guide)? If there's no hack, there's gotta be that.
Somewhere, right?

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Anonymous
August 14, 2005 10:59:57 PM

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see.my.sig.4.addr@nowhere.com.invalid wrote:
> Ya, I was seeing in another thread they've managed to just about
> completely disable it without raping your for continuous payments (or a
> lifetime $300 one).
> It's making me hate them so much I may just toss this whole idea and deal
> with the PC solution, despite all the advantages of a stand-alone
> solution.

You'll let us know when you get that killer ap going on the PC. Oh, and
don't forget not to spend anywhere near that $300.
Anonymous
August 14, 2005 11:04:22 PM

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>
> Whawhwhwhwhwaaaaaat??!!
> RTV is worse than DVD quality (even not considering the factor of the
> quality loss of the analog out and back in problem)?!
> IOW, RTV can't record DVD quality MPG?

Replay uses the same MPEGII standard as DVDs and as a matter of fact on
high can use a higher bitrate than the DVD std for MPEG calls for, which
is why medium is used to insure playablity. In any case Replay would be
your only choice in stand alones because it has the best picture by far.

>
> Oh man, RTV is dropping FAST out of my consideration!
> Anybody know where to get a pre-made "clone" that will do all of RTV
> (minus the stupid guide)? If there's no hack, there's gotta be that.
> Somewhere, right?

You seem to be clueless about DVRs since "the stupid guide" is the whole
point, not the hardware.
August 15, 2005 6:01:11 PM

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> RTV is worse than DVD quality (even not considering the factor of the
> quality loss of the analog out and back in problem)?!
> IOW, RTV can't record DVD quality MPG?

But that is the deciding factor. The replay only has analog inputs.
Thus it can never be truly DVD quality. However, having done it, it is
quite good, and far better than an analog cable TV signal. Your input
signal is much cleaner.

I've seen combo DVD player/hard drives in the store, that may do more of
what you want. Perhaps it knows how to record the digital stream
without re-encoding it.

ReplayTV is much better suited for, ah, Replaying... TV.
Anonymous
August 19, 2005 4:05:08 AM

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see.my.sig.4.addr@nowhere.com.invalid shaped the electrons to say:
>RTV is worse than DVD quality (even not considering the factor of the
>quality loss of the analog out and back in problem)?!
>IOW, RTV can't record DVD quality MPG?

Right. The only DVRs that record in full DVD quality are those with
the built in DVD burners. And even those, of course, are only as good
as the source.

AND they will NEVER be as good as the commercial DVDs, and that's true
for all DVRs, since DVRs need to use a single-pass real time encoder,
and professional DVDs use multi-pass encoding which produces a higher
quality compression.

>Anybody know where to get a pre-made "clone" that will do all of RTV
>(minus the stupid guide)? If there's no hack, there's gotta be that.
>Somewhere, right?

Yes - there are several non-subscription DVRs on the market. All of
them cost a lot more than a ReplayTV (or TiVo) because they have to
make all the money on the HW.

-MZ
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