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Is it worth to get a 660ti over a 660, "budget wise"?

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February 11, 2013 12:15:26 PM

Hi, I am a casual gamer, and by casual I mean rarely decide to put a game on and play.

My main usage for the graphics card is to supply my 1080p or 720p/120Hz/3D projectors (130 inch screen approx from 25 feet away) when I want to play a bluray movie or similar. But I do want some horsepower to casually play some games over the course of the upcoming 3 years (once in a blue moon) or maybe get my nephew to play some games over the weekend so that he can "think" his uncle is cool :) 

I am on a budget as I want to buy several items. I had an msi twin frozr 560 ti that had a dvi and hdmi port die on me, and that I sold. Is it worth to get the 660 ti over the 660 for the difference of USD 75 as I am seeing in the market?

It seems the difference is mainly around 15% in performance and it depends if it is a reference or OC version.

Any advice? is the 660 gigabyte a good card to get? over the evga ones? I am trying to stay away from MSI after the port problem although I know MSI is a good brand.
a b U Graphics card
February 11, 2013 12:24:50 PM

I don't think the GTX660ti is worth it. If you'd like to save some money, get the GTX660. Spend a little bit more ($30+) and you can get a Radeon HD7870 XT (Tahiti LE) which performs similar to a GTX660ti but cheaper.
February 11, 2013 12:26:20 PM

I really don't think that a 660 could make it in 3 years, but that really depends on what kind of games are you going to play. i mean if you are planning to play games like Far Cry or Crysis in the upcomming years then I don't think so but if you mean games that do not need a very powerfull card then yes.
I have a 660 ti and I am able to play any game on the market with a very decent framerate i.e Far cry 3 I get between 45 and 60 FPS in ultra quality at 1080P using DX11 while in consoles you get 30 or less and a much lower quality.

But games that do not demand too much of a graphics card like devil may cry 5 or dead space 3 I get ridiculous FPS like 200 or 220 FPS I just set it to 60 so the card will consume less power.
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February 11, 2013 12:31:19 PM

the 78xx radeons are good value but I am bound to an Nvidia solution as I have invested in few 3D vision glasses that can run on my 720p projector. But I am inclined to the 660 to save 65-75 USD. I can get something else for that amount, the 15% doesnt seem worth 30% more money. Especially if I get an overclocked 660 like a gigabyte one. In normal cases, I would get the 660 ti for some future proofness. But I have found myself rarely playing and only getting the card for the self bragging element :) 

I am leaning towards a gigabyte 660 OC, it is around 30% faster then my older gtx 560ti. Should do the job, can it play 1080p games like Crysis and BF3? if i didnt use the super hight setups?

a b U Graphics card
February 11, 2013 12:35:05 PM

GTX660 can play Crysis and BF3 just fine. You can even run BF3 on high-ultra settings with it.
a b U Graphics card
February 11, 2013 12:42:03 PM

since you've said it yourself that you'll only be playing casually/once in a blue moon, buying the 660ti will not be worth the price admission over the non "Ti" 660 budget wise. the 660 will provide you ample enough performance for your needs. plus if you don't mind you could always dial down the graphic settings should you decide to play some of the upcoming demanding games such as crysis 3, etc. unless of course that you are using the term "casual gamer" very loosely.
February 11, 2013 1:37:30 PM

It is very much worth it. 660ti is practically a 670 with less memory bandwidth.
a b U Graphics card
February 11, 2013 2:46:43 PM

i think that graph would be redundant since the he already said he wouldn't be gaming that much. the extra $ would go to waste if the objective is to play games casually. also for about the same price as the 660 - a 7870 LE can be had with performance on par or better than the 660ti.
here is tom's benchmarks for the 7870LE
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/tahiti-le-7870-7930...
and the link for the 7870LE
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
a b U Graphics card
February 11, 2013 3:03:27 PM

I would stick with a 660. It will give you good performance for what you are using it for, especially if you are running 720p then you should max out everything. EVGA has some great customer support in my experience. As far as future proofing which is really not possible the 660 has some good headroom for overclocking on your own. I would go reference on the 660. The EVGA software is really easy to use if you wanted to overclock (just move some sliders and perform the stress test that is built in).
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-660-gef...
this webpage has some overclock numbers. stable @1.2Ghz and almost 10% better than a 660ti stock.

EVGA reference 660 and you will be fine for your uses and you will way outperform any console and 90% of all desktops out there, but not on tom's hardware .
a b U Graphics card
February 11, 2013 3:25:25 PM

I have the 660ti and honestly even at that im thinking bout going to a gtx 780 770 when they drop. I mean the ti is cool but i can feel a bit of a pull on some games and we dont know how its going to react to crysis 3 yet
a b U Graphics card
February 11, 2013 3:39:18 PM

I got my 660ti for $259.99 (average 660 non-OC sits around $200-$230) so I couldn't complain. If you get a deal like that, go with it, otherwise get a standard 660.

Something like the deal I got or this would sway me from a standard 660: http://www.ebay.com/itm/PNY-NVIDIA-GTX-660Ti-VCGGTX660T...
a b U Graphics card
February 11, 2013 3:40:13 PM

guys he is not a hardcore gamer and crysis/ farcry are not the end all in gaming. He is also using a 720P projector so I bet he can play every game at max settings on his projector for quite some time. the 660 is above the recommended requirements for farcry 3 (640), the recommended for crysis is a 500 series.

the 660 will play games with good quality and playability for the next 1-2 years

crysis will play on a 400 series and far cry 3 min specs are an 8800

I think with his gaming profile he could hit three years of use, barely.
a b U Graphics card
February 11, 2013 3:50:09 PM

Get the GTX 660. At 720p you will be able to max pretty much any game for the next 3 years (assuming nothing crazy comes out) with playable frame rates.

I would get either this one :
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The gigabyte one has higher clock speeds and better reviews... as well as being $10 cheaper - the Asus is just so you have an option from another brand.
a b U Graphics card
February 11, 2013 3:57:50 PM

is it worth getting the 660Ti compare to 660... NO!
Tomshardware just did a review of this video card and I'd recommend getting it because it made the 660Ti look like not worth at all... http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/tahiti-le-7870-7930...
for the same price or a bit more than the 660, the 7870 PowerColor video card performs much better than a 660ti
a b U Graphics card
February 11, 2013 4:01:05 PM

legendkiller said:
is it worth getting the 660Ti compare to 660... NO!
Tomshardware just did a review of this video card and I'd recommend getting it because it made the 660Ti look like not worth at all... http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/tahiti-le-7870-7930...
for the same price or a bit more than the 660, the 7870 PowerColor video card performs much better than a 660ti


People keep missing this so I will point it out... "I am bound to an Nvidia solution as I have invested in few 3D vision glasses that can run on my 720p projector."
a b U Graphics card
February 11, 2013 4:16:25 PM

Derza10 said:
People keep missing this so I will point it out... "I am bound to an Nvidia solution as I have invested in few 3D vision glasses that can run on my 720p projector."

then the 660 should suffice for 720p gaming for atleast a year or 2 maybe even 3. end of story, right?
February 11, 2013 4:19:01 PM

I agree and I must admit that 720p projector escaped my eyes.But if that be the then even a 650 ti is enough even for the newest titles and will save the OP some valuable bucks.
a b U Graphics card
February 11, 2013 4:19:58 PM

nokiddingboss said:
then the 660 should suffice for 720p gaming for atleast a year or 2 maybe even 3. end of story, right?

@720p I think the GTX 660 will last 3 years... Might have to drop a few settings in a couple of years.. But nothing big.
a b U Graphics card
February 11, 2013 4:20:30 PM

Derza10 said:
People keep missing this so I will point it out... "I am bound to an Nvidia solution as I have invested in few 3D vision glasses that can run on my 720p projector."

lol, It's best if you just get a 660(I'd recommend a 650Ti) because you got a 720p projector and beside you dont play games that much...
February 11, 2013 4:25:37 PM

legendkiller said:
lol, It's best if you just get a 660(I'd recommend a 650Ti) because you got a 720p projector and beside you dont play games that much...

Yep moreover if a gtx 650 ti can churn out 40+ fps in far cry 3 with very high settings at 1680x1050 resolution,it will not only rip any game at 720p but will also be able to run them on 3Dvision as well.
a b U Graphics card
February 11, 2013 9:38:31 PM

goldorak I am having some beers and i am curious as to what you are going to do
February 12, 2013 4:43:01 AM

Hey guys and fkr since you are relaxing :) 

I appreciate the advice and thoughts. I do have a 720p for 3D but I have as well a 1080p panasonic AE4000 for 2D, so I am planning to use both but mainly for 3D and 2D blurays respectively. As for gaming, yes I am a casual gamer by meaning barely few hours of gaming a year but I am tempted and planning to increase my gaming needs and play more when I get some more free time. And the kids are growing so they might enjoy it as well.

But although I am a casual gamer and the 660 is "fine" for 1080p for most of the games now with some decreased settings for some games. I am as most of you I think, eager to get the best hardware for just the fun of it and because I like the high end techy stuff.

I am using an i7 920 currently at stock speeds but can increase it to 3.6 GHz when gaming if needed.

I am travelling to the US in around 3 weeks so I have to put some online orders after 10 days to 2 weeks, depending on the deals at that time, I will decide. Like the PNY on ebay is a good deal although I prefer better brands but PNY is a good brand as well. Unfortunatly, my country cant pay with paypal on ebay :(  but my brother lives in another country so I might make use of his paypal account to get something from ebay if there is a good offer.
Otherwise I am stuck with amazon for the simplicity of payments with international credit cards and to be honest It was a good store over the years for my purchases but not always the best deals compared to seeking better alternatives elsewhere when needed.
So the bottom line, for the range of 230 USD I will get the best I can get. And depending on the technology addiction I might pay more if I feel the itch :) 
a b U Graphics card
February 12, 2013 5:45:25 AM

If I were you, I'd get the PowerColor HD7870 PCS+ Myst Edition for $230(for 1080p gaming) and get a GTX 550 Ti $100 or a GTX 650 Ti $150 for 720p 3D Blu-ray
February 12, 2013 5:59:14 AM

Hi legendkiller,

Thanks for the options, I wish i can do that but budget wise I jumped to 380 USD, I can get a PNY 670 for 330 USD which is a better choice. And moreover, putting nvidia and amd in one chassis "might" cause some drivers issues or at least pause some concerns regarding compatibility and additional heat in the system and power consumption. Moreover, this will not serve 3D gaming that well, although I am using 720p but is still 3D at 120 Hz.

In fact I was aiming if my pocket doesnt get a hole in it :)  to get a second card for my second pc in a small room I have for more private free of kids gaming. Like a radeon 7850 or gtx 650 ti (because I can use it in case my 660/ti in my HTPC dies on me and I need 3D vision.)

But hey, I need to think about my pocket so for now I am still thinking of spending only around USD 230 + or -. I will get soon a nyrius wireless hdmi, I want to try if it will reach my second private screen at home but doubt it, in that case I might be able to use one vga/PC in several places at home. But the main reason for the wireless hdmi is to reach my new 47 inch LG 3d HDTV in a nearby room as well for 3D bluray and gaming. (I like electronics :) )
a b U Graphics card
February 12, 2013 11:04:57 AM

just go for a 660Ti(should last at least 6 years before upgrade) as it can do pretty well and save money for later upgrade...
a b U Graphics card
February 12, 2013 12:58:15 PM

legendkiller said:
just go for a 660Ti(should last at least 6 years before upgrade) as it can do pretty well and save money for later upgrade...


I wouldnt say 6 years games like far cry 3 and crysis 3 will make the 660ti buckle but it dpends as well what games is played
February 12, 2013 2:21:01 PM

yeah '6 years' was a too exaggerated term.It hasn't been 3 years and people with 460s are feeling some crunch.
a b U Graphics card
February 12, 2013 2:27:09 PM

Anik8 said:
It hasn't been 3 years and people with 460s are feeling some crunch.



It's about to get 3 years old. I'm still fine with the GTX460 (overclocked and performs around the GTX560ti) although my original plan to wait for next gen card is thrashed. Seems like I might have to get current gen card <sigh>...
February 12, 2013 2:36:53 PM

Already some games are out that can weigh heavy for the gtx 460 and its good time to upgrade for you as the the kepler refresh are arriving in a matter of days and some price cuts are inevitable.
a b U Graphics card
February 12, 2013 2:43:43 PM

You mean the titan card? That's not going to be anywhere near what I'm willing to spend for a video card and I believe it's not the GTX700 series. The GTX700 series are delayed to Q4 as far as I know, and that's kind of too long. Maybe I'll get either the GTX660 or HD7870, not sure for now.
February 12, 2013 3:19:12 PM

I thought all 700 series cards would come out roughly in the same period.Anyways prices of 680 gettin slashed again.
http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-680-significant-...
I know the 660 and 7870 are very nice cards to buy for their value and will be enough for another 3 years or so.
a b U Graphics card
February 13, 2013 1:26:38 AM

I still think the non TI version is the best fit for your needs; however, more graphics power is always a good thing. I firmly believe in buying the best you can afford for my own purchases.
February 20, 2013 7:44:41 PM

The 7870 LE spec wise does look like a good deal but NEWEGG reviews has most of the 7870 cards with a high failure rate thats a big turn off in my opinion. In comparison the gigabit oc 660 has 60 reviews 5 eggs. I also have a 1080p panasonic pt 2000 projector. Would the gigabit 660 OC do it justice gaming and movie wise?
February 20, 2013 7:45:03 PM

The 7870 LE spec wise does look like a good deal but NEWEGG reviews has most of the 7870 cards with a high failure rate thats a big turn off in my opinion. In comparison the gigabit oc 660 has 60 reviews 5 eggs. I also have a 1080p panasonic pt 2000 projector. Would the gigabit 660 OC do it justice gaming and movie wise?
February 27, 2013 3:17:59 PM

Hey guys. I put my order, as I am travelling soon.

I hope everything arrives safe. To my luck or "non-luck" (depending on how things will go), the gigabyte was sold out from amazon (as direct seller) so based on my financial matters and other items I ordered, I opted for the MSI NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 2GB GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 Graphics Card N660 TF 2GD5/OC. Although my previous experience with my gtx 560ti from msi had given me some port problems. i jumped again to this card. I hope it is compatible with my asus p6T x58 deluxe motherboard with i7 920, my auzentech Hometheatre hdmi, and my thermaltake 750 watts, cant recall the model now.

I hope msi does it well this time or else they will not be my choice anymore. this card had good reviews and eggs both on amazon and newegg.
a b U Graphics card
February 27, 2013 6:15:07 PM

nice and enjoy. The 2 Gig version leaves a nice opening for second card in SLI if you want in the future.
February 27, 2013 8:08:21 PM

Thanks fkr and all for the info and input. Will see how things go when I get back from the US and install it.

For dmar001, I think 1080p is 1080p whether using a small screen or a 150 inch projector screen. The panasonic that I have has a 120 Hz refresh rate internally! i think it can be described like this :)  so it should be an acceptable projector for games and movies. however it lacks some lumens, it is not that bright, but my earlier "brightness" related experience with the gtx560ti with it was better than my friends ati 4850 that i used once because I sold my 560ti. Anyhow, I think the projector will hopefully be good for gaming and of course movies. My other 720p acer projector has the advantage of better brightness, 120HZ input signal, and 3D gaming with Nvidia 3d vision :)  but mainly I use both for bluray and bluray 3D. But I dont mind testing a 3d game. I did play crysis few years ago, I dont know if Crysis 3 is appealing as well! does it play in 3D? I need to test a nice game on this, although I beleive car race games and 3rd person shooter would be the best to test. Strategy games I prefer on smaller nearby screens.
a b U Graphics card
February 28, 2013 5:40:09 AM

farcry 3 is a beautiful game that scales well to any GPU, Some real nice burning or fire effects
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February 28, 2013 6:28:12 AM

Anik8 said:
yeah '6 years' was a too exaggerated term.It hasn't been 3 years and people with 460s are feeling some crunch.


Ya but the 460 wasnt even considered high end when it came out more like mid range.Have to say my gtx 480's are holding up well i could see getting another 3 years if i keep them in sli.
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