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2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 660 TI Or 2GB ADM RADEON 7870

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February 11, 2013 8:21:49 PM

Hello, should I get the 2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 660 TI Or the 2GB ADM RADEON 7870 for my new pc?

I will be using my pc primarily for gaming and 3d editing.

Thankyou in advance
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February 11, 2013 8:42:28 PM

Depending which games you play, they seem to trade 'crowns' when it comes to framerate:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/647?vs=548

Same with texel rates and pixels rates:
http://www.hwcompare.com/13140/geforce-gtx-660-ti-vs-ra...

And Tom's Hrdwr. seems to put them in the same tier when it comes to gaming:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-car...

So basically it depends on which games you play, and which card you can get the best price on...
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February 11, 2013 9:09:20 PM

Yea I would agree and say like others it depends on the games you play and what you are looking to get out of your games/applications. From what I understand AMD does a better job with direct computing and in ADOBE programs Nvidia does fairly well due to CUDA being supported.

The 660Ti will normally come ahead of the 7870 non LE however the LE and the 660Ti should be a more tightly contested race.
February 12, 2013 9:55:54 AM

nokiddingboss said:
7870LE is a much better choice. its as fast as the 660ti but a lot cheaper. read tom's review about it http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/tahiti-le-7870-7930...



The Radeon HD 7870 does not beat the GTX 660 Ti in terms of performance. The Radeon HD 7870 is in competition only against the GTX 660 ( non Ti ). The GTX 660 Ti in an SLI Configuration gives 28% more performance than a stock, reference Radeon HD 7970. I would STRONGLY recommend that you ( Xavierthenewb ) go in for the GTX 660 Ti.
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February 12, 2013 6:57:16 PM

The 7870 does go against the 660Ti well in theory it does. The GTX660 and the 7850 duke it out. But either way if you are comparing the two with the non LE version of the 7870 in question then more often then not the 660Ti will come ahead in most applications.
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February 13, 2013 4:40:42 AM

Angry Bellic said:
The Radeon HD 7870 does not beat the GTX 660 Ti in terms of performance. The Radeon HD 7870 is in competition only against the GTX 660 ( non Ti ). The GTX 660 Ti in an SLI Configuration gives 28% more performance than a stock, reference Radeon HD 7970. I would STRONGLY recommend that you ( Xavierthenewb ) go in for the GTX 660 Ti.

I said the 7870 "LE" a.k.a Tahiti LE or POWERCOLOR 7870 MYST EDITION ring any bells?
here is the benchmarks by Tom's:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/tahiti-le-7870-7930...
beats the hell out of a 660 and pretty much neck to neck against the 660ti. read it before posting bro.
-EDIT-
also the 7870 "LE" is being sold for just under $240 while the 660ti can be usually found at around $290.
February 13, 2013 8:22:10 AM

Angry Bellic said:
The Radeon HD 7870 does not beat the GTX 660 Ti in terms of performance. The Radeon HD 7870 is in competition only against the GTX 660 ( non Ti ). The GTX 660 Ti in an SLI Configuration gives 28% more performance than a stock, reference Radeon HD 7970. I would STRONGLY recommend that you ( Xavierthenewb ) go in for the GTX 660 Ti.


Hes talking about the tahiti le moron

Ur comparing a 300$ card to a 200$-250$ card. A fair comparison in terms of price would be a 7950 vs 660ti in which case the 7950 blows the 660ti off the plane of existence and moves on to challenge the 670
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February 13, 2013 8:23:13 AM

Hey now no reason to make this thread hostile. The OP understands the value is pretty strong for the 7870 LE,XT (Tahiti) card.
February 13, 2013 1:21:10 PM

nokiddingboss said:
I said the 7870 "LE" a.k.a Tahiti LE or POWERCOLOR 7870 MYST EDITION ring any bells?
here is the benchmarks by Tom's:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/tahiti-le-7870-7930...
beats the hell out of a 660 and pretty much neck to neck against the 660ti. read it before posting bro.
-EDIT-
also the 7870 "LE" is being sold for just under $240 while the 660ti can be usually found at around $290.

Man, I have tried both. While the HD 7870 makes me think I shouldn't have bought it because of its absurd drivers. However the 7870 does help in Full HD.
And the HD 7950 is not at all better than the GTX 670 both are neck to neck.
February 13, 2013 1:21:27 PM

timil said:
Hes talking about the tahiti le moron

Ur comparing a 300$ card to a 200$-250$ card. A fair comparison in terms of price would be a 7950 vs 660ti in which case the 7950 blows the 660ti off the plane of existence and moves on to challenge the 670

"Challenge the 670"? Really?
February 13, 2013 1:26:11 PM

timil said:
Hes talking about the tahiti le moron

Ur comparing a 300$ card to a 200$-250$ card. A fair comparison in terms of price would be a 7950 vs 660ti in which case the 7950 blows the 660ti off the plane of existence and moves on to challenge the 670

The GTX 670 in SLI blows a stock 7970 out of the universe.
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February 14, 2013 3:15:01 AM

Angry Bellic said:
Man, I have tried both. While the HD 7870 makes me think I shouldn't have bought it because of its absurd drivers. However the 7870 does help in Full HD.
And the HD 7950 is not at all better than the GTX 670 both are neck to neck.

man... are you even reading my post? i said it's the 7870 "LE" (with the letters "L" and "E" being the key part of the product). the 7870 "LE" blows the 660 out of the water and goes neck to neck against the 660Ti, i never said anything about battling a 670. i'm only replying to you out of pity because every once in a while, someone needs to feed the troll so that he won't slit his throat out of loneliness and desperation. i feel sorry for you. but alas, i ain't gonna feed you no more.
-Edit-
also about your reply to timil, do you even know how to compare things? i mean SLI'd 670's vs a single stock 7970? really? i can't even begin to fathom your ignorance. i apologize to the OP and the other readers for saying rude words that are out of topic. but i won't be apologizing to you.
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February 14, 2013 3:20:45 AM

The 660 ti is a better card overall, either up against any 7870 or 7870 tahiti le(not the value side in question, the 7870 le is a good card for the price).
Since you're into editing, another reason to get the 660 ti, since most applications supports cuda.
February 14, 2013 3:24:01 AM

Angry Bellic said:
The Radeon HD 7870 does not beat the GTX 660 Ti in terms of performance. The Radeon HD 7870 is in competition only against the GTX 660 ( non Ti ). The GTX 660 Ti in an SLI Configuration gives 28% more performance than a stock, reference Radeon HD 7970. I would STRONGLY recommend that you ( Xavierthenewb ) go in for the GTX 660 Ti.

This. I JUST went through dealing with these.
February 14, 2013 8:56:16 AM

nokiddingboss said:
man... are you even reading my post? i said it's the 7870 "LE" (with the letters "L" and "E" being the key part of the product). the 7870 "LE" blows the 660 out of the water and goes neck to neck against the 660Ti, i never said anything about battling a 670. i'm only replying to you out of pity because every once in a while, someone needs to feed the troll so that he won't slit his throat out of loneliness and desperation. i feel sorry for you. but alas, i ain't gonna feed you no more.
-Edit-
also about your reply to timil, do you even know how to compare things? i mean SLI'd 670's vs a single stock 7970? really? i can't even begin to fathom your ignorance. i apologize to the OP and the other readers for saying rude words that are out of topic. but i won't be apologizing to you.


Moron! First watch the LinusTechTips Video about GTX 670 three way SLI vs GTX 690 OK? The 7970 is not = GTX 690. So the GTX 670 in SLI gives only about some 20-28% more performance than the GTX 690 and it is more noisy, but however when it gives 20-28% more performance than a GTX 690; this moron is comparing the SLI configuration to a 7970! Really?

*Edit*

I made a mistake about the SLI; waht I really meant was 3 way SLI but I said just SLI. Well, If the 3 way SLI gives slightly more performance than a GTX 690, what's the point of comparing it to a 7970 I am NOT an NVIDIA fan boy, and not an AMD fan boy either! I in 3 way SLI, the GTX 670 defeats any variant of the 7970 ( I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT BEATS THE GHZ EDITION OR NOT SO PLEASE DO NOT BRING THAT UP! ) Never in my life will I apologize to YOU!
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February 14, 2013 11:56:31 AM

don't feed the troll people. nothing to see here.
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February 14, 2013 6:42:27 PM

^+1

And for the record when you throw in SLi it will amount to higher performance then any single card solution so even the ghz would lose. With regards to the 670 in Sli.
February 14, 2013 10:25:18 PM

I guess it would be the GTX 660 Ti because of CUDA
February 14, 2013 10:33:29 PM

djangoringo said:
The 660 ti is a better card overall, either up against any 7870 or 7870 tahiti le(not the value side in question, the 7870 le is a good card for the price).
Since you're into editing, another reason to get the 660 ti, since most applications supports cuda.


-Anything with a Tahiti core in it beats CUDA in terms of 3D, i.e. 3ds Max, etc.

-In 2D like Adobe or Video editing/number crunching CUDA wins.

7870LE is comparable to the GTX660Ti, and 7950 beats the 660Ti and is just short of a GTX670.

Overall spend a couple bucks more for the 7870LE.

Good luck!
February 14, 2013 10:39:35 PM

Angry Bellic said:
Moron! First watch the LinusTechTips Video about GTX 670 three way SLI vs GTX 690 OK? The 7970 is not = GTX 690. So the GTX 670 in SLI gives only about some 20-28% more performance than the GTX 690 and it is more noisy, but however when it gives 20-28% more performance than a GTX 690; this moron is comparing the SLI configuration to a 7970! Really?

*Edit*

I made a mistake about the SLI; waht I really meant was 3 way SLI but I said just SLI. Well, If the 3 way SLI gives slightly more performance than a GTX 690, what's the point of comparing it to a 7970 I am NOT an NVIDIA fan boy, and not an AMD fan boy either! I in 3 way SLI, the GTX 670 defeats any variant of the 7970 ( I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT BEATS THE GHZ EDITION OR NOT SO PLEASE DO NOT BRING THAT UP! ) Never in my life will I apologize to YOU!


BS

A 7970 certainly does not beat a GTX670, a 7970GHz is readily at/beyond at the levels of a GTX590, a 7970 is slightly slower than a GTX680 at stock.

Maybe back at release a GTX670 was faster but certainly not now.

http://kotaku.com/5964022/the-best-graphics-cards-nvidi...

according to that even a 7950 is faster than a GTX670 in some cases, and the 7970 is equal to the GTX680.

http://www.hwcompare.com/12508/geforce-gtx-670-vs-radeo...

Also the 7970 has a much wider bus meaning it can much more easily fulfull demanding applications and multimonitor, not to mention superb AA/AF performance on 8x/16x.

Right now all Nvidia has on AMD is power consumption and superior stereoscopic 3D. Drivers are equal at this point(especially with 13.2) and RadeonPro eliminates future multi GPU concerns(not to mention the 7970 suffers less performance loss than the GTX series in CF)
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February 14, 2013 10:47:07 PM

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February 17, 2013 5:30:53 PM

@ bigshootr8
LOL... fits where this thread has degraded to perfectly.
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February 17, 2013 9:42:16 PM

7870 and gtx660 trade blows depending on game and also depending on the reviewer, so read more than 1 review before making your decision. Keep in mind the nvidia cards support physx, use less power and work better in multi-card setups(sli) giving less stuttering. the 7870 is better in situations that use more than 4x AA. So decide exactly what you want to do, weather physx would be useful for you (there are only a small number of games that use it and depending on game it doesnt add all that much to the visuals),
March 30, 2013 11:28:46 PM

Of course I would have gone in for the 7950 if it was a little less priced in my region. :D 
I did try out both cards on my all-time favorite game - GTA IV EFLC. The 660 Ti did perform better but that's completely another story.
March 30, 2013 11:32:13 PM

darkspartenwarrior said:
Angry Bellic said:
Moron! First watch the LinusTechTips Video about GTX 670 three way SLI vs GTX 690 OK? The 7970 is not = GTX 690. So the GTX 670 in SLI gives only about some 20-28% more performance than the GTX 690 and it is more noisy, but however when it gives 20-28% more performance than a GTX 690; this moron is comparing the SLI configuration to a 7970! Really?

*Edit*

I made a mistake about the SLI; waht I really meant was 3 way SLI but I said just SLI. Well, If the 3 way SLI gives slightly more performance than a GTX 690, what's the point of comparing it to a 7970 I am NOT an NVIDIA fan boy, and not an AMD fan boy either! I in 3 way SLI, the GTX 670 defeats any variant of the 7970 ( I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT BEATS THE GHZ EDITION OR NOT SO PLEASE DO NOT BRING THAT UP! ) Never in my life will I apologize to YOU!


BS

A 7970 certainly does not beat a GTX670, a 7970GHz is readily at/beyond at the levels of a GTX590, a 7970 is slightly slower than a GTX680 at stock.

Maybe back at release a GTX670 was faster but certainly not now.

http://kotaku.com/5964022/the-best-graphics-cards-nvidi...

according to that even a 7950 is faster than a GTX670 in some cases, and the 7970 is equal to the GTX680.

http://www.hwcompare.com/12508/geforce-gtx-670-vs-radeo...

Also the 7970 has a much wider bus meaning it can much more easily fulfull demanding applications and multimonitor, not to mention superb AA/AF performance on 8x/16x.

Right now all Nvidia has on AMD is power consumption and superior stereoscopic 3D. Drivers are equal at this point(especially with 13.2) and RadeonPro eliminates future multi GPU concerns(not to mention the 7970 suffers less performance loss than the GTX series in CF)


Angry Bellic said:
Of course I would have gone in for the 7950 if it was a little less priced in my region. :D 
I did try out both cards on my all-time favorite game - GTA IV EFLC. The 660 Ti did perform better but that's completely another story.


lol YOu said "the 7970 certainly does not beat a GTX 670". lol The 7970 beats the sh*t out of the 670 ( NOT IN SLI ).

And now I am a happy owner of a ROG Ares II :) 
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March 31, 2013 12:02:01 AM

Back to the topic...

Xavierthenewb said:
Hello, should I get the 2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 660 TI Or the 2GB ADM RADEON 7870 for my new pc?

I will be using my pc primarily for gaming and 3d editing.

Thankyou in advance


I think you should get either of these:

PowerColor 7870 MYST
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Sapphire 7870 XT
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Overclock them bit and you got a 7950 at a big discount. And then enjoy some more with your free Bioshock and Tomb Raider. Have fun :) 
April 25, 2013 10:51:14 AM

Just get the 7870 LE not the normal 7870 version :) 
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April 25, 2013 1:49:30 PM

Looks like adding some of the newer games shook up the performance charts at TechPowerUp.
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