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I am buiding an 18" sub to add to my PA system for live music. I
purchased the driver from an online vendor. Parts Express sells the
same driver and has a recomended design produced by anonymous
software. I'm assuming that the design is adequate.

My question is regarding the port size. The suggested port diameter
is 4.5" @ 2.7" long. The closest manufactured port I can find is 4"
dia by 4" long (I can cut it to length). Standard PVC pipe steps up
from 4" to 6".

Would a 4" dia tube work OK or would it seriously affect performance?

If I can use the 4" dia tube, would I need to shorten the length?

Should I use a 6" diameter tube and alter the length?

Am I concerned about something I shouldn't be concerned about?

I've included some of the design and speaker parameters below. I
would appreciated any insights.



---Box---
Vb = 9.029 cu.ft
V(total) = 9.141 cu.ft
Fb = 35 Hz
F3 = 36.34 Hz
Fill = minimal

--Vents--
No. of Vents = 2
Vent shape = round
Vent ends = one flush
Dv = 4.5 in (port diameter)
Lv = 2.71 in (port length)

--Driver Parameters--
Fs = 27.4 Hz
Qms = 5.59
Vas = 14.9 cu.ft
Xmax = 5.5 mm
Qes = 0.3
Re = 5.55 ohms
Le = 1.57 mH
Z = 8 ohms
Pe = 600 watts

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"Joel Ramsey" <joelr@wcgusa.com> wrote in message
news:65afd655.0409200944.88e5af6@posting.google.com...
> I am buiding an 18" sub to add to my PA system for live music. I
> purchased the driver from an online vendor. Parts Express sells the
> same driver and has a recomended design produced by anonymous
> software. I'm assuming that the design is adequate.
>
> My question is regarding the port size. The suggested port diameter
> is 4.5" @ 2.7" long. The closest manufactured port I can find is 4"
> dia by 4" long (I can cut it to length). Standard PVC pipe steps up
> from 4" to 6".
>
> Would a 4" dia tube work OK or would it seriously affect performance?

2 x 4 inch ports should be OK for a single 18" driver.

> If I can use the 4" dia tube, would I need to shorten the length?

You would need to make them about an inch shorter. Just off the top of my
head.

Stephen

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Parts Express. They are near me and I visit their warehouse often.

The port length depends on a few variables. They sell speaker design books
and software that can be of great use. Be careful on such large speakers
moving such large amount of air. The velocity in a smaller port will be
higher and can cause turbulence noise. Check the Web, someone may have the
size you needed or flared ports for less noise.
John

"Joel Ramsey" <joelr@wcgusa.com> wrote in message
news:65afd655.0409200944.88e5af6@posting.google.com...
> I am buiding an 18" sub to add to my PA system for live music. I
> purchased the driver from an online vendor. Parts Express sells the
> same driver and has a recomended design produced by anonymous
> software. I'm assuming that the design is adequate.
>
> My question is regarding the port size. The suggested port diameter
> is 4.5" @ 2.7" long. The closest manufactured port I can find is 4"
> dia by 4" long (I can cut it to length). Standard PVC pipe steps up
> from 4" to 6".
>
> Would a 4" dia tube work OK or would it seriously affect performance?
>
> If I can use the 4" dia tube, would I need to shorten the length?
>
> Should I use a 6" diameter tube and alter the length?
>
> Am I concerned about something I shouldn't be concerned about?
>
> I've included some of the design and speaker parameters below. I
> would appreciated any insights.
>
>
>
> ---Box---
> Vb = 9.029 cu.ft
> V(total) = 9.141 cu.ft
> Fb = 35 Hz
> F3 = 36.34 Hz
> Fill = minimal
>
> --Vents--
> No. of Vents = 2
> Vent shape = round
> Vent ends = one flush
> Dv = 4.5 in (port diameter)
> Lv = 2.71 in (port length)
>
> --Driver Parameters--
> Fs = 27.4 Hz
> Qms = 5.59
> Vas = 14.9 cu.ft
> Xmax = 5.5 mm
> Qes = 0.3
> Re = 5.55 ohms
> Le = 1.57 mH
> Z = 8 ohms
> Pe = 600 watts

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joelr@wcgusa.com (Joel Ramsey) wrote in message news:<65afd655.0409200944.88e5af6@posting.google.com>...
> I am buiding an 18" sub to add to my PA system for live music. I
> purchased the driver from an online vendor. Parts Express sells the
> same driver and has a recomended design produced by anonymous
> software. I'm assuming that the design is adequate.
>
> My question is regarding the port size. The suggested port diameter
> is 4.5" @ 2.7" long. The closest manufactured port I can find is 4"
> dia by 4" long (I can cut it to length). Standard PVC pipe steps up
> from 4" to 6".
>
> Would a 4" dia tube work OK or would it seriously affect performance?

A 4" tube would work just fine. The difference in effective area
is only 20%.

> If I can use the 4" dia tube, would I need to shorten the length?

Yes, you'd have to shorten it by roughly 20%

> Should I use a 6" diameter tube and alter the length?

If you did, you'd have to make it over twice as long. If
you have the room for that, go for it.

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Thank you for responding. The info helps.

Reply to Anonymous

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Parts Express sells tapered tubes as well.

"Joel Ramsey" <joelr@wcgusa.com> wrote in message
news:65afd655.0409200944.88e5af6@posting.google.com...
> I am buiding an 18" sub to add to my PA system for live music. I
> purchased the driver from an online vendor. Parts Express sells the
> same driver and has a recomended design produced by anonymous
> software. I'm assuming that the design is adequate.
>
> My question is regarding the port size. The suggested port diameter
> is 4.5" @ 2.7" long. The closest manufactured port I can find is 4"
> dia by 4" long (I can cut it to length). Standard PVC pipe steps up
> from 4" to 6".
>
> Would a 4" dia tube work OK or would it seriously affect performance?
>
> If I can use the 4" dia tube, would I need to shorten the length?
>
> Should I use a 6" diameter tube and alter the length?
>
> Am I concerned about something I shouldn't be concerned about?
>
> I've included some of the design and speaker parameters below. I
> would appreciated any insights.
>
>
>
> ---Box---
> Vb = 9.029 cu.ft
> V(total) = 9.141 cu.ft
> Fb = 35 Hz
> F3 = 36.34 Hz
> Fill = minimal
>
> --Vents--
> No. of Vents = 2
> Vent shape = round
> Vent ends = one flush
> Dv = 4.5 in (port diameter)
> Lv = 2.71 in (port length)
>
> --Driver Parameters--
> Fs = 27.4 Hz
> Qms = 5.59
> Vas = 14.9 cu.ft
> Xmax = 5.5 mm
> Qes = 0.3
> Re = 5.55 ohms
> Le = 1.57 mH
> Z = 8 ohms
> Pe = 600 watts

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