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a b U Graphics card
February 18, 2013 1:44:11 PM



I just jizzed rainbow in mah trunks...
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February 18, 2013 1:47:21 PM

I'm confused: is this a one-off card, or the start of the 7XX series?
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a b U Graphics card
February 18, 2013 1:49:14 PM

It's not as good as I thought it would be but maybe it's just early driver.
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a b U Graphics card
February 18, 2013 1:50:39 PM

EzioAs said:
It's not as good as I thought it would be.

You really want Butthurtfilled 3 to run at 1200FPS that badly?
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February 18, 2013 1:53:55 PM

Yeah, percentage graphs aren't that accurate, I'd prefer a true FPS measure. Even if it did mean rounding to the nearest 5-10 fps.
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a b U Graphics card
February 18, 2013 1:54:37 PM

So for $400 you can but a 7970GHZ edition or for $900 you can buy a new Titan that will get 20 more fps in BF3? Seems worth it.

Have to wait to see more benches on it and how it actually works since those benches don't really show FPS or anything.
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a b U Graphics card
February 18, 2013 1:59:58 PM

getochkn said:
That will get 20 more FPS in BF3?


Three monitors. That's "20 more FPS" at three-monitor setup on maximum settings. And it's 3-way, not Quad.
For three-monitor setups "20 more FPS" is actually A LOT, since FPS falls drastically with each new monitor added.
Of course, that still doesn't justify the pricing of this GPU, but a setup of two Titans would cost less than a setup of two best 690s (EVGA's HCS), which, in my opinion, is better.
That's still a lot of money, but I can see what Nvidia tries to do there with releasing this.
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a b U Graphics card
February 18, 2013 2:03:31 PM


I'm certain Titan will be a great card ...

but that looks like an nVidia graph, and I'll wait for all the reviews.

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a b U Graphics card
February 18, 2013 2:11:09 PM

master_chen said:
You really want Butthurtfilled 3 to run at 1200FPS that badly?


No...and why would you feel offended? I was simply stating that the performance doesn't look as good as I expect it to be based on the last graph, where they compare the Titan, GTX680 and HD7970 GHz. Then again, we need more reviews and from a more trustful reviewer at that.
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a b U Graphics card
February 18, 2013 2:16:45 PM

master_chen said:
Three monitors. That's "20 more FPS" at three-monitor setup on maximum settings. And it's 3-way, not Quad.
For three-monitor setups "20 more FPS" is actually A LOT, since FPS falls drastically with each new monitor added.
Of course, that still doesn't justify the pricing of this GPU, but a setup of two Titans would cost less than a setup of two best 690s (EVGA's HCS), which, in my opinion, is better.
That's still a lot of money, but I can see what Nvidia tries to do there with releasing this.


I was going by the 19201080 benchmarks, which shows it's roughly 25% faster in say BF3 (75% compared to 100%), and if a 7970 gets ~80FPS at Ultra quality/max af/1080p resolution, then 25% faster of that would be roughly 20FPS.

Either way, anything new is always more and it seems maybe Nvidia is focusing more on the multimonitor setups and better SLI with this new card since that area is taking off, but still it's only a niche market at best. Maybe this will trickle down to something better for the average user and more consumer level. Have to see.
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a b U Graphics card
February 18, 2013 2:20:25 PM

EzioAs said:
Why would you feel offended?


Uuuhhh....what?....where? O_o
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a b U Graphics card
February 18, 2013 2:26:55 PM

master_chen said:
Uuuhhh....what?....where? O_o


Gee, I don't know. Maybe it's when you said I want "Butthurdfield 3 to run at 1200fps"?
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February 18, 2013 2:28:06 PM

This card can overclock your monitor refresh rate.So 60hz monitor can now see 80 fps.lol
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a b U Graphics card
February 18, 2013 2:34:16 PM

EzioAs said:
Maybe it's when you said I want "Butthurdfield 3 to run at 1200fps"?

Man, you really try to see angry in everything, don't you?
I was just making a comment, I wasn't bashing on you or anything. I was just wondering what's a "worthwhile performance increase" for you for it to be "good enough".
And I always call BF3 the "Butthurtfilled 3", because this game's multiplayer reeks of butthurt-filled kids. %)
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a b U Graphics card
February 18, 2013 2:37:33 PM

@master_chen

I'm not really angry at you actually. I'm just not impressed by the performance one would get with the card's high price.
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a b U Graphics card
February 18, 2013 2:40:04 PM

Ezio:
Well, GTX 690 has 100% "price-to-performance" ratio. Titan would probably have something like "125~150%" after all tests, so...

Redeemer (Adios!):
Yeah, but that's three-monitor setup. Now re-calculate that performance to one-monitor setup with just one card in mind.
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a b U Graphics card
February 18, 2013 2:43:25 PM

@master_chen

Really? Isn't the card supposed to launch with a price tag of $900 or more? If it does, I'm pretty sure the GTX690 has better (lower) price to performance ratio.
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a b U Graphics card
February 18, 2013 2:47:46 PM

Best GTX 690 (EVGA's HCS) costs 1200$. Weakest GTX 690 (LOL EVGA's Again!) costs 1000$ right now.
Devil13 HD 7990 costs (before discontinuation) 880$, Ares II HD 7990 costs 1500$, Toxic HD 7970 6GB (THE Best HD 7970 ever made...discontinued) costs 740$.
So...what were you saying, again?
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a b U Graphics card
February 18, 2013 2:50:41 PM

Yeah, cheapest 690 cost $1,000 but it's significantly faster while the new Titan card cost $900+ (based on what I've heard so far). And you were saying?
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a b U Graphics card
February 18, 2013 2:56:14 PM

I think this Titan isn't the card that registered X7107 on 3Dmark11 as I heard nvidia is working on another gk110 product that'll be coming out much later,supposedly GTX 780.
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a b U Graphics card
February 18, 2013 2:56:33 PM

EzioAs said:
But it's significantly faster.


....where?
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a b U Graphics card
February 18, 2013 3:00:52 PM

master_chen said:
....where?

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a b U Graphics card
February 18, 2013 3:05:25 PM

I believe releasing this card right now is more like a proof of concept than anything else. 1000$ cards are not the ones that make bulk money for the manufacturers, they just need to prove they have a better design coming up.

@Ezio: Nevermind this guy, he just likes to argue without a point.
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a b U Graphics card
February 18, 2013 3:08:46 PM

Well, even if that graph is true (which I highly doubt, since it's 3D Mark '11), this only makes my thoughts on it even more plausible. And my thoughts on Titan is that it'll be promoted, advertised and marketed as something like "GTX 690 for people who can't afford GTX 690, for highest edge of mainstream price segment".

To Ezio: Ignore Murissokah, he's a crybaby kid who doesn't get jack about things, at all.
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a b U Graphics card
February 18, 2013 3:09:59 PM

redeemer said:
Yeah but that graph is Tri SLI, I want to see a single Titan head to head with a single GTX 680!


They show it in the article linked in the first page.

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a b U Graphics card
February 18, 2013 3:14:17 PM

The architecture of titan is very different and also obscure,I can't notice where the GPCs and Raster engines are or have they implented a raster engine in each SMX thereby boosting its pixel filrate higher than the GTX 690.
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a b U Graphics card
February 18, 2013 3:24:24 PM

Anik8 said:
The architecture of titan is very different and also obscure,I can't notice where the GPCs and Raster engines are or have they implented a raster engine in each SMX thereby boosting its pixel filrate higher than the GTX 690.


I'm pretty curious as to how well will it be able to explore the increased 384-bit bandwith, as opposed to Kepler's 256. Nvidia has held back on that increase historically, while ATI usually went for higher memory bandwith. There must be changes on their SMXs to justify this increase.
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a c 85 U Graphics card
February 18, 2013 3:33:40 PM

master_chen said:
Well, even if that graph is true (which I highly doubt, since it's 3D Mark '11), this only makes my thoughts on it even more plausible. And my thoughts on Titan is that it'll be promoted, advertised and marketed as something like "GTX 690 for people who can't afford GTX 690, for highest edge of mainstream price segment".

They might, but realistically this card has nothing whatsoever to do with mainstream. The sweet spot is usually defined as $150-200 or thereabouts, this card costs over four times as much.
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a b U Graphics card
February 18, 2013 4:30:41 PM

Murissokah said:
I'm pretty curious as to how well will it be able to explore the increased 384-bit bandwith, as opposed to Kepler's 256. Nvidia has held back on that increase historically, while ATI usually went for higher memory bandwith. There must be changes on their SMXs to justify this increase.

At this moment 10000 'Titan's have just been released and no one seems to have found one.Until this lurking monsters are caught and exposed naked by some trusted reviewers,we won't be getting proper answers.
However I came across this edited picture.
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a b U Graphics card
February 18, 2013 4:35:46 PM

master_chen said:
Man, you really try to see angry in everything, don't you?
I was just making a comment, I wasn't bashing on you or anything. I was just wondering what's a "worthwhile performance increase" for you for it to be "good enough".
And I always call BF3 the "Butthurtfilled 3", because this game's multiplayer reeks of butthurt-filled kids. %)

It is full of hutthurt kids, Its still fun but the constant bitching and moaning from these kids gets old lol :pt1cable: 
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a b U Graphics card
February 18, 2013 4:43:45 PM

Anik8 said:
At this moment 10000 'Titan's have just been released and no one seems to have found one.Until this lurking monsters are caught and exposed naked by some trusted reviewers,we won't be getting proper answers.
However I came across this edited picture.
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o139/callsign_vega/TitanComparo.jpg


That's nice, man. Seems like Titan will be gravitating around GTX 690 performance. That's good for a single GPU card, but it does consume 250W, and that is for those who can afford it. I am looking foward to those specifics too, to know whether or not Nvidia will upset the balance with their next lineup.
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a b U Graphics card
February 18, 2013 4:47:00 PM

BigMack70 said:
A ~30-35% performance bump over the 7970 GHz Ed doesn't seem at all worth a 100% price hike (in comparison), but maybe that's just me.

Not impressed, Nvidia... not impressed.

Bring it down to the ~$600 range where it belongs please.


This made me cancel my order again. So I hope that toms has the review tonight and that stores like NCIX, newegg, etc have the card by 1am EST and it better be priced at 500-600 otherwise it's HD 7970 GHz Ed CF for me. Can't go wrong with 7970GHz @$400 each.
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a b U Graphics card
February 18, 2013 4:54:58 PM

I hear compute is crippled on the Titan as well :( 
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a b U Graphics card
February 18, 2013 4:56:04 PM

BigMack70 said:
I just don't know who Nvidia thinks they're going to fool if they charge $900 for a card that only beats current $400-450 cards by 30-40%.

Makes me think they just don't have much stock of these.


Even if they had lots in stock they still can't justify a price higher than $550 but they will try.
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a b U Graphics card
February 18, 2013 4:58:18 PM

BigMack70 said:
I just don't know who Nvidia thinks they're going to fool if they charge $900 for a card that only beats current $400-450 cards by 30-40%.

Makes me think they just don't have much stock of these.

They really don't.And out of all these rumors I heard somewhere that nvidia is preparing for another GK110 based GPU and will be rolling it out as GTX 780 when 700 series comes out.So maybe they are doing some sort of prototype testing and watching how consumers react to a similar beast.

Well... may be !
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a b U Graphics card
February 18, 2013 4:58:34 PM

redeemer said:
I hear compute is crippled on the Titan as well :( 


For real? That sucks big time if it's true.
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a b U Graphics card
February 18, 2013 5:02:19 PM

Anik8 said:
They really don't.And out of all these rumors I heard somewhere that nvidia is preparing for another GK110 based GPU and will be rolling it out as GTX 780 when 700 series comes out.So maybe they are doing some sort of prototype testing and watching how consumers react to a similar beast.

Well... may be !


So there's a slim hope of this card being sold at $540 and have the GTX680 move to $470 and GTX670 at 410?
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a b U Graphics card
February 18, 2013 5:04:37 PM

hero1 said:
So there's a slim hope of this card being sold at $540 and have the GTX680 move to $470 and GTX670 at 410?

Nope, :(  Not a chance,they said it would be like a collector's item.You may rather hope the 780 comes out in proper volumes.
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a b U Graphics card
February 18, 2013 5:05:01 PM

hero1 said:
So there's a slim hope of this card being sold at $540 and have the GTX680 move to $470 and GTX670 at 410?


Now here is an optimistic man. More likely to rain donuts.

This is a single GPU card with performance comparable to a GTX 690.
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a b U Graphics card
February 18, 2013 5:05:37 PM

BigMack70 said:
If they don't have much stock, they can charge whatever they want. There are definitely enough people (Nvidia fans and people who just chase down the top-end hardware) who will overpay for this card that they can sell out a relatively limited run of stock.


True. Hence the call for it to be priced between $500-600 then some of us will consider getting 1 now and another in a month or so. Let's hope that they have tons in stock and not limited supply.
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a b U Graphics card
February 18, 2013 5:10:45 PM

Anik8 said:
Nope, :(  Not a chance,they said it would be like a collector's item.You may rather hope the 780 comes out in proper volumes.


I can afford it ASAP even 2-3 but no way am I going to spend an grand or even $800 on a single card when I know I could get 2 cards that will last me 3 years and perform close/similar to that said card. better price this right.
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a b U Graphics card
February 18, 2013 5:11:51 PM

hero1 said:
So there's a slim hope of this card being sold at $540 and have the GTX680 move to $470 and GTX670 at 410?



LOL you realize that the Titan is basically a Tesla K20 chip, with a disabled SMX unit and half FP precision and with Geforce Drivers. A Telsa k20 cards costs thousands!! So no that pricing scheme will not happen.
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a b U Graphics card
February 18, 2013 5:12:13 PM

Remember that the 690 won't stay at the $1000 pricepoint if the titan is the same price and faster. It would be stupid from Nvidia's part. It might likely go down to as low as $800.
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a b U Graphics card
February 18, 2013 5:13:08 PM

BigMack70 said:
I'm just a little sad about the final performance numbers... I was foolishly hoping for maybe a single-GPU I could use to replace my 7970s :\



Why the heck would you want to do that?? Just wait till Maxwell, the Titan is nowhere near as fast as two 7970's!
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a b U Graphics card
February 18, 2013 5:15:36 PM

JJ1217 said:
Remember that the 690 won't stay at the $1000 pricepoint if the titan is the same price and faster. It would be stupid from Nvidia's part. It might likely go down to as low as $800.



Its a limited production man a niche product, pricing is going to be high and its going to sell no matter what.
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a b U Graphics card
February 18, 2013 5:20:00 PM

redeemer said:
LOL you realize that the Titan is basically a Tesla K20 chip, with a disabled SMX unit and half FP precision and with Geforce Drivers. A Telsa k20 cards costs thousands!! So no that pricing scheme will not happen.

You should do a little more research nvidia was never able to release a full 15 SMX GPU the K20 has 2496 cores and K20X has 2688 cores similar to titan but at lower speeds(732Mhz).
The titan has higher clock speeds and slightly more single/double precision compute power than any K20.
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