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"Bill & Debbie" <billdeb@sccoast.net> wrote in message
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>I would like to have TiVo Basic to help me better enjoy television. I don't
>need for it to provide a DVD. I'm looking for the best buy. I've tried a lot
>of different searches and also looked at manufacturer's websites (Toshiba,
>Pioneer, etc). I really can't find anything but something with a DVD included.
>
> Thanks in advance for your help and advice.
> Bill
>
Bill,
I do not think you will find any of the Tivo units that have the
basic tivo service that do not have a DVD player/recorder.
Cost of a 40 hour Tivo runs around $99 brand new with rebate.
The monthly service is around 12.95 and you can always just purchase
a 3 month card to give it a try. If you do purchase a SA Tivo than I
would suggest going with the lifetime subscription. It is allot of capital
outlay
to begin with but is worth it over the time that the unit should last.
The full blown service gives you allot of options in what you can
do with your tivo over the basic service. It is something to look at.
If you watch the Tivo website you can usually find a good deal on
a refurbished unit.
John

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Doug Ellice wrote:
> John Graham wrote:
> > Bill,
> > I do not think you will find any of the Tivo units that have the
> > basic tivo service that do not have a DVD player/recorder.
> > Cost of a 40 hour Tivo runs around $99 brand new with rebate.
>
> I think you're being careless here. basic TiVos most certainly do
NOT
> have a built-in DVD player, much less a DVD recorder.

He's talking about basic TiVo service - not basic TiVos.

See http://customersupport.tivo.com/knowbase/root/public/tv...

All boxes with basic TiVo service have built-in DVD players (but not
the other way around - thanks Humax  

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go to www.replaytv.com

Industry experts, reviewers, and users that have used them have proven
this is the best stand-alone DVR. Don't buy into the TiVo name hype.


--
charper1, Posted this message at http://www.SatelliteGuys.US

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"charper1" <charper1.1l32yy@satelliteguys.org> wrote in message
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>
> go to www.replaytv.com
>
> Industry experts, reviewers, and users that have used them have proven
> this is the best stand-alone DVR. Don't buy into the TiVo name hype.
>
>
> --
> charper1, Posted this message at http://www.SatelliteGuys.US
>

Objective opinions are not proof of anything.

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On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 18:01:28 -0500, charper1 wrote:

> go to www.replaytv.com
>
> Industry experts, reviewers, and users that have used them have proven
> this is the best stand-alone DVR. Don't buy into the TiVo name hype.

So, have you personally used a TiVo? Your 'proof' is useless otherwise.
(Of course, your 'proof' is useless even if you have used a TiVo... your
personal preference doesn't prove something is 'the best'.)

[I knew that this SatelliteGuys thing was a bad idea... I just don't
suppose we can do anything about it, eh?]

--
Lenroc

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John Graham wrote:
> Bill,
> I do not think you will find any of the Tivo units that have the
> basic tivo service that do not have a DVD player/recorder.
> Cost of a 40 hour Tivo runs around $99 brand new with rebate.

I think you're being careless here. basic TiVos most certainly do NOT
have a built-in DVD player, much less a DVD recorder.

Doug

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In article <XPCdnd9jUqOpgrzfRVn-sg@comcast.com>, Doug Ellice wrote:
> John Graham wrote:
>> Bill,
>> I do not think you will find any of the Tivo units that have the
>> basic tivo service that do not have a DVD player/recorder.
>> Cost of a 40 hour Tivo runs around $99 brand new with rebate.
>
> I think you're being careless here. basic TiVos most certainly do NOT
> have a built-in DVD player, much less a DVD recorder.
>
> Doug

Huh? Tivo units that include basic (free) Tivo service most certainly
*do* include either a built-in DVD player, or recorder.

Anyway, to address the OP, I bought my SD-H400 with the intent of only
using the basic service (in my case I was actually shopping for a DVD
player) and only subscribed to the "plus" service to qualify for the
rebate. Cost was only $150 (after rebate), but once I got to experience
Season Pass, TTG, etc I am keeping the plus service. You probalby will
too.

Jim

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"charper1" <charper1.1l32yy@satelliteguys.org> wrote in message news:charper1.1l32yy@satelliteguys.org...
>
> go to www.replaytv.com
>
> Industry experts, reviewers, and users that have used them have proven
> this is the best stand-alone DVR. Don't buy into the TiVo name hype.
>
>
> --
> charper1, Posted this message at http://www.SatelliteGuys.US
>

Why do posters and administrators at web forums appear to be clueless?

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* Jack Ak wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:

> "charper1" <charper1.1l32yy@satelliteguys.org> wrote in message news:charper1.1l32yy@satelliteguys.org...

>> go to www.replaytv.com

>> Industry experts, reviewers, and users that have used them have proven
>> this is the best stand-alone DVR. Don't buy into the TiVo name hype.

> Why do posters and administrators at web forums appear to be clueless?

Ther arent clueless, they just dont care.

--
David
The only person your family pet ever bites will be: a) your banker b)
your minister or c) the local animal control officer.
-- Dave's Dogma

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> Bill & Debbie wrote:
>> I would like to have TiVo Basic to help me better enjoy television. I don't
>> need for it to provide a DVD. I'm looking for the best buy. I've tried a
>> lot of different searches and also looked at manufacturer's websites
>> (Toshiba, Pioneer, etc). I really can't find anything but something with a
>> DVD included.


> Please be carefull with the "DVD" and "DVR" initials.
> I own a TiVo, and I've never seen one that had a built-in DVD recorder,

Then you havent looked hard enough, there are indeed DVD Recorders that
include what is called 'Basic Tivo'

> though there may be a model that does.

More than one, in fact.

Please refrain from posting Binaries in a NON binary group.
--
David
Such a foolish notion, that war is called devotion, when the greatest
warriors are the ones who stand for peace.

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* Doug Ellice wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:
> John Graham wrote:
>> Bill,
>> I do not think you will find any of the Tivo units that have the
>> basic tivo service that do not have a DVD player/recorder.
>> Cost of a 40 hour Tivo runs around $99 brand new with rebate.

> I think you're being careless here. basic TiVos most certainly do NOT
> have a built-in DVD player, much less a DVD recorder.

I think the careless one here is the one giving incorrect information
before researching.

--
David
The duration of passion is proportionate with the original resistance
of the woman.
-- Honor'e DeBalzac

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> Doug Ellice wrote:
>I think you're being careless here. basic TiVos most certainly do
> NOT have a built-in DVD player, much less a DVD recorder.
>

> in2sheep@yahoo.com wrote:
> He's talking about basic TiVo service - not basic TiVos.
> See http://customersupport.tivo.com/knowbase/root/public/tv...
> All boxes with basic TiVo service have built-in DVD players (but not
> the other way around - thanks Humax  


Thank you for correcting me. A TiVo owner, I had not heard of "TiVo
Basic". As you point out, it is a service included with (in) some
models of Pioneer DVD recorders and Toshiba DVD players.
If I understand what you (and other websites) have said, the Humax is a
DVD recorder with full-fledged TiVo capabilities. I think that will be
my next machine....

Doug

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On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 11:07:46 -0500, Doug Ellice wrote:

> Thank you for correcting me. A TiVo owner, I had not heard of "TiVo
> Basic". As you point out, it is a service included with (in) some
> models of Pioneer DVD recorders and Toshiba DVD players.
> If I understand what you (and other websites) have said, the Humax is a
> DVD recorder with full-fledged TiVo capabilities. I think that will be
> my next machine....

It sounds like you're still missing the point that TiVo Basic is just what
ships included with the Pioneer & Tohsiba units. You can still 'upgrade'
those units to the normal TiVo service for a monthly fee.

TiVo Basic seems to have been invented for those more expensive units, to
make it so they'll never be 'doorstops' (which a normal S2 TiVo turns into
without a subscription).

--
Lenroc

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Doug Ellice wrote:
> John Graham wrote:
>
>> Bill,
>> I do not think you will find any of the Tivo units that have the
>> basic tivo service that do not have a DVD player/recorder.
>> Cost of a 40 hour Tivo runs around $99 brand new with rebate.
>
> I think you're being careless here. basic TiVos most certainly do NOT
> have a built-in DVD player, much less a DVD recorder.

Take a look at this page: http://www.tivo.com/2.1.9.asp

You will notice that the two recorders there that say "TiVo Basic
service included" both have DVDs. Then look at
http://customersupport.tivo.com/knowbase/root/public/tv...
where it points out that TiVo Basic does not require registration
(and does not have a monthly fee), but is limited.

By simply paying the standard monthly fee, a TiVo Basic unit will
have full functionality.
-Joe

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"Doug Ellice" <DouglasSpamNotEllice@Comcast.NotSpam.net> wrote in message
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> John Graham wrote:
>> Bill,
>> I do not think you will find any of the Tivo units that have the
>> basic tivo service that do not have a DVD player/recorder.
>> Cost of a 40 hour Tivo runs around $99 brand new with rebate.
>
> I think you're being careless here. basic TiVos most certainly do NOT
> have a built-in DVD player, much less a DVD recorder.
>
> Doug
>
>
>

Isn't it interesting how people who don't have a friggin clue what they're
talking about try to correct the people who do?