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February 20, 2013 8:54:13 PM

here is a used Geforce gtx680 for the price of a new 670. but idk im kind of nervous about purchasing since its used. what do you guys think is it worth the 70 dollar price drop for a used card?
http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-DisplayPort-Graphics...

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February 20, 2013 8:58:39 PM

YOLO right?

Cant say for sure...all depends on you if you can drop an additional 70 for a peace in mind
February 20, 2013 9:01:07 PM

im 15 years old and am trying to build a 1400 dollar pc lol. have around 300 or so saved up and am building trophies and starting to make and sell kettle korn for a profit, i just dont know if i should go new or used im just worried the used will be torn up and need repair. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/EONf
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February 20, 2013 9:20:57 PM

The 680 is a waste of money as the 7970 GHz edition beats it at a lower price. If you really want a Nvidia GPU, get the 670 as the 670 has 95% the performance of a 680. If you get a 670 with good custom coolers, you can overclock it past the 680 anyways.
Also, get a better HDD as the green is inferior to the blue. If you are building a gaming PC, no need for i7. Just get an i5. However, if you plan on video editing, get the i7 as the hyperthreads help in rendering. Other than that, consider buying RAM with lower clock speeds (or upgrade to 16GB) and if you are not heavy overclocking, a cheaper mobo. The build looks fine otherwise. With some money saved, you may be able to get an SSD for your build.
February 20, 2013 9:23:11 PM

th3_ory said:
YOLO right?

Cant say for sure...all depends on you if you can drop an additional 70 for a peace in mind



Please tell me thats a reference to AH
February 20, 2013 9:34:02 PM

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/EPE4 This build will perform better in your budget if you are strictly gaming. As I said before, if you are video editing consider getting the i7. If you are doing heavy overclocking, consider getting a better CPU cooler and Motherboard.
February 20, 2013 9:34:06 PM

plasmaj12345 said:
The 680 is a waste of money as the 7970 GHz edition beats it at a lower price. If you really want a Nvidia GPU, get the 670 as the 670 has 95% the performance of a 680. If you get a 670 with good custom coolers, you can overclock it past the 680 anyways.
Also, get a better HDD as the green is inferior to the blue. If you are building a gaming PC, no need for i7. Just get an i5. However, if you plan on video editing, get the i7 as the hyperthreads help in rendering. Other than that, consider buying RAM with lower clock speeds (or upgrade to 16GB) and if you are not heavy overclocking, a cheaper mobo. The build looks fine otherwise. With some money saved, you may be able to get an SSD for your build.


http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B0083Y6MV6/ref=d... hey hows this. sorry idk much about the difference in brands of the same card
February 20, 2013 9:35:27 PM

plasmaj12345 said:
The 680 is a waste of money as the 7970 GHz edition beats it at a lower price. If you really want a Nvidia GPU, get the 670 as the 670 has 95% the performance of a 680. If you get a 670 with good custom coolers, you can overclock it past the 680 anyways.
Also, get a better HDD as the green is inferior to the blue. If you are building a gaming PC, no need for i7. Just get an i5. However, if you plan on video editing, get the i7 as the hyperthreads help in rendering. Other than that, consider buying RAM with lower clock speeds (or upgrade to 16GB) and if you are not heavy overclocking, a cheaper mobo. The build looks fine otherwise. With some money saved, you may be able to get an SSD for your build.


http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B0083Y6MV6/ref=d... hey hows this. sorry idk much about the difference in brands of the same card
February 20, 2013 9:40:35 PM

gokitty199 said:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B0083Y6MV6/ref=d... hey hows this. sorry idk much about the difference in brands of the same card


If you want to buy it used, its a great card for $317. However, overclocking will not be as good as other cards due to the blower style cooler being less optimal than open style (I think thats what it is called). If you are not planning on overclocking, great card, but if you are, there are better cards available on the market.

February 20, 2013 9:48:49 PM

plasmaj12345 said:
If you want to buy it used, its a great card for $317. However, overclocking will not be as good as other cards due to the blower style cooler being less optimal than open style (I think thats what it is called). If you are not planning on overclocking, great card, but if you are, there are better cards available on the market.


what if i overclock it maby 15-20% will it handle it well?
February 20, 2013 9:52:21 PM

gokitty199 said:
what if i overclock it maby 15-20% will it handle it well?


Just to be safe, I would get a better card with a better cooler. Look at the build I posted above. For not even $1400, it will fit your needs perfectly according to what I already assume, but I need to know if you are just gaming, or video editing as well. I.e. what are using this computer for?
a c 81 U Graphics card
February 20, 2013 9:52:45 PM

^It should, provided that it's got plenty of airflow around it.

If you get lucky, you'll be able to hit 1200MHz.
February 20, 2013 9:57:12 PM

plasmaj12345 said:
Just to be safe, I would get a better card with a better cooler. Look at the build I posted above. For not even $1400, it will fit your needs perfectly, but I need to know if you are just gaming, or video editing as well. I.e. what are using this computer for?


just gaming. what card would you reccomend for around the price of the 670. i plan on doing sli with the 670 at some point when i need to upgrade and idk if ill even overclock it since ive never done it before. i really just want something that can run games on high or ultra if possible, my current gaming pc from like 2008 cant handle the current call of dutys very well. latest call of duty it can run on full graphics is call of duty world at war. this pc dies on games like arma 2. http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B0083Y6MV6/ref=d...
a b U Graphics card
February 20, 2013 10:11:47 PM

I had paid 425 USD for my EVGA 680 superclocked signature card (and it was new) so just pick the best deals as this one is not a great one at all...

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a c 236 U Graphics card
February 20, 2013 10:12:50 PM
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gokitty199 said:
im 15 years old and am trying to build a 1400 dollar pc lol. have around 300 or so saved up and am building trophies and starting to make and sell kettle korn for a profit, i just dont know if i should go new or used im just worried the used will be torn up and need repair. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/EONf


You have posted a good and legitimate question.

Yes, you can get great value on the used market.
But, you need to have some assurances that the produce is sound. On e-bay, the seller will usually give you a 14 day no questions return option.
And, pay with paypal. You should be able to test proper functioning within that timeframe. If the card tests out properly, it will likely last for a long time.
Also, some cards will come with a transferrable warranty, usually the remainder of 3 years from the purchase date. I think EVGA does this.

Can you afford to make a $400 mistake? With a $1400 budget, I might think you could. But as a 15 year old, probably not.

My advice is to buy new from a reputable brand and company.

To better afford new, consider some options on your build:

1. For gaming, there is no value in a 3770K over a 3570K. The ectra hyperthreads and cache is not going to be significantly beneficiial.

2. Any Z77 based motherboard will oc decently and do the job. Look for a motherboard in the $110-$150 range.

3. There is perhaps a 1% difference in fps with 2133 ram. 1600 will do fine. Any limitations you have will not be with a 3570K @4.3.
Read this: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4503/sandy-bridge-memory-...

4. I would try the onboard HD 7.1 sound first. You can always add a discrete sound card later.

5. Consider a GTX670 superclocked. Yes, the GTX680 is a bit better, but if you will be gaming on a single 1080P monitor, you probably can't tell the difference.

6. The previous suggestions are intended to save you enough to buy new. But one Item I would add to your build would be a 120gb ssd for the os and a handful of games. Everything will feel so much faster. Add a hard drive for expansion later if you need to.
If you have no need for bulk storage like video's, then a 180gb or 240gb ssd may mean that you never have to use a hard drive at all.

--------------good luck------------------
a c 236 U Graphics card
February 20, 2013 10:15:33 PM

I see you are thinking about sli in the future.
I am very much against that.
Here is my canned rant on that:
-----------------------------Start of rant----------------------------------------------------
Dual graphics cards vs. a good single card.

a) How good do you really need to be?
A single GTX650/ti or 7770 can give you good performance at 1920 x 1200 in most games.

A single GTX660 or 7850 will give you excellent performance at 1920 x 1200 in most games.
Even 2560 x 1600 will be good with lowered detail.
A single gtx690 is about as good as it gets.

Only if you are looking at triple monitor gaming, then sli/cf will be needed.
Even that is now changing with triple monitor support on top end cards.

b) The costs for a single card are lower.
You require a less expensive motherboard; no need for sli/cf or multiple pci-e slots.
Even a ITX motherboard will do.

Your psu costs are less.
A GTX660 needs a 430w psu, even a GTX680 only needs a 550w psu.
When you add another card to the mix, plan on adding 150-200w to your psu requirements.

Even the strongest GTX690 only needs 620w.

Case cooling becomes more of an issue with dual cards.
That means a more expensive case with more and stronger fans.
You will also look at more noise.

c) Dual cards do not always render their half of the display in sync, causing microstuttering. It is an annoying effect.
The benefit of higher benchmark fps can be offset, particularly with lower tier cards.
Read this: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-geforce-stut...

d) dual card support is dependent on the driver. Not all games can benefit from dual cards.

e) cf/sli up front reduces your option to get another card for an upgrade. Not that I suggest you plan for that.
It will often be the case that replacing your current card with a newer gen card will offer a better upgrade path.
The GTX780 and amd 8000 series are not that far off.
-------------------------------End of rant-----------------------------------------------------------
February 20, 2013 10:27:05 PM

geofelt said:
I see you are thinking about sli in the future.
I am very much against that.
Here is my canned rant on that:
-----------------------------Start of rant----------------------------------------------------
Dual graphics cards vs. a good single card.

a) How good do you really need to be?
A single GTX650/ti or 7770 can give you good performance at 1920 x 1200 in most games.

A single GTX660 or 7850 will give you excellent performance at 1920 x 1200 in most games.
Even 2560 x 1600 will be good with lowered detail.
A single gtx690 is about as good as it gets.

Only if you are looking at triple monitor gaming, then sli/cf will be needed.
Even that is now changing with triple monitor support on top end cards.

b) The costs for a single card are lower.
You require a less expensive motherboard; no need for sli/cf or multiple pci-e slots.
Even a ITX motherboard will do.

Your psu costs are less.
A GTX660 needs a 430w psu, even a GTX680 only needs a 550w psu.
When you add another card to the mix, plan on adding 150-200w to your psu requirements.

Even the strongest GTX690 only needs 620w.

Case cooling becomes more of an issue with dual cards.
That means a more expensive case with more and stronger fans.
You will also look at more noise.

c) Dual cards do not always render their half of the display in sync, causing microstuttering. It is an annoying effect.
The benefit of higher benchmark fps can be offset, particularly with lower tier cards.
Read this: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-geforce-stut...

d) dual card support is dependent on the driver. Not all games can benefit from dual cards.

e) cf/sli up front reduces your option to get another card for an upgrade. Not that I suggest you plan for that.
It will often be the case that replacing your current card with a newer gen card will offer a better upgrade path.
The GTX780 and amd 8000 series are not that far off.
-------------------------------End of rant-----------------------------------------------------------


my only thing is i cant afford to spend 1000 dollars on a card alone, dont get me wrong i would love a 690 but idk how much money i will be getting in order for me to buy that card. i have my build right now set to around 1000 dollars in total which with my guess will take me a few months to get all of it with parts+shipping ect. and how noticable is the micro studdering? my eyes are not very sensitive and i wonder if i will even notice the stutters, im so used to playing with lagg on everything lol. (edit) im also playing only on either a 32 inch 720p tv or a 81 inch 1080p tv
a c 236 U Graphics card
February 20, 2013 10:36:43 PM

gokitty199 said:
my only thing is i cant afford to spend 1000 dollars on a card alone, dont get me wrong i would love a 690 but idk how much money i will be getting in order for me to buy that card. i have my build right now set to around 1000 dollars in total which with my guess will take me a few months to get all of it with parts+shipping ect. and how noticable is the micro studdering? my eyes are not very sensitive and i wonder if i will even notice the stutters, im so used to playing with lagg on everything lol


Here is an interesting article on microstuttering: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-geforce-stut...

We all have a budget of some sort.
Just how good can you be with a $1000 budget? Very good indeed.
I think that for a single monitor, you will get declining benefits for your added graphics card dollar past a GTX670 class card.

I do not see current price/performance of current graphics cards dropping much until the costs go down with a shift from 28nm to 20nm construction.

When that time comes, an upgrade would be best accomplished by selling what you have and replacing your old card with the new.

Why spend more now for a sli capable motherboard and a stronger psu when both will be obsolete when haswell and the next gen 20nm cards arrive?
February 20, 2013 10:49:27 PM

geofelt said:
Here is an interesting article on microstuttering: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-geforce-stut...

We all have a budget of some sort.
Just how good can you be with a $1000 budget? Very good indeed.
I think that for a single monitor, you will get declining benefits for your added graphics card dollar past a GTX670 class card.

I do not see current price/performance of current graphics cards dropping much until the costs go down with a shift from 28nm to 20nm construction.

When that time comes, an upgrade would be best accomplished by selling what you have and replacing your old card with the new.

Why spend more now for a sli capable motherboard and a stronger psu when both will be obsolete when haswell and the next gen 20nm cards arrive?

i followed your advice for motherboard and RAM. i think im sticking to the gtx670 because it also has a 30 day return policy and it says the condition is pretty good. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/EQqO down to 700 dollars minus the gpu which is 300, and what improvemtns will a ssd give me if i install my OS and a few of my main games on it?
a c 236 U Graphics card
February 20, 2013 11:01:12 PM

gokitty199 said:
i followed your advice for motherboard and RAM. i think im sticking to the gtx670 because it also has a 30 day return policy and it says the condition is pretty good. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/EQqO down to 700 dollars minus the gpu which is 300, and what improvemtns will a ssd give me if i install my OS and a few of my main games on it?


With a SSD you will load levels about 2x faster.
Past that, all your desktop operations will be faster, files open instantly.
A os install or maintenance update that takes an hour will tale 5-10 minutes.
I highly recommend a ssd.

I might be careful about fast ram and high heat spreaders. They can interfere with your cooler.

I might suggest this g.skil ares 8gb kit of 1600: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
February 20, 2013 11:03:16 PM

geofelt said:
With a SSD you will load levels about 2x faster.
Past that, all your desktop operations will be faster, files open instantly.
A os install or maintenance update that takes an hour will tale 5-10 minutes.
I highly recommend a ssd.

and now adding a ssd lol. i just hate the dang price of them. are they liquid proof? like if i want to turn my pc into a fishtank or something and fill it with mineral oil would it be good?
February 20, 2013 11:21:12 PM

Just a thought on the SSD. Most PC games nowadays need to be downloaded so even if he wasn't storing videos it would still take a lot of space. I have about 200GB worth of games on my PC's secondary drive that is almost all games. And that's only about 12 steam games. Of course I also have GW2 which is like 25GB or something.
February 20, 2013 11:22:13 PM

Just a thought on the SSD. Most PC games nowadays need to be downloaded so even if he wasn't storing videos it would still take a lot of space. I have about 200GB worth of games on my PC's secondary drive that is almost all games. And that's only about 12 steam games. Of course I also have GW2 which is like 25GB or something.
February 20, 2013 11:22:59 PM

gokitty199 said:
and now adding a ssd lol. i just hate the dang price of them. are they liquid proof? like if i want to turn my pc into a fishtank or something and fill it with mineral oil would it be good?

Don't... Make a mineral oil pc.... For your own sake.
February 21, 2013 5:59:47 PM

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