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February 21, 2013 10:29:10 AM


8-core x86 CPU (built by AMD)
PC GPU, delivering almost 2 TFLOPS of performance.
Unified 8GB of GDDR5 memory for use by both the CPU and GPU with 176GB/s of memory bandwidth
Large local hard drive

"We don't know specifics of the GPU, but with approaching 2 TFLOPS we're looking at a level of performance somewhere between a Radeon HD 7850 and 7870. The highest end PC GPUs are already faster than this, but the PS4's GPU is a lot faster than the PS3's RSX which was derived from NVIDIA's G70 architecture (used in the GeForce 7800 GTX, for example). "

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6770/sony-announces-plays...

The design of the Radeon 7900M series has its roots to the Pitcairn chip as found, for example, on the desktop Radeon HD 7870. The 7970M in particular is similar to its desktop 7870 counterpart with 1280 1D shader cores and 80 texture units, but has a core clock of only 850 MHz versus the 1000 MHz of the HD 7870. As a result, general performance of the HD 7970M is expected to lie somewhere between the 7850 and 7870 desktop Radeon cards.

The TDP is 100W again confirming its not power hungry making it console friendly

http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-HD-7970M.72675....

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February 21, 2013 11:25:12 AM

It would be exciting, but by the time the PS4 actually makes it to market, it will be using a mid-tier last-gen video card. Bfd.

We can only pray software companies will continue to produce PC games and not force us into last-gen mid-tier graphics on a console for a decade at a time.
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February 21, 2013 11:30:33 AM

2 TFLOPS? That's what you get from a 6870.
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February 21, 2013 5:33:43 PM

Um if it's the equivalent of the 7870, then that means it's like a gtx 580 or close to like a 660ti, which is a pretty damn good card if you ask me. Considering the fact that the 660ti can play games like Crysis 3 with a mix of high very high settings I think it's safe to say that the graphics of the new consoles will be pretty phenomenal.

Also you have to factor in that the ps4 is build specifically for gaming and the graphics on it will naturally get better overtime as developers find ways to get the most out of the hardware. The graphics of the ps4 will one day surpass those of even Crysis 3 on ultra, so I'd say that's pretty damn good for consoles. The card in the ps4 is better than my current one and there are technically only 3 cards that are better than in it (I guess 4 now with Titan) at this current point.

The Ps4's graphics will be mind blowing, about the same as you will see in high end systems today. Granted, by the time it comes out PC technology will be that much farther ahead, but if it came out tomorrow it would compete with all but the most high end rigs.

Oh and It has 8gb of ram, that is used for both the graphics and processing, and we all know the OS isn't going to use very much so let's call that a cool 6 gb of vram? At the very minimum 4gb. So yeah, ultra high res textures, 1080p crysis 3 ultra settings all on a giant flatscreen with the added benefit of playing side by side with friends. I'm going to be buying one, only problem is they will probably be very hard to come by.
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February 21, 2013 6:07:18 PM

It's not the equivalent of the 7870. Performance-wise it's closer to the 6870.
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February 21, 2013 6:09:37 PM

Sakkura said:
It's not the equivalent of the 7870. Performance-wise it's closer to the 6870.

A year from now, that doesn't seem so exciting.
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February 21, 2013 6:13:43 PM

ubercake said:
A year from now, that doesn't seem so exciting.


Oh, I thought the post said 7870, or equivalent? So it's like a gtx 570 then or something around there? Are Tflops the be all end all? Wat about shader, cores and all that nonsense?

Yeah just looked at AMD's site, so it's about the equivalent of the GTX 560 that I got a year ago for my PC. It produces great graphics all the same, I can run crysis 3 on high and it lookds great. Consoles are always better optimized and they will squeeze every drop of performance out of it so eventually it may approach a 580 in terms of graphical prowess. Is that a poor assumption?
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February 21, 2013 6:42:25 PM

Hope they change the operating system it sucks.

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February 21, 2013 7:03:51 PM

bryjoered said:
Oh, I thought the post said 7870, or equivalent? So it's like a gtx 570 then or something around there? Are Tflops the be all end all? Wat about shader, cores and all that nonsense?

Yeah just looked at AMD's site, so it's about the equivalent of the GTX 560 that I got a year ago for my PC. It produces great graphics all the same, I can run crysis 3 on high and it lookds great. Consoles are always better optimized and they will squeeze every drop of performance out of it so eventually it may approach a 580 in terms of graphical prowess. Is that a poor assumption?

TFLOPS are not the be all end all. They can be rather misleading, especially when comparing across different architectures. Nevertheless, the GPU appears to be a cut-down and heavily underclocked version of the 7870. So on a pure hardware performance level, it would be weaker than a 7850.

But you're absolutely right, they'll be able to squeeze more actual performance out of it than you ever could on the PC.
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February 21, 2013 7:05:31 PM

zeri1 said:
Hope they change the operating system it sucks.

That's the truth, but like Sony TVs, I think they're sticking with the strange pop-out menus.
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February 21, 2013 7:52:09 PM

Sakkura said:
TFLOPS are not the be all end all. They can be rather misleading, especially when comparing across different architectures. Nevertheless, the GPU appears to be a cut-down and heavily underclocked version of the 7870. So on a pure hardware performance level, it would be weaker than a 7850.

But you're absolutely right, they'll be able to squeeze more actual performance out of it than you ever could on the PC.


Yeah so it's more like the 560ti, or maybe slightly better out of the box. (It's a lot easier for me to think in nvidia terms) Which can potentially be pushed to the graphical fidelity of the 570 or maybe even the 660ti late in the console cycle. Graphics definitely improved every year in the last console generation, one- two years after release they make big leaps then just minor improvements.Still it's a card capable of performing tesselation in 1080p and running a game like Crysis on high, which still is really really good graphics. Even in a years time, it comes out in the fall btw, I don't think we will see a game that looks much better than Crysis 3.
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March 6, 2013 6:08:20 PM

"and we all know the OS isn't going to use very much"

Do we? Who said? From what I understand the console has a lot more going on in the background than previous consoles, so what your saying is pure speculation.

Sony are planning ahead with headroom for future games, every console before it has hit major problems with too little RAM.
Also PC's can page VRAM in and out of system RAM, bring up info on a running card it will show available graphics ram 2 - 4 times actual VRAM so it's kind of a moot point.
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March 8, 2013 5:43:07 PM

At this point it's pretty much ALL speculation.

I don't expect leaps and bounds in GPU tech in the next year enough to make me think this is going to be a bad purchase. I think with the OS and hardware being made for each other, the performance and visual aspects of this system will perform profoundly in comparison to the PS3. As TV's are still limited to 1080P, we also aren't asking my PS4 to push the 2560x1440 my PC has to to meet my requirements.

I'm looking forward to playing Crysis 3 level visuals on the couch. Maybe this will finally get me away from spending an easy $1k a year on trying to keep my gaming rig "up to date".

As a hardcore PC gamer, I have a feeling there will be a new awe with the PS4 seeing some very striking graphics on a 50...60....70" TV. Something you just can't get from a 24..27..30" PC monitor.

Now if for once I can plug in my Razer Nostromo and Black Mamba mouse to the PS4...though unlikely....I'd be in fragtastic heaven.
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March 8, 2013 6:02:36 PM

As with the last generation of consoles, I will own each console at one point once they're out. I hope they'll have an option for wireless keyboard and mouse controls in games.

Here's how it will all go down for me (I know how I am!)...I'll get each of the consoles. I'll keep the console I like most, sell the others and after a year or three when the graphics stagnate on the console and the games have all become lame sequels, my good ole' upgradeable PC will be the mainstay for gaming while the console fills the primary purpose of a media/streaming device on the main TV set.

Let's just hope the MS console has a better launch than the last one did, eh? I returned three the same day a month after launch. All of which threw errors, froze, or red ringed. Then I gave up on it and just before the PS3 was released, I got a 360 which failed after a month and had to be sent to McAllen, TX to be repaired. I received it a week later and it worked for three more years then failed. While the 360 was working during that three-year period, I bought a PS3. After two months I couldn't stand how loud that thing was (I had the one backward compatible with the PS2 mind you), the PSN was absolutely lame in comparison to Xbox Live and blu-ray wasn't even enough for me to want to keep the PS3 around. That PS3 was as loud as any PC I've ever owned even when just playing a blu-ray. Also, within that time, I bought a Wii and that was novel for about a month, fortunately that was in high demand and I sold it for the more than I bought it.

I bought a replacement for the 360 that lasted three years (after the one failed) and it's worked ever since. Kinect is awesome. I seldom game on the thing though. For the most part, my TV's built-in streaming services could fulfill my needs, but I like the voice activation/navigation the Kinect offers.

But I digress...
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March 8, 2013 6:41:51 PM

I basically didn't bother reading any of the posts....

If I remember correctly, the GPU in the PS4 is estimated to have 1.86 teraflops of computational power. The closes match is the Radeon HD 7850 which has 1.76 teraflops of computational power. The Radeon HD 7850 is more or less an "entry level high end card".

The good thing about all upcoming PS4s is that they all use the same exact graphics card. That means game developers do not need to worry about using codes that works well enough with nVidia and AMD graphic cards. They also do not even have to bother worrying about older or newer generation cards that may need to have different coding to optimize performance. Generally, when writing code to optimize performance for a specific card, then all other cards can potentially suffer from lower performance.

With a single GPU, coding games is much easier and more optimized. As developers becomes more familiar with the GPU, then in time future games can either perform better, look better or both.

As is the case with any console, eventually they will be considered to have obsolete hardware because their hardware is static while new hardware for PCs rolls out about ever 9 months - 12 months.
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March 21, 2013 11:06:37 AM

i don't think it reach GTX 580 performance i'm thinking its going be at GTX 560 6870. or roughly Performance maybe little less , if it does reach GTX 580 then i'm nerd rage and have upgrade :(  HD7850 is 30% slower then GTX580 HD6870 vs The GTX 580 its roughly 50% more powerfull, then HD6870
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March 29, 2013 10:24:28 PM

jaguarskx said:
I basically didn't bother reading any of the posts....

If I remember correctly, the GPU in the PS4 is estimated to have 1.86 teraflops of computational power. The closes match is the Radeon HD 7850 which has 1.76 teraflops of computational power. The Radeon HD 7850 is more or less an "entry level high end card".

The good thing about all upcoming PS4s is that they all use the same exact graphics card. That means game developers do not need to worry about using codes that works well enough with nVidia and AMD graphic cards. They also do not even have to bother worrying about older or newer generation cards that may need to have different coding to optimize performance. Generally, when writing code to optimize performance for a specific card, then all other cards can potentially suffer from lower performance.

With a single GPU, coding games is much easier and more optimized. As developers becomes more familiar with the GPU, then in time future games can either perform better, look better or both.

As is the case with any console, eventually they will be considered to have obsolete hardware because their hardware is static while new hardware for PCs rolls out about ever 9 months - 12 months.

The GPU only need to be compliant to whatever code the game engine runs on.
Developers only have to be familiar with the Tool sets developed for whatever engine is developed to run the content .
I'm not crazy about throwing all that corporate money at such a narrow way of thinking .
It has the potential to stagnate creativity because you're forced to stay within it's capabilities .
which as of now are only slightly higher than mid level performance.
Ultimately it's becoming clear that consoles as a concept is failing.
It's a very nice shinny box with a turd inside .

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March 29, 2013 10:48:42 PM

They didn't start working on the console this year, possibly, 2 years ago. I'd say 6850
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April 3, 2013 9:08:36 AM

Glite said:
They didn't start working on the console this year, possibly, 2 years ago. I'd say 6850


I know this is blasphemous to PC gamers, but for the majority of my single player games, I switch to my 42 inch HDTV and use my XBOX 360 controller. I think it looks better number one, and number two I think it's more comfortable to play on the bed with a simple controller in hand. I still game on BF3 on the monitor cuz I have to be competitive, and other games that don't have controller support. The controller couch set up is better, I'm sorry. Consoles are ALWAYS worth having for the sheer fact of when you have friends over NOBODY wants to hang out and take turns playing PC games with a mouse/keyboard.
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April 3, 2013 9:35:09 AM

bryjoered said:
I know this is blasphemous to PC gamers, but for the majority of my single player games, I switch to my 42 inch HDTV and use my XBOX 360 controller. I think it looks better number one, and number two I think it's more comfortable to play on the bed with a simple controller in hand. I still game on BF3 on the monitor cuz I have to be competitive, and other games that don't have controller support. The controller couch set up is better, I'm sorry. Consoles are ALWAYS worth having for the sheer fact of when you have friends over NOBODY wants to hang out and take turns playing PC games with a mouse/keyboard.

You can play on the couch or bed with a controller on the PC too. The difference is the PC leaves all the options open, a console doesn't. This goes for lots of other aspects too, simply because the console is defined by one company, and is locked to their vision. This has benefits as well as drawbacks.
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April 3, 2013 10:12:46 AM

Sakkura said:
bryjoered said:
I know this is blasphemous to PC gamers, but for the majority of my single player games, I switch to my 42 inch HDTV and use my XBOX 360 controller. I think it looks better number one, and number two I think it's more comfortable to play on the bed with a simple controller in hand. I still game on BF3 on the monitor cuz I have to be competitive, and other games that don't have controller support. The controller couch set up is better, I'm sorry. Consoles are ALWAYS worth having for the sheer fact of when you have friends over NOBODY wants to hang out and take turns playing PC games with a mouse/keyboard.

You can play on the couch or bed with a controller on the PC too. The difference is the PC leaves all the options open, a console doesn't. This goes for lots of other aspects too, simply because the console is defined by one company, and islocked to their vision. This has benefits as well as drawbacks.


Duhh I was referring to the PC aint nobody got time for console graphics!!
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April 3, 2013 11:20:59 AM

Your last sentence certainly made it seem like you were referring to consoles. But apologies if I misunderstood.
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April 3, 2013 1:20:36 PM

Sakkura said:
Your last sentence certainly made it seem like you were referring to consoles. But apologies if I misunderstood.


Yeah It was a little misleading. I play most of my PC single player games via a mini HDMI cable on my HDTV using a xbox 360 controller for windows. My last sentence I feel is true as well, consoles are much better when you want to locally play a game with friends. Consoles also have the advantage of being relatively hacker free in multiplayer, but FPS are always better on the PC in my opinion.
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May 21, 2013 11:32:39 PM

bryjoered said:
Um if it's the equivalent of the 7870, then that means it's like a gtx 580 or close to like a 660ti, which is a pretty damn good card if you ask me. Considering the fact that the 660ti can play games like Crysis 3 with a mix of high very high settings I think it's safe to say that the graphics of the new consoles will be pretty phenomenal.

Also you have to factor in that the ps4 is build specifically for gaming and the graphics on it will naturally get better overtime as developers find ways to get the most out of the hardware. The graphics of the ps4 will one day surpass those of even Crysis 3 on ultra, so I'd say that's pretty damn good for consoles. The card in the ps4 is better than my current one and there are technically only 3 cards that are better than in it (I guess 4 now with Titan) at this current point.

There are SEVERAL cards better than the ps4 card. my GTX 660 2gb oc is an example. there isn't a game out there i can't max graphics on. and the graphics card for the ps4 can not surpass anything, it will be the same card in the console ten years from now. also can you mod games on the ps4? can you tweek all the graphics settings like on pc? and most important, can you use a mouse on it? i believe the answer is no. so again another console fails yet people will buy it when a pc is much better and can always be upgraded

The Ps4's graphics will be mind blowing, about the same as you will see in high end systems today. Granted, by the time it comes out PC technology will be that much farther ahead, but if it came out tomorrow it would compete with all but the most high end rigs.

Oh and It has 8gb of ram, that is used for both the graphics and processing, and we all know the OS isn't going to use very much so let's call that a cool 6 gb of vram? At the very minimum 4gb. So yeah, ultra high res textures, 1080p crysis 3 ultra settings all on a giant flatscreen with the added benefit of playing side by side with friends. I'm going to be buying one, only problem is they will probably be very hard to come by.


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June 10, 2013 12:47:15 PM

Soo, how does a Gtx 570 compare? Will it be able to last the console generation? Or will consoles eventually surpass my rig?
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June 10, 2013 12:58:28 PM

Kuffoman said:
Soo, how does a Gtx 570 compare? Will it be able to last the console generation? Or will consoles eventually surpass my rig?

Its about as fast. But with the better optimization console games have, they will likely be a bit faster, at least after a while.

570 is still plenty fast though.
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June 10, 2013 2:17:32 PM

Kuffoman said:
Soo, how does a Gtx 570 compare? Will it be able to last the console generation? Or will consoles eventually surpass my rig?

It won't last another 6+ year console generation. But it should still hold up well for a while yet.
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June 11, 2013 2:06:36 AM

PC OWNS ALL
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June 15, 2013 1:19:33 PM

7870 is pretty damn powerful So I agree with you I'm sure it does more than that :) 
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June 15, 2013 3:01:27 PM

will a i5 3470 be as strong as the ps4 cpu?
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June 15, 2013 4:45:31 PM

DjDafiDak said:
will a i5 3470 be as strong as the ps4 cpu?

The 3470 is a very fast quad core. The PS4 CPU is a slow 8-core CPU. When all 8 cores are utilized well, it may not be that much slower than the 3470 - but it definitely will be slower.
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June 15, 2013 6:37:27 PM

The PS4 and Xbox One uses two quad core AMD Jaguar CPUs; each quad core module will have it's own shared 2MB L2 cache. The Jaguar CPU is much weaker than AMD's FX series especially since the clockspeed is so much lower. The Jaguar architecture is basically a low power entry level CPU who's market outside of the consoles are geared towards tablets (2 core version) and low cost laptops / netbooks. Jaguar is AMD's successor to Bobcat who's direct competition is Intel's Atom CPU.

The i5-3470 is a much more powerful CPU.

You can read more about the Jaguar CPU in the following links:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6976/amds-jaguar-architec...

http://www.techradar.com/us/reviews/pc-mac/pc-component...


This information contradicts the "8 core Jaguar CPU" claim which basically means it is a single CPU with 8 cores rather than two quad core CPUs stuck together. I suppose we need to wait a little longer for more info.
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June 18, 2013 7:10:13 PM

Can I add a stupid answer in here, Consoles will always be better when they are released (fact), they will also always nearly be better when they leave. Why? Because games companies will always produce mass market, and as much as the Elite PC Gamers want to think that they drive the market buying £4000 machines, the game developers will always make a pc version that is compatible with the average joes £500 laptop... hence spending less on a console dedicated to games is the better option in the long run, you maybe can't upgrade as you desire, but the games get closer to perfection as the near their end. any way that is just my thoughts.

I also beleive you will never be able to truely make a cross platform game, which is a shame because there is nothing I wuold like more than to beat my friends that own an xbox or a P.C. or a Playstation on the same game that we all bought but cant play together....

Oh yeah and they will run it at a loss, sepecially since they will be getting the PS plus money
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June 18, 2013 10:36:37 PM

Kuffoman said:
Soo, how does a Gtx 570 compare? Will it be able to last the console generation? Or will consoles eventually surpass my rig?


Remember that a console is about 2-3 times more effective than a computer with similar specs. So the nearly 2 TFLOPS of the PS4 will be equal to a 4-6 TFLOPS highend PC.

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June 19, 2013 10:01:31 PM

bowzef said:
i don't think it reach GTX 580 performance i'm thinking its going be at GTX 560 6870. or roughly Performance maybe little less , if it does reach GTX 580 then i'm nerd rage and have upgrade :(  HD7850 is 30% slower then GTX580 HD6870 vs The GTX 580 its roughly 50% more powerfull, then HD6870


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August 27, 2013 11:43:02 AM

They're just hyping up the specs now....It won't perform as good as they say it will.
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September 13, 2013 2:36:34 PM

knightmetro said:
At this point it's pretty much ALL speculation.

I don't expect leaps and bounds in GPU tech in the next year enough to make me think this is going to be a bad purchase. I think with the OS and hardware being made for each other, the performance and visual aspects of this system will perform profoundly in comparison to the PS3. As TV's are still limited to 1080P, we also aren't asking my PS4 to push the 2560x1440 my PC has to to meet my requirements.

I'm looking forward to playing Crysis 3 level visuals on the couch. Maybe this will finally get me away from spending an easy $1k a year on trying to keep my gaming rig "up to date".

As a hardcore PC gamer, I have a feeling there will be a new awe with the PS4 seeing some very striking graphics on a 50...60....70" TV. Something you just can't get from a 24..27..30" PC monitor.

Now if for once I can plug in my Razer Nostromo and Black Mamba mouse to the PS4...though unlikely....I'd be in fragtastic heaven.


tell me that when using a dell 30" at 2560 by 1600.. a 60" tv will still be 1080p no matter how much you piss about with it.. next gen purely wont be next gen..it just wont, it will have advancement but at Sony's pace, meaning some extra tessellation /lighting, maybe more fluid gameplay..and that will be it..dont forget that you paying a lot of money for old but tweaked hardware, a 6gb 7970-90 / titan is where its at graphically, these cards are serious bits of kit, hence why they cost £500+ plus just for a card not a whole gaming system.. do yourself a favor guys and just wait and play with someone else s first, you WILL be disappointed no different to a game that has had amazing pr and when it gets released it's nothing like the hype..

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September 13, 2013 2:39:05 PM

IAmSnowy said:
They're just hyping up the specs now....It won't perform as good as they say it will.


exactly mate..a bit like our gaming market now with some titles


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September 13, 2013 3:00:10 PM

It will certainly blow any other 2013 $400 gaming system out of the water especially as time goes on. But thats all it will do, play games and handle some media.
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September 13, 2013 3:06:54 PM

bryjoered said:
Glite said:
They didn't start working on the console this year, possibly, 2 years ago. I'd say 6850


I know this is blasphemous to PC gamers, but for the majority of my single player games, I switch to my 42 inch HDTV and use my XBOX 360 controller. I think it looks better number one, and number two I think it's more comfortable to play on the bed with a simple controller in hand. I still game on BF3 on the monitor cuz I have to be competitive, and other games that don't have controller support. The controller couch set up is better, I'm sorry. Consoles are ALWAYS worth having for the sheer fact of when you have friends over NOBODY wants to hang out and take turns playing PC games with a mouse/keyboard.


Why go out and buy a specialized machine when you could instead buy a generalized machine that can do everything the generalized machine can do and more?
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September 13, 2013 3:08:48 PM

shaun2k said:
knightmetro said:
At this point it's pretty much ALL speculation.

I don't expect leaps and bounds in GPU tech in the next year enough to make me think this is going to be a bad purchase. I think with the OS and hardware being made for each other, the performance and visual aspects of this system will perform profoundly in comparison to the PS3. As TV's are still limited to 1080P, we also aren't asking my PS4 to push the 2560x1440 my PC has to to meet my requirements.

I'm looking forward to playing Crysis 3 level visuals on the couch. Maybe this will finally get me away from spending an easy $1k a year on trying to keep my gaming rig "up to date".

As a hardcore PC gamer, I have a feeling there will be a new awe with the PS4 seeing some very striking graphics on a 50...60....70" TV. Something you just can't get from a 24..27..30" PC monitor.

Now if for once I can plug in my Razer Nostromo and Black Mamba mouse to the PS4...though unlikely....I'd be in fragtastic heaven.


tell me that when using a dell 30" at 2560 by 1600.. a 60" tv will still be 1080p no matter how much you piss about with it.. next gen purely wont be next gen..it just wont, it will have advancement but at Sony's pace, meaning some extra tessellation /lighting, maybe more fluid gameplay..and that will be it..dont forget that you paying a lot of money for old but tweaked hardware, a 6gb 7970-90 / titan is where its at graphically, these cards are serious bits of kit, hence why they cost £500+ plus just for a card not a whole gaming system.. do yourself a favor guys and just wait and play with someone else s first, you WILL be disappointed no different to a game that has had amazing pr and when it gets released it's nothing like the hype..



Plus all that shared ram will be a friend to lazy developers. Games will be very lazily made but the ram would solve most of the problems. We dont need more lazy devs around here.
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September 27, 2013 1:34:34 PM

InsideDK said:
Kuffoman said:
Soo, how does a Gtx 570 compare? Will it be able to last the console generation? Or will consoles eventually surpass my rig?


Remember that a console is about 2-3 times more effective than a computer with similar specs. So the nearly 2 TFLOPS of the PS4 will be equal to a 4-6 TFLOPS highend PC.



Shut the hell up with your 4-6 terraflops. Where did you get your computer engineering degree. If these next consoles play half of the games at 1080 and 60 fps i will be shocked. Oh wait they CANT because they are limited the HDMI 1.0. all you nerds forgot about that. enjoy your choppy 1080 gameplay until hdmi v1.4 is available for these next gen consoles, eventually. I predict the same chopped up frame rate only at 1080. however to a console gamer that is a bonus considering average gameplay on the old ps3 is only about 24fps. Technology needs to push for higher frame rates not higher resolution.
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October 27, 2013 8:02:53 PM

"We don't know specifics of the GPU, but with approaching 2 TFLOPS we're looking at a level of performance somewhere between a Radeon HD 7850 and 7870. The highest end PC GPUs are already faster than this, but the PS4's GPU is a lot faster than the PS3's RSX which was derived from NVIDIA's G70 architecture (used in the GeForce 7800 GTX, for example). "

GTX 770 3,2 TFLOPS, 224 GB/s memory band width.

192-bit 760 comes in a little lower, 256 bit higher. Very nice I guess.

The graphics card is about half the price of the PS4, a complete PC would cost a little more, could build one with an AMD APU for cheap though. It would likely not perform as well as the console and not come with the controller and use up more space but..

Seem kinda fair and I appreciate being able to see true numbers and hardware configuration rather than OMG TEH SUPER KÅMPJÅTAR!
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October 27, 2013 8:04:30 PM

InsideDK said:
Kuffoman said:
Soo, how does a Gtx 570 compare? Will it be able to last the console generation? Or will consoles eventually surpass my rig?


Remember that a console is about 2-3 times more effective than a computer with similar specs. So the nearly 2 TFLOPS of the PS4 will be equal to a 4-6 TFLOPS highend PC.

lol.

Closer to the truth: Remember console gamers are happy with 720p 30 FPS medium settings so they won't understand what that extra 2-3 times of computing power is used for.
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