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Hi all,

Can someone tell me how to get the guitar to the computer? Right now I
have a port that goes from my guitar to the amplifier, but it is a
thick plug, about one centimeter in diameter! I have no inputs on my
computer that are that big, only inputs that are the size of headphone
plugs! I need some device to enable a big plug to enter a little
socket. Can someone please help me? I want to play guitar onto my
computer without having to tape record myself.

Thanks,

Jonathan

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Go to Radio Shack and ask them for an adaptor to adapt your guitar plug
(take it with you if you can) to the input of your soundcard (usually a
1/8 inch audio plug). They will find the right adaptor for you.

--James--

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"James Nipper" <jnipper@nospam.fdn.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Go to Radio Shack and ask them for an adaptor to adapt your guitar plug
> (take it with you if you can) to the input of your soundcard (usually a
> 1/8 inch audio plug). They will find the right adaptor for you.

No they won't becasue it doesn't exist. You guitar needs a preamp with the
right (very high) input impedence, and gain to put the signal up to 'Line
In' level suitable for your soundcard input.

Suggest you buy a guitar mag, or cumputer music mag to get acquainted with
relevant products and techniques.


geoff

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On 15-11-04 02:35, in article sumdnci33eyRlQXcRVn-gQ@comcast.com, "James
Nipper" <jnipper@nospam.fdn.com> wrote:

> Go to Radio Shack and ask them for an adaptor to adapt your guitar plug
> (take it with you if you can) to the input of your soundcard (usually a
> 1/8 inch audio plug). They will find the right adaptor for you.

But that would probably not help much, unless you have a built in pre-amp in
your sound card. I do it like this: I've got a tiny Laney 10 watt rehersal
amp. I plug my guitar into that. Then a cord from the amp's headphones
output (big rca plug adapter goes into phones output) to the sound input on
my PowerBook.

mac

--
www.justanotherbluesband.com

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Most guitar amps have either a line out, DI out or headphone socket, any can
be used to link directly into a sound card with the relevant adapter to
match the input on the card.

I have actually played direct into my sound card straight from a guitar
although you will lose any effects your amp provides, and used the 'input'
gain on a program such as Sonar or Audition to balance the input.

I use an Audigy card now with the external connections box (what ever it is
called) which has a selection of inputs with an input gain
control......perfect.

if you need an amp for sound corrections such as O/d etc and there is no
output from your amp (some Marshalls have nothing) then mic it up and pur
that into your sound card.

AlunP

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"Geoff Wood" <geoff@paf.co.nz-nospam> wrote in message news:<7fVld.1353$3U4.115612@news02.tsnz.net>...
> "James Nipper" <jnipper@nospam.fdn.com> wrote in message
> news:sumdnci33eyRlQXcRVn-gQ@comcast.com...
> >
> >
> > Go to Radio Shack and ask them for an adaptor to adapt your guitar plug
> > (take it with you if you can) to the input of your soundcard (usually a
> > 1/8 inch audio plug). They will find the right adaptor for you.
>
> No they won't becasue it doesn't exist. You guitar needs a preamp with the
> right (very high) input impedence, and gain to put the signal up to 'Line
> In' level suitable for your soundcard input.
>
> Suggest you buy a guitar mag, or cumputer music mag to get acquainted with
> relevant products and techniques.
>
>
> geoff

I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one- A 1/4 inch
(standard guitar plug size) to 1/8 inch (headphone jack size) adaptor
does indeed exist- I've got one. As James suggested, get thee to Radio
Shack, and tell them what you need. Depending on your soundcard, you
may need a preamp, but you should be able to get along without one. Of
course, the best thing to do would be to get a soundcard that's
designed for it (soundblaster audigy 2 platinum or something high
end), which has the 1/4 inch input, but I've done recording with an
adaptor into the line in, and it's worked fine.

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I forgot to mention that I am using an acoustic with pickup, so there
is sound intrinsicaslly from the guitar, unlike an electric, which
needs to be amplified. I suppose I'll just buy the .25 -> .125 inch
adapter so I can plug my acoustic guitar into my sound card.

"Alun P" <alun.priddle@NOSPAMblueyonderDOTcoDOTuk> wrote in message news:<pPZld.33770$Q7.31701@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk>...
> Most guitar amps have either a line out, DI out or headphone socket, any can
> be used to link directly into a sound card with the relevant adapter to
> match the input on the card.
>
> I have actually played direct into my sound card straight from a guitar
> although you will lose any effects your amp provides, and used the 'input'
> gain on a program such as Sonar or Audition to balance the input.
>
> I use an Audigy card now with the external connections box (what ever it is
> called) which has a selection of inputs with an input gain
> control......perfect.
>
> if you need an amp for sound corrections such as O/d etc and there is no
> output from your amp (some Marshalls have nothing) then mic it up and pur
> that into your sound card.
>
> AlunP

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"Jonathan Wolfson" <jon3825@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> I forgot to mention that I am using an acoustic with pickup, so there
> is sound intrinsicaslly from the guitar, unlike an electric, which
> needs to be amplified. I suppose I'll just buy the .25 -> .125 inch
> adapter so I can plug my acoustic guitar into my sound card.

If it's a piezo pickup rather than magnetic, with no preamp inside the
guitar, it's likely to sound really, really bad. Most sound cards have an
input impedance, on the line input, of about 10 kilohms, or 10k. Piezo
pickups prefer to be loaded by at least 100x that, 1 megohm or more. They
sound thin and distorted into lower impedances.

On the other hand, if there's a preamp built into the guitar (you can tell
because it needs a battery), you may get good results.

Peace,
Paul

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Jonathan Wolfson <jon3825@gmail.com> wrote:

>Can someone tell me how to get the guitar to the computer? Right now I
>have a port that goes from my guitar to the amplifier, but it is a
>thick plug, about one centimeter in diameter! I have no inputs on my
>computer that are that big, only inputs that are the size of headphone
>plugs! I need some device to enable a big plug to enter a little
>socket. Can someone please help me? I want to play guitar onto my
>computer without having to tape record myself.

Have a look at the M-Audio FastTrack USB:

http://www.m-audio.com/products/en [...] -main.html

--
Len Moskowitz PDAudio, Binaural Mics, Cables, DPA, M-Audio
Core Sound http://www.stealthmicrophones.com
Teaneck, New Jersey USA http://www.core-sound.com
moskowit@core-sound.com Tel: 201-801-0812, FAX: 201-801-0912

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"Jonathan Wolfson" <jon3825@gmail.com> wrote

> Can someone tell me how to get the guitar to the computer? Right now I
> have a port that goes from my guitar to the amplifier, but it is a
> thick plug, about one centimeter in diameter! I have no inputs on my
> computer that are that big, only inputs that are the size of headphone
> plugs! I need some device to enable a big plug to enter a little
> socket. Can someone please help me? I want to play guitar onto my
> computer without having to tape record myself.

I've only just found this newsgroup, so pardon me folks for not lurking a
while before jumping in.

Jonatan, I plug my guitar and bass directly into the mic input on my laptop
(running Sonic Foundry's Acid and Sound Forge), works fine, even with
pedals! The only problem is having to keep the volume pot(s) on the guitar
down near zero instead of cranked up to full. This and no amp means you will
be getting a sound that's very different to your usual "live" sound, but if
all you are doing is sketching ideas, working stuff out, or making rough
demos it's great. Don't let techie purists baffle you with science, all you
need is a 1/4 inch to 1/8 inch jack converter that'll cost only pennies
(most of these are stereo but not worry they'll still work). Sure, you won't
get the best results in the world, but it doesn't sound like you need those
yet, seems to me you just want to get up and running.


Fiona

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"manoutoftime" <adamjsmith75@yahoo.com> wrote in message >
> I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one- A 1/4 inch
> (standard guitar plug size) to 1/8 inch (headphone jack size) adaptor
> does indeed exist- I've got one.

The physical plug exists. The function you are asking it to perform
doesn't.

If he's lucky, his pickup may have a preamp of sorts , and the results won't
be quite as bad.

geoff

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I had pretty good luck using the 1/4 to 1/8 adaptor, and Revalver. Not
ideal due to the slight lag induced by the PC, but got some great tones out
of it.

http://www.alienconnections.com/downloads.htm#ReValver

"manoutoftime" <adamjsmith75@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "Geoff Wood" <geoff@paf.co.nz-nospam> wrote in message
news:<7fVld.1353$3U4.115612@news02.tsnz.net>...
> > "James Nipper" <jnipper@nospam.fdn.com> wrote in message
> > news:sumdnci33eyRlQXcRVn-gQ@comcast.com...
> > >
> > >
> > > Go to Radio Shack and ask them for an adaptor to adapt your guitar
plug
> > > (take it with you if you can) to the input of your soundcard
(usually a
> > > 1/8 inch audio plug). They will find the right adaptor for you.
> >
> > No they won't becasue it doesn't exist. You guitar needs a preamp with
the
> > right (very high) input impedence, and gain to put the signal up to
'Line
> > In' level suitable for your soundcard input.
> >
> > Suggest you buy a guitar mag, or cumputer music mag to get acquainted
with
> > relevant products and techniques.
> >
> >
> > geoff
>
> I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one- A 1/4 inch
> (standard guitar plug size) to 1/8 inch (headphone jack size) adaptor
> does indeed exist- I've got one. As James suggested, get thee to Radio
> Shack, and tell them what you need. Depending on your soundcard, you
> may need a preamp, but you should be able to get along without one. Of
> course, the best thing to do would be to get a soundcard that's
> designed for it (soundblaster audigy 2 platinum or something high
> end), which has the 1/4 inch input, but I've done recording with an
> adaptor into the line in, and it's worked fine.

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"Alun P" <alun.priddle@NOSPAMblueyonderDOTcoDOTuk> wrote in message news:<pPZld.33770$Q7.31701@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk>...
> Most guitar amps have either a line out, DI out or headphone socket, any can
> be used to link directly into a sound card with the relevant adapter to
> match the input on the card.
>
Gosh I'm old.
Well...my twenty or so amps are anyway.

But yeah......get a preamp.....even an MXR Micro Amp.

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On 15 Nov 2004 00:53:26 -0800, adamjsmith75@yahoo.com (manoutoftime)
wrote:

>I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one- A 1/4 inch
>(standard guitar plug size) to 1/8 inch (headphone jack size) adaptor
>does indeed exist- I've got one. As James suggested, get thee to Radio
>Shack, and tell them what you need. Depending on your soundcard, you
>may need a preamp, but you should be able to get along without one. Of
>course, the best thing to do would be to get a soundcard that's
>designed for it (soundblaster audigy 2 platinum or something high
>end), which has the 1/4 inch input, but I've done recording with an
>adaptor into the line in, and it's worked fine.

You can certainly obtain the physical adaptor. It won't make the
output of a guitar electrically suitable for connection to either Line
In or Mic In of a soundcard though.

Play with Mic In. You may find the result acceptable. If not, get
a suitable preamp or mixer.

Or, as a guitarist, haven't you got a guitar amp? Maybe it has a
Line Out. Or many guitarists prefer to point a microphone at their
guitar amp's speaker.

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On 2004-11-15, Alun P <alun.priddle@NOSPAMblueyonderDOTcoDOTuk> wrote:


I don't want to get into the misinformation/misunderstaning that was
going on in this thread, but I would like to chime in, I had very good
results going from the headphone jack on a Korg Pandora to a
soundblaster AWE-64. If I set out to record an electric guitar today,
I would be tempted to do exactly the same thing, although I'd also try
a 57 pointed at my poor neglected Fender tube amp that never gets
played.

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On 14 Nov 2004 16:45:49 -0800, jon3825@gmail.com (Jonathan Wolfson)
wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>Can someone tell me how to get the guitar to the computer? Right now I
>have a port that goes from my guitar to the amplifier, but it is a
>thick plug, about one centimeter in diameter! I have no inputs on my
>computer that are that big, only inputs that are the size of headphone
>plugs! I need some device to enable a big plug to enter a little
>socket. Can someone please help me? I want to play guitar onto my
>computer without having to tape record myself.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Jonathan

You need a sound card, mate.

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On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 08:31:17 GMT, "Alun P"
<alun.priddle@NOSPAMblueyonderDOTcoDOTuk> wrote:

>Most guitar amps have either a line out, DI out or headphone socket, any can
>be used to link directly into a sound card with the relevant adapter to
>match the input on the card.
>
>I have actually played direct into my sound card straight from a guitar
>although you will lose any effects your amp provides, and used the 'input'
>gain on a program such as Sonar or Audition to balance the input.
>
>I use an Audigy card now with the external connections box (what ever it is
>called) which has a selection of inputs with an input gain
>control......perfect.
>
>if you need an amp for sound corrections such as O/d etc and there is no
>output from your amp (some Marshalls have nothing) then mic it up and pur
>that into your sound card.
>
>AlunP

What sound card would you recommend?

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"james of tucson" <fishbowl@radagast.home.conservatory.com> wrote in message
news:slrncpif8e.2fd.fishbowl@radagast.home.conservatory.com...
> On 2004-11-15, Alun P <alun.priddle@NOSPAMblueyonderDOTcoDOTuk> wrote:
>
>
> I don't want to get into the misinformation/misunderstaning that was
> going on in this thread, but I would like to chime in, I had very good
> results going from the headphone jack on a Korg Pandora to a
> soundblaster AWE-64. If I set out to record an electric guitar today,
> I would be tempted to do exactly the same thing, although I'd also try
> a 57 pointed at my poor neglected Fender tube amp that never gets
> played.
>


Yeah, that way you don't need your fuzz-box !

geoff

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>On 15 Nov 2004 00:53:26 -0800, adamjsmith75@yahoo.com (manoutoftime)
>wrote:
>
>>I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one- A 1/4 inch
>>(standard guitar plug size) to 1/8 inch (headphone jack size) adaptor
>>does indeed exist- I've got one. As James suggested, get thee to Radio
>>Shack, and tell them what you need. Depending on your soundcard, you
>>may need a preamp, but you should be able to get along without one. Of
>>course, the best thing to do would be to get a soundcard that's
>>designed for it (soundblaster audigy 2 platinum or something high
>>end), which has the 1/4 inch input, but I've done recording with an
>>adaptor into the line in, and it's worked fine.

You know, I got a Fostex MR8 a while back, it is limited by the size flash card
you can afford (the large ones are expensive) but I ran a guitar thru its
guitar input and then directly out to a regular guitar amp that I had set as
clean as posable. It sounded quite good accualy, impressed everyone in the
room. I was intending to just see if it would work this way but found out that
the guitar im-u-lator was darn good.
You can also buss your recordings to a USB interface but it is limited to only
one pair of its 8 tracks so you have to leave space to bounce your mix to track
7/8 for exporting via a digital USB.

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