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April 10, 2005 2:13:08 PM

Archived from groups: alt.video.ptv.tivo (More info?)

hi all.

don't know if you've covered this before, but i don't want to hassle
with networking TiVo and Windoze. i'd like to pull the DTiVo hard
drive, connect to PC, copy the shows i want from the TiVo hard drive,
replace it back in the TiVo, and delete them on the DTiVo (Hughes
SDVR2).

i can connect to XP without worry by turning off the "Logical Disk
Manager Administrative Service" and can use various disk editing
utilities to save blocks from the DTiVo drive, but really don't know
where shows begin and end.

i then thought i could use the various utilities out there to convert
to a burnable format.

is this feasable? has it been done?

thanks!

nit
Anonymous
April 10, 2005 5:42:27 PM

Archived from groups: alt.video.ptv.tivo (More info?)

nitram wrote:
> hi all.
>
> don't know if you've covered this before, but i don't want to hassle
> with networking TiVo and Windoze. i'd like to pull the DTiVo hard
> drive, connect to PC, copy the shows i want from the TiVo hard drive,
> replace it back in the TiVo, and delete them on the DTiVo (Hughes
> SDVR2).
>
> i can connect to XP without worry by turning off the "Logical Disk
> Manager Administrative Service" and can use various disk editing
> utilities to save blocks from the DTiVo drive, but really don't know
> where shows begin and end.
>
> i then thought i could use the various utilities out there to convert
> to a burnable format.
>
> is this feasable? has it been done?

No. The shows are in a database and don't exist as files in any way
that Windows can recognize them. You will either have to hack the Tivo
to be able to transfer them, or use TTG like everyone else.

Randy S.
Anonymous
April 10, 2005 5:51:06 PM

Archived from groups: alt.video.ptv.tivo (More info?)

You don't want to hassle with throwing your tivo on your network, but you're
willing to crack the case on your TIVO (and your PC), unhook everything, and
remove the drive from the TIVO every time you want to transfer a show?
did I misunderstand you? I must have.


"nitram" <nospam@spam.bot> wrote in message
news:56ni51pjg6t8n6b6abp0oqt5vpq226hbgm@4ax.com...
> hi all.
>
> don't know if you've covered this before, but i don't want to hassle
> with networking TiVo and Windoze. i'd like to pull the DTiVo hard
> drive, connect to PC, copy the shows i want from the TiVo hard drive,
> replace it back in the TiVo, and delete them on the DTiVo (Hughes
> SDVR2).
>
> i can connect to XP without worry by turning off the "Logical Disk
> Manager Administrative Service" and can use various disk editing
> utilities to save blocks from the DTiVo drive, but really don't know
> where shows begin and end.
>
> i then thought i could use the various utilities out there to convert
> to a burnable format.
>
> is this feasable? has it been done?
>
> thanks!
>
> nit
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Anonymous
April 11, 2005 1:33:32 AM

Archived from groups: alt.video.ptv.tivo (More info?)

I think it's an interesting idea. His HD is full and he'd like to move
the archive to his computer to free up space on his Tivo and to edit the
movies on his computer. It doesn't mean he's going to move his hard
drive every time he Tivos a show. He'll just wait a few months until it
fills up again and then do it. You got a problem wit dat, Matty-o?


"Matty-o" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:v4mdnQF09KAU-sTfRVn-rw@comcast.com...
> You don't want to hassle with throwing your tivo on your network, but
you're
> willing to crack the case on your TIVO (and your PC), unhook
everything, and
> remove the drive from the TIVO every time you want to transfer a show?
> did I misunderstand you? I must have.
>
>
> "nitram" <nospam@spam.bot> wrote in message
> news:56ni51pjg6t8n6b6abp0oqt5vpq226hbgm@4ax.com...
> > hi all.
> >
> > don't know if you've covered this before, but i don't want to hassle
> > with networking TiVo and Windoze. i'd like to pull the DTiVo hard
> > drive, connect to PC, copy the shows i want from the TiVo hard
drive,
> > replace it back in the TiVo, and delete them on the DTiVo (Hughes
> > SDVR2).
> >
> > i can connect to XP without worry by turning off the "Logical Disk
> > Manager Administrative Service" and can use various disk editing
> > utilities to save blocks from the DTiVo drive, but really don't know
> > where shows begin and end.
> >
> > i then thought i could use the various utilities out there to
convert
> > to a burnable format.
> >
> > is this feasable? has it been done?
> >
> > thanks!
> >
> > nit
>
>
Anonymous
April 11, 2005 2:30:20 AM

Archived from groups: alt.video.ptv.tivo (More info?)

David Z wrote:
> I think it's an interesting idea. His HD is full and he'd like to move
> the archive to his computer to free up space on his Tivo and to edit the
> movies on his computer. It doesn't mean he's going to move his hard
> drive every time he Tivos a show. He'll just wait a few months until it
> fills up again and then do it. You got a problem wit dat, Matty-o?

I agree with Matt, if you're going to do something like that every few
months, isn't it easier to set it up over the network? I don't know
about you, but getting in and out of my entertainment center ain't that
easy. For a one time thing, maybe, but if you're going to do it more
than once, setting up the network will payoff, whether it's TTG or hacking.

But the main point is that you have to do it anyway, you can't transfer
files directly.

Randy S.
Anonymous
April 11, 2005 10:38:02 AM

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"Randy S." <rswittNO@SPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
news:D 3cnfs$16ce$1@spnode25.nerdc.ufl.edu...

> I agree with Matt, if you're going to do something like that
> every few months, isn't it easier to set it up over the network?

For some folks, maybe. I would like to take the digital files off my
Dtivo HD, but I get a headache everytime I look into what it takes to do
so.

I guess it depends on how much of the geekery you can avoid by pulling
the HD instead of networking.

> But the main point is that you have to do it anyway,
> you can't transfer files directly.

What if you booted your PC up in linux?
Anonymous
April 11, 2005 4:25:23 PM

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Even running Linux requires special byte-ordering hacks just to read the
disk for editing text based startup scripts. On top of that, you then
have the matter of the data being part of a complex database. Trying to
reading the data directly _increases_ the needed "geekery" quite a bit.

Using the networking hacks to do this leverages the massive work other
good folks have done to be able to extract video.

- Jerry

David Z wrote:
>
> I guess it depends on how much of the geekery you can avoid by pulling
> the HD instead of networking.
>
> What if you booted your PC up in linux?
>
>
Anonymous
April 11, 2005 5:43:56 PM

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Jerry Albro <jerry@albro.org> writes:

> Even running Linux requires special byte-ordering hacks just to read the
> disk for editing text based startup scripts. On top of that, you then
> have the matter of the data being part of a complex database. Trying to
> reading the data directly _increases_ the needed "geekery" quite a bit.

True. Also, the files on the DTivo are encrypted. So at the very
least, you will have to do enough hacks to disable the encryption,
which is most of the work in the first place.

But if you really want to pursue this route, see:

http://www.dealdatabase.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2319...

It is long and I have not read the whole thing; I did the networking
hack instead. But if there is an answer, it will be somewhere in that
thread.

If you want to reconsider trying the networking hack, start at
http://themurrays.homeip.net/downloads/tivo/tivo.html and go from
there.

- Pat
Anonymous
April 13, 2005 1:41:11 PM

Archived from groups: alt.video.ptv.tivo (More info?)

In article <s5gfyxxjjrt.fsf@patl=users.sf.net>,
"Patrick J. LoPresti" <patl@users.sourceforge.net> wrote:

> Jerry Albro <jerry@albro.org> writes:
>
> > Even running Linux requires special byte-ordering hacks just to read the
> > disk for editing text based startup scripts. On top of that, you then
> > have the matter of the data being part of a complex database. Trying to
> > reading the data directly _increases_ the needed "geekery" quite a bit.
>
> True. Also, the files on the DTivo are encrypted. So at the very
> least, you will have to do enough hacks to disable the encryption,
> which is most of the work in the first place.
>
> But if you really want to pursue this route, see:
>
> http://www.dealdatabase.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2319...
>
> It is long and I have not read the whole thing; I did the networking
> hack instead. But if there is an answer, it will be somewhere in that
> thread.
>
> If you want to reconsider trying the networking hack, start at
> http://themurrays.homeip.net/downloads/tivo/tivo.html and go from
> there.
>
> - Pat

http://www.weethet.nl/english/tivo_dtv2_hacksleeper.php...

is a far better starting point.
Anonymous
April 15, 2005 1:36:46 AM

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It's definitely been figured out, but I believe it's easier to use
sleeper, as Jack says, or killhdinitrd, which is the most recent hack.
April 16, 2005 5:07:01 AM

Archived from groups: alt.video.ptv.tivo (More info?)

thanks all for your comments.

it is (would be) actually faster and easier to just open the DTiVo and
move the hard drive to the Windoze PC. i'll be looking into Jerry's
dealdatabase thread (23192).

i'll report back when i do whatever i do.

nit

>On 11 Apr 2005 13:43:56 -0400, "Patrick J. LoPresti" <patl@users.sourceforge.net> wrote:

>Jerry Albro <jerry@albro.org> writes:
>
>> Even running Linux requires special byte-ordering hacks just to read the
>> disk for editing text based startup scripts. On top of that, you then
>> have the matter of the data being part of a complex database. Trying to
>> reading the data directly _increases_ the needed "geekery" quite a bit.
>
>True. Also, the files on the DTivo are encrypted. So at the very
>least, you will have to do enough hacks to disable the encryption,
>which is most of the work in the first place.
>
>But if you really want to pursue this route, see:
>
> http://www.dealdatabase.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2319...
>
>It is long and I have not read the whole thing; I did the networking
>hack instead. But if there is an answer, it will be somewhere in that
>thread.
>
>If you want to reconsider trying the networking hack, start at
>http://themurrays.homeip.net/downloads/tivo/tivo.html and go from
>there.
>
> - Pat
Anonymous
April 16, 2005 4:08:43 PM

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In article <lde1611qhg48gpfdnu6v5rpum0agsb6i2t@4ax.com>,
nitram <nospam@spam.bot> wrote:

> thanks all for your comments.
>
> it is (would be) actually faster and easier to just open the DTiVo and
> move the hard drive to the Windoze PC. i'll be looking into Jerry's
> dealdatabase thread (23192).
>
> i'll report back when i do whatever i do.
>
> nit
>
> >On 11 Apr 2005 13:43:56 -0400, "Patrick J. LoPresti"
> ><patl@users.sourceforge.net> wrote:
>
> >Jerry Albro <jerry@albro.org> writes:
> >
> >> Even running Linux requires special byte-ordering hacks just to read the
> >> disk for editing text based startup scripts. On top of that, you then
> >> have the matter of the data being part of a complex database. Trying to
> >> reading the data directly _increases_ the needed "geekery" quite a bit.
> >
> >True. Also, the files on the DTivo are encrypted. So at the very
> >least, you will have to do enough hacks to disable the encryption,
> >which is most of the work in the first place.
> >
> >But if you really want to pursue this route, see:
> >
> > http://www.dealdatabase.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2319...
> >
> >It is long and I have not read the whole thing; I did the networking
> >hack instead. But if there is an answer, it will be somewhere in that
> >thread.
> >
> >If you want to reconsider trying the networking hack, start at
> >http://themurrays.homeip.net/downloads/tivo/tivo.html and go from
> >there.
> >
> > - Pat

I dont understand referring folks to a discussion with no clear
instructions.

Instructions are at:

http://www.weethet.nl/english/tivo_dtv2_hacksleeper.php...
!