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Anonymous
May 21, 2005 4:13:29 PM

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On my Adelphia cable I get Turner Classic Movies on channel 50 (analog) and
157 (digital). When I try to record something on channel 157 it always
changes it to 50 and records it there. That wouldn't be a problem except the
sound on the analog channel is usually distorted and I end up deleting the
program without watching it.

Does anyone know how to override TiVo making this change on its own?

(Adelphia swears that there is nothing wrong with 50 yet all my TVs (w & w/o
TiVo and w & w/o digital box) and all my neighbors confirm the audio
distortion.)

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Anonymous
May 21, 2005 7:59:02 PM

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Alphageek (no_email_please@uhdelfeeyuh.net) wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:
> On my Adelphia cable I get Turner Classic Movies on channel 50 (analog) and
> 157 (digital). When I try to record something on channel 157 it always
> changes it to 50 and records it there. That wouldn't be a problem except the
> sound on the analog channel is usually distorted and I end up deleting the
> program without watching it.
>
> Does anyone know how to override TiVo making this change on its own?

Delete channel 50 from TiVo's "Channels You Receive" list.

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Anonymous
May 21, 2005 11:36:20 PM

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I would remove channel 50 from the "Channels I Receive" list. Tivo wouldn't
know it exists...


"Alphageek" <no_email_please@uhdelfeeyuh.net> wrote in message
news:EtWdnTSlxfD_FRLfRVn-iQ@adelphia.com...
> On my Adelphia cable I get Turner Classic Movies on channel 50 (analog)
> and 157 (digital). When I try to record something on channel 157 it always
> changes it to 50 and records it there. That wouldn't be a problem except
> the sound on the analog channel is usually distorted and I end up deleting
> the program without watching it.
>
> Does anyone know how to override TiVo making this change on its own?
>
> (Adelphia swears that there is nothing wrong with 50 yet all my TVs (w &
> w/o TiVo and w & w/o digital box) and all my neighbors confirm the audio
> distortion.)
>
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Anonymous
May 21, 2005 11:36:21 PM

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That did the trick. Thanks for your suggestion!

"Rob Kendall" <nomail@nomail.com> wrote in message
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>I would remove channel 50 from the "Channels I Receive" list. Tivo
>wouldn't know it exists...
>
>
> "Alphageek" <no_email_please@uhdelfeeyuh.net> wrote in message
> news:EtWdnTSlxfD_FRLfRVn-iQ@adelphia.com...
>> On my Adelphia cable I get Turner Classic Movies on channel 50 (analog)
>> and 157 (digital). When I try to record something on channel 157 it
>> always changes it to 50 and records it there. That wouldn't be a problem
>> except the sound on the analog channel is usually distorted and I end up
>> deleting the program without watching it.
>>
>> Does anyone know how to override TiVo making this change on its own?
>>
>> (Adelphia swears that there is nothing wrong with 50 yet all my TVs (w &
>> w/o TiVo and w & w/o digital box) and all my neighbors confirm the audio
>> distortion.)
>>
>
>
May 23, 2005 4:51:47 AM

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"Alphageek" wrote:

>On my Adelphia cable I get Turner Classic Movies on channel 50 (analog) and
>157 (digital). When I try to record something on channel 157 it always
>changes it to 50 and records it there.

Forgive me if this is something most here already knows.

Can someone explain why TiVo is changing to a different channel
than the one specifically chosen?
May 23, 2005 4:05:06 PM

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On Mon, 23 May 2005 00:51:47 -0400, Jason wrote:

>"Alphageek" wrote:
>
>>On my Adelphia cable I get Turner Classic Movies on channel 50 (analog) and
>>157 (digital). When I try to record something on channel 157 it always
>>changes it to 50 and records it there.
>
>Forgive me if this is something most here already knows.
>
>Can someone explain why TiVo is changing to a different channel
>than the one specifically chosen?
>

It's software is very rudimentary.

Sean
Anonymous
May 23, 2005 5:26:00 PM

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(Jason) wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:
> Forgive me if this is something most here already knows.
>
> Can someone explain why TiVo is changing to a different channel
> than the one specifically chosen?

TiVo works by channel name, not number. I would suspect that the channel
lineup for that area uses the same name for the digital and analog
versions of the channel. When there are two copies of the same channel,
TiVo always chooses the lowest numbered one.

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Anonymous
May 23, 2005 9:25:01 PM

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<Jason> wrote in message news:vun29115fal3440k8ecu6lt755q1ohard2@4ax.com...
> "Alphageek" wrote:
>
> >On my Adelphia cable I get Turner Classic Movies on channel 50 (analog) and
> >157 (digital). When I try to record something on channel 157 it always
> >changes it to 50 and records it there.
>
> Forgive me if this is something most here already knows.
>
> Can someone explain why TiVo is changing to a different channel
> than the one specifically chosen?
>
>

It is not clear from the OP whether a Season Pass or Wishlist is involved.
Season Passes are channel specific, but Wishlist recordings can occur
on any available channel. This can't be an issue with a Manual recording.

If a Wishlist is created for a program airing on two channels, the lower
channel number will always be selected for the recording.
Anonymous
May 23, 2005 10:03:20 PM

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"Jack Ak" <akjack@excite.com> wrote in message
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>
> <Jason> wrote in message
> news:vun29115fal3440k8ecu6lt755q1ohard2@4ax.com...
>> "Alphageek" wrote:
>>
>> >On my Adelphia cable I get Turner Classic Movies on channel 50 (analog)
>> >and
>> >157 (digital). When I try to record something on channel 157 it always
>> >changes it to 50 and records it there.
>>
>> Forgive me if this is something most here already knows.
>>
>> Can someone explain why TiVo is changing to a different channel
>> than the one specifically chosen?
>>
>>
>
> It is not clear from the OP whether a Season Pass or Wishlist is involved.
> Season Passes are channel specific, but Wishlist recordings can occur
> on any available channel. This can't be an issue with a Manual recording.
>
> If a Wishlist is created for a program airing on two channels, the lower
> channel number will always be selected for the recording.
>
No wish list, no season pass. Programmed via Record by Time or Channel, and
I selected channel 157. TiVo made the decision on its own to record from
channel 50.

It is a moot point now; I deleted 50 from 'Channels I Receive' and it always
records from 157 like it is told. These damn computers.
Anonymous
May 23, 2005 11:35:29 PM

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In article <Nloke.672$rY6.197@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>, Jack Ak wrote:
>
><Jason> wrote in message news:vun29115fal3440k8ecu6lt755q1ohard2@4ax.com...
>> "Alphageek" wrote:
>>
>> >On my Adelphia cable I get Turner Classic Movies on channel 50 (analog) and
>> >157 (digital). When I try to record something on channel 157 it always
>> >changes it to 50 and records it there.
>>
>> Forgive me if this is something most here already knows.
>>
>> Can someone explain why TiVo is changing to a different channel
>> than the one specifically chosen?
>>
>>
>
> It is not clear from the OP whether a Season Pass or Wishlist is involved.
> Season Passes are channel specific, but Wishlist recordings can occur
> on any available channel. This can't be an issue with a Manual recording.
>
> If a Wishlist is created for a program airing on two channels, the lower
> channel number will always be selected for the recording.

Aren't Season Passes associated with stations, not channels?. Eg,
when your station changes channels when the cable company moves things
around, the SP will move as well.

Thus if you have two channels associated with a single station, the
SP applies to both of them, and the lower numbered one is recorded.
May 24, 2005 7:10:59 AM

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"Alphageek" <no_email_please@uhdelfeeyuh.net> wrote in message
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>>
> No wish list, no season pass. Programmed via Record by Time or Channel,
> and I selected channel 157. TiVo made the decision on its own to record
> from channel 50.

That's because, as others have pointed out, the TiVo does not record by
channel number, but by channel designation. There is no recordable "ch 157"
internally to a TiVo. It is always a designation (i.e. WABC). Then, per
it's programming, starting at the ch 1, it hunts upward till it hits "WABC"
and records.

> It is a moot point now; I deleted 50 from 'Channels I Receive' and it
> always records from 157 like it is told. These damn computers.

Yup, that's how you solved it.
May 24, 2005 4:52:03 PM

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On Tue, 24 May 2005 03:10:59 GMT, "Seth"
<seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:

>"Alphageek" <no_email_please@uhdelfeeyuh.net> wrote in message
>news:hu2dnUDVINPD4A_fRVn-2w@adelphia.com...
>>>
>> No wish list, no season pass. Programmed via Record by Time or Channel,
>> and I selected channel 157. TiVo made the decision on its own to record
>> from channel 50.
>
>That's because, as others have pointed out, the TiVo does not record by
>channel number, but by channel designation. There is no recordable "ch 157"
>internally to a TiVo. It is always a designation (i.e. WABC). Then, per
>it's programming, starting at the ch 1, it hunts upward till it hits "WABC"
>and records.
>
>> It is a moot point now; I deleted 50 from 'Channels I Receive' and it
>> always records from 157 like it is told. These damn computers.
>
>Yup, that's how you solved it.

You should head to tivo support, under 'channels missing or
incorrect in live guide' there's a form that can handle incorrect
station lettering. It's called 'report a lineup issue' and the
link is right under the screenshot. Tivo really chases these
issues down and hammers them out.
My experience with it: They called me for more info when I forgot
to include something, and they called me to let me know when it
was fixed. It may take a couple weeks, but it will get done.
May 24, 2005 9:57:25 PM

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<Jason> wrote in message news:avl6915cv6hob77vjmi98mke67h3b2rm4q@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 24 May 2005 03:10:59 GMT, "Seth"
> <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>"Alphageek" <no_email_please@uhdelfeeyuh.net> wrote in message
>>news:hu2dnUDVINPD4A_fRVn-2w@adelphia.com...
>>>>
>>> No wish list, no season pass. Programmed via Record by Time or Channel,
>>> and I selected channel 157. TiVo made the decision on its own to record
>>> from channel 50.
>>
>>That's because, as others have pointed out, the TiVo does not record by
>>channel number, but by channel designation. There is no recordable "ch
>>157"
>>internally to a TiVo. It is always a designation (i.e. WABC). Then, per
>>it's programming, starting at the ch 1, it hunts upward till it hits
>>"WABC"
>>and records.
>>
>>> It is a moot point now; I deleted 50 from 'Channels I Receive' and it
>>> always records from 157 like it is told. These damn computers.
>>
>>Yup, that's how you solved it.
>
> You should head to tivo support, under 'channels missing or
> incorrect in live guide' there's a form that can handle incorrect
> station lettering. It's called 'report a lineup issue' and the
> link is right under the screenshot. Tivo really chases these
> issues down and hammers them out.

Good advice for mis-named channels, but not the issue here. Both of the
channel numbers are correct for the O.P., he just preferrs the higher number
one (digital) over the lower one (analog) for quality reasons.

> My experience with it: They called me for more info when I forgot
> to include something, and they called me to let me know when it
> was fixed. It may take a couple weeks, but it will get done.
May 31, 2005 3:32:09 AM

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On Mon, 30 May 2005 01:27:40 GMT, Seth wrote:

><Jason> wrote in message news:18t791lvqp77vn89cc20f52truon1dv0hq@4ax.com...
>> They *are* mis-named. The channels are demonstrably different,
>> one being analog and undesirable quality with bad audio, the
>> other being the desired quality and digital. This is the exact
>> same reason that high def channels are named differently than
>> their standard version, such as MAX and MAXHD, HBO and HBOHD and
>> even HBOLAT (spanish broadcast, same program schedule, same
>> quality as standard HBO).
>
>Are you sure that's the case for the O.P.? I was just in Florida this
>weekend at my mom's house, and on her cable system the duplicate channels
>(where there is a digital and analog version) have the SAME name. That
>doesn't make them mis-named, Discovery is still Discovery regardless of it
>being analog or digital.

But the broadcast quality is cause enough for a difference in the
channel name.

Wait a minute, on 5/23/2005 you posted:
>That's because, as others have pointed out, the TiVo does not record by
>channel number, but by channel designation. There is no recordable "ch 157"
>internally to a TiVo. It is always a designation (i.e. WABC). Then, per
>it's programming, starting at the ch 1, it hunts upward till it hits "WABC"
>and records.

And you think that those 2 channels should have the same
designation/name/call letters/whatever you want to call it?
Even though the OP could tell the difference between them from
the quality level?

Are you trying to troll me?

Explain why those 2 channels should not have a different set of
letters, please. I'd like to know why an analog, a digital, and a
high def broadcast of HBO should look like the exact same channel
to TiVo.

Oh, and it starts at channel 0 and searches upward. Yes, my S2
hits channel 0 - information "To Be Announced" - even though my
cable box ignores the channel request.
May 31, 2005 4:19:05 AM

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<Jason> wrote in message news:r3hn91l7lahgdh8rdd25l8n3i0fja0h2rg@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 30 May 2005 01:27:40 GMT, Seth wrote:
>
>><Jason> wrote in message
>>news:18t791lvqp77vn89cc20f52truon1dv0hq@4ax.com...
>>> They *are* mis-named. The channels are demonstrably different,
>>> one being analog and undesirable quality with bad audio, the
>>> other being the desired quality and digital. This is the exact
>>> same reason that high def channels are named differently than
>>> their standard version, such as MAX and MAXHD, HBO and HBOHD and
>>> even HBOLAT (spanish broadcast, same program schedule, same
>>> quality as standard HBO).
>>
>>Are you sure that's the case for the O.P.? I was just in Florida this
>>weekend at my mom's house, and on her cable system the duplicate channels
>>(where there is a digital and analog version) have the SAME name. That
>>doesn't make them mis-named, Discovery is still Discovery regardless of it
>>being analog or digital.
>
> But the broadcast quality is cause enough for a difference in the
> channel name.

I'm not disputing that possibility. Just that's it's not TiVo's place to
make that distiction. That's the cable line-up as it is presented by the
cable company. In some places the digital version is worse that the analog
version. Which one should be recorded then?

TiVo can only go by the information provided to them by the cable companies
(in regard to channel line-up) and the Tribune Media (in regards to the
schedule). TiVo didn't misname any channels when it titled Digital HBO and
Analog HBO as "HBO". They have no way of knowing which is preferred in
market "A" and which in market "B".

> Wait a minute, on 5/23/2005 you posted:
>>That's because, as others have pointed out, the TiVo does not record by
>>channel number, but by channel designation. There is no recordable "ch
>>157"
>>internally to a TiVo. It is always a designation (i.e. WABC). Then, per
>>it's programming, starting at the ch 1, it hunts upward till it hits
>>"WABC"
>>and records.

Yup, I said that.

> And you think that those 2 channels should have the same
> designation/name/call letters/whatever you want to call it?
> Even though the OP could tell the difference between them from
> the quality level?

If the cable company says they have the same call letters, then yes, they
have the same call letter as far as TiVo is concerned.

> Are you trying to troll me?

If you say so...

> Explain why those 2 channels should not have a different set of
> letters, please. I'd like to know why an analog, a digital, and a
> high def broadcast of HBO should look like the exact same channel
> to TiVo.

Cause the cable company who provides the line-up says so. Take it up with
the cable company. In the meantime, if you find a channel that comes in 2x,
with varying degrees of wuality, go ahead and mark the one of lesser quality
as "not receivable" in the "Channels I receive" list. I lie to my TiVo
about a number of channels that I do receive but have them marked as not
received because for one reason or another, they're reception is not
desireable.

> Oh, and it starts at channel 0 and searches upward. Yes, my S2
> hits channel 0 - information "To Be Announced" - even though my
> cable box ignores the channel request.

oooh, you got me. I was off by 1 number value.

But why do you think TiVo thinks there is a channel "0". They made it up?
Or that's the line-up as provided by your cable company?
Anonymous
May 31, 2005 4:19:06 AM

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(Jason) wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:
> Explain why those 2 channels should not have a different set of
> letters, please. I'd like to know why an analog, a digital, and a
> high def broadcast of HBO should look like the exact same channel
> to TiVo.

The cable analog and cable digital have the same name...the HD version is
different to TiVo.

The reason the analog and digital have identical names is that they *are*
identical as far as programming is concerned...the only difference is that
the cable company digitizes one.

If all you care about is recording the SD programming, it shouldn't matter
which channel TiVo chooses. If you perceive a difference for some reason,
then remove the channel from "Channels I Receiver" that you don't want to
record from.

The HD channel has a different name because some programs are different at
the guide data level: they have the HDTV flag.

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