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June 6, 2005 2:16:30 PM

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Now that my Hughs DVR40 has been upgraded to the newer 6.2 OS I'd like to
put in a bigger drive and I have a few questions.

Question 1:
Can I use the info I had on upgrading the drive for the 3.xx OS or will I
need to find something newer?

Question 2:
If the drive is fairly full and I use a relatively fast PC to do the copying
what kind of time am I looking at, 1, 2, 4 plus hours??

Question 3:
What recomendations are out there for hard drive brands/models??

Question 4(unrelated to drive upgrade):
How difficult is it to 'hack' the unit to allow 'Tivo to go' to run on it?
I've been thinking about getting another Tivo for the downstairs system but
to really justify it I'd have to be able to transfer shows back and forth
between the two units.

Anyone care to comment.

Thanks

Bill
Anonymous
June 6, 2005 9:12:16 PM

Archived from groups: alt.video.ptv.tivo (More info?)

On Mon, 06 Jun 2005 10:16:30 -0400, Bill wrote:

> Now that my Hughs DVR40 has been upgraded to the newer 6.2 OS I'd like to
> put in a bigger drive and I have a few questions.
>
> Question 1:
> Can I use the info I had on upgrading the drive for the 3.xx OS or will I
> need to find something newer?


The steps are basically the same. You need to make sure that the
MFStools stuff you have is LBA-48 compatible.

> Question 2:
> If the drive is fairly full and I use a relatively fast PC to do the copying
> what kind of time am I looking at, 1, 2, 4 plus hours??

It's not really the speed of the PC, but the I/O speed. You will want to
enable DMA, 32bit I/Os and put the source and destination drives on
different channels. It's still going to take a while.... 4 hours at least.


> Question 3:
> What recomendations are out there for hard drive brands/models??

Some new drives only have 12 month warranty... seems a bit short to
me. Some hitachi(?) 120GB drives have 2 platters. Makes them
quieter and faster than other higher platter drives. Pretty much
any 5400 RPM drive will work. 7200RPM drives are supposed to be
hotter. 10K drives would be too loud and too hot and be over kill.


> Question 4(unrelated to drive upgrade):
> How difficult is it to 'hack' the unit to allow 'Tivo to go' to run on it?
> I've been thinking about getting another Tivo for the downstairs system but
> to really justify it I'd have to be able to transfer shows back and forth
> between the two units.

Both of my 6.2 DTV Tivos have the HMO/MRV hack enabled. I'm not 100% sure
that's the same as 'Tivo to go' or not. I can look at the 'now showing'
list of my 'other' tivo and start watching a show I recorded there. It's
pretty slick. They also play MP3s and show photos, but I don't think I'll
use those features much.

In order to enable this, you have to do something like
pull the drive ( you'd do this to copy to a bigger drive anyway... )
replace the existing kernel with a new one using the dd command
configure the networking
run two scripts to enable the HMO/MRV stuff
put the drive back in the tivo
cross your fingers and toes and power it on.
you'll need some better instructions than this.. this is just the
general steps you'd need. You can use the same MFStools ( with lba-48
support ) boot cd to do the drive copy/upgrade and do the rest of the
hack.

See the TiVo Underground forum on http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/
for one step-by-step guide.

jack


> Anyone care to comment.
>
> Thanks
>
> Bill
--
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see http://www.jacksnodgrass.com for my contact info.

jack - Grapevine/Richardson
June 6, 2005 9:12:17 PM

Archived from groups: alt.video.ptv.tivo (More info?)

On my first attempt, I didn't buy the quitter drives.
The ticking from my Entertainment system drove me nuts.
I now have 2 140GB Maxtor AV drives. Very quiet.

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Steven

May you have the peace and freedom that come from abandoning all hope of
having a better past.
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> On Mon, 06 Jun 2005 10:16:30 -0400, Bill wrote:
>
>> Now that my Hughs DVR40 has been upgraded to the newer 6.2 OS I'd like to
>> put in a bigger drive and I have a few questions.
>>
>> Question 1:
>> Can I use the info I had on upgrading the drive for the 3.xx OS or will I
>> need to find something newer?
>
>
> The steps are basically the same. You need to make sure that the
> MFStools stuff you have is LBA-48 compatible.
>
>> Question 2:
>> If the drive is fairly full and I use a relatively fast PC to do the
>> copying
>> what kind of time am I looking at, 1, 2, 4 plus hours??
>
> It's not really the speed of the PC, but the I/O speed. You will want to
> enable DMA, 32bit I/Os and put the source and destination drives on
> different channels. It's still going to take a while.... 4 hours at least.
>
>
>> Question 3:
>> What recomendations are out there for hard drive brands/models??
>
> Some new drives only have 12 month warranty... seems a bit short to
> me. Some hitachi(?) 120GB drives have 2 platters. Makes them
> quieter and faster than other higher platter drives. Pretty much
> any 5400 RPM drive will work. 7200RPM drives are supposed to be
> hotter. 10K drives would be too loud and too hot and be over kill.
>
>
>> Question 4(unrelated to drive upgrade):
>> How difficult is it to 'hack' the unit to allow 'Tivo to go' to run on
>> it?
>> I've been thinking about getting another Tivo for the downstairs system
>> but
>> to really justify it I'd have to be able to transfer shows back and forth
>> between the two units.
>
> Both of my 6.2 DTV Tivos have the HMO/MRV hack enabled. I'm not 100% sure
> that's the same as 'Tivo to go' or not. I can look at the 'now showing'
> list of my 'other' tivo and start watching a show I recorded there. It's
> pretty slick. They also play MP3s and show photos, but I don't think I'll
> use those features much.
>
> In order to enable this, you have to do something like
> pull the drive ( you'd do this to copy to a bigger drive anyway... )
> replace the existing kernel with a new one using the dd command
> configure the networking
> run two scripts to enable the HMO/MRV stuff
> put the drive back in the tivo
> cross your fingers and toes and power it on.
> you'll need some better instructions than this.. this is just the
> general steps you'd need. You can use the same MFStools ( with lba-48
> support ) boot cd to do the drive copy/upgrade and do the rest of the
> hack.
>
> See the TiVo Underground forum on http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/
> for one step-by-step guide.
>
> jack
>
>
>> Anyone care to comment.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Bill
> --
> D.A.M. - Mothers Against Dyslexia
>
> see http://www.jacksnodgrass.com for my contact info.
>
> jack - Grapevine/Richardson
>
>
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