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<A HREF="http://www.wdc.com/products/products.asp?DriveID=32" target="_new">Here's</A> where to find it (the 80GB model). The 100GB & 120GB models are easy to find from there.

For those of you who don't know WTF I'm talking about (that must include me, LoL!), it's the Western Digital Caviar JB (or BB special edition) with 8MB of cache.

I figure there's going to be a few threads about it, so why not keep the Qs & As together.

Two Qs from me:

Any word of smaller capacities yet to come?

Anyone know of the price (£s or $s) of the 80GB yet?

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One vendor is selling the 80GB on pricewatch for $148. Search for 800JB.

<A HREF="http://www.resellerratings.com/seller_info.pl?seller_id=1964" target="_new">Mark One Computers</A>

Sorry, no international shipping :(

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camieabz

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Cheers DH!

I notice the 1200JB best price is $166 vs Mark One's $228.

The cheapest option is 73% of Mark One's price. Stands to reason, that a decent price would be $109 for the 800JB.

The 1200JB here is £185. So the British price for the 800JB would be around £122, which would be a damn good price here for a drive like that.

I'll bet it doesn't work out like that. :smile:

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i doubt they would release anything smaller than the 800JB... bet thats the smallest range they make, the rest being obselete.

good idea to spruce up sales though... and add a bit more grunt into the HDD arena.

hopefully it will spur other companies into action.

a 120GXP with 8mb cache is something i really wanna see.

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Hmmm... sory, I cant say that I have seen any smaller drives or any really good prices. But this brings up some questions: At http://www.wdc.com/products/products.asp?DriveID=32 By "mode 5 ATA" they mean ATA 100 right? If you took 2 identical drives except for the cache size, would it still combine the 2 caches? so you would have like 10mb of cache of does it do it differently?

I will keep searching for prices.

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Interesting point on the cache. I think I'll let others find out. :smile:

ATA 5 is UDMA 100.
ATA 6 is UDMA 133. FYI

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Just the JB's with a the 100 GB one i have now (it only has a 2 mb cache.

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That's because they "invented" ATA133 and are charging royalties to any HDD manus who want to implement it.

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They'ed better invent ATA166 before someone else does, or pay for it, bigtime. Has it always been the case that the manufacturers charge each other for the use of their technologies? I know money is money, but you would think share and share alike, and you'll all benefit.

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One would think, but look at Rambus, Intel and Microsoft - what can I say? ATA166 will probably never exist. Since the 32bit 33MHz PCI bus has a maximum bandwidth of 133MB/s, ATA133 can already max it out as the implemented PCI bandwidth maximum is really ~100-110MB/s. 64bit and/or 66MHz PCI can double or quadruple this bandwidth, but these are usually found only in server and recent highend workstation (dual-processor) systems. In addition, a single HDD does not actually have the capability of using more than even ATA66 speeds for large transfers - only burst speeds even approach ATA100 speeds. The only real benefit to ATA133 is the fact that ATA100 has a 32bit addressing system and is therefore limited to 128GB (base2 - as reported by the OS) or 137GB (base10 - as used by the HD manus). ATA133 uses a 42bit system that greatly increases the potential capacity for the HDD. Serial ATA133 is pretty near (1 year?), so I don't think we'll be seeing any new parallel ATAxxx standards.

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What is this "serial ATA" you speek of? It intrigues me so!

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serial ata is the next step.

thin fexible cables half an inch wide.
cable lengths up to a meter
multiple drives on one cable (like scsi)
first serial ata spec is set to be 150mb/sec, increasing to beyond 300.

we will get it in a year or so.


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Do you guys know where I can find some benchmarks of different HDD in various raid configurations? I want to compare some of the WD JB's to Maxtors HDD's and such.

Thanks


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Just a quick update:

800JBs now available in the U.K. from <A HREF="http://www.dabs.com/products/prod-info3-info.asp?&m=y&quicklinx=211K" target="_new">Dabs.com</A> at the decent price of £110.45 inc VAT & shipping.

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<A HREF="http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardware/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=47256#47256" target="_new">http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardware/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=47256#47256</A>

There are many photos around the Net showing the prototype Serial ATA implementations.

<A HREF="http://watch.impress.co.jp/pc/docs/2002/0514/3ware_01.jpg" target="_new">http://watch.impress.co.jp/pc/docs/2002/0514/3ware_01.jpg</A>

<A HREF="http://watch.impress.co.jp/pc/docs/2002/0514/3ware_02.jpg" target="_new">http://watch.impress.co.jp/pc/docs/2002/0514/3ware_02.jpg</A>

<A HREF="http://watch.impress.co.jp/pc/docs/2002/0514/3ware_03.jpg" target="_new">http://watch.impress.co.jp/pc/docs/2002/0514/3ware_03.jpg</A>

<A HREF="http://watch.impress.co.jp/pc/docs/2002/0514/3ware_04.jpg" target="_new">http://watch.impress.co.jp/pc/docs/2002/0514/3ware_04.jpg</A>

<A HREF="http://watch.impress.co.jp/pc/docs/2002/0514/3ware_05.jpg" target="_new">http://watch.impress.co.jp/pc/docs/2002/0514/3ware_05.jpg</A>

<A HREF="http://watch.impress.co.jp/pc/docs/2002/0514/3ware_06.jpg" target="_new">http://watch.impress.co.jp/pc/docs/2002/0514/3ware_06.jpg</A>

<A HREF="http://watch.impress.co.jp/pc/docs/2002/0514/3ware_10.jpg" target="_new">http://watch.impress.co.jp/pc/docs/2002/0514/3ware_10.jpg</A>

<A HREF="http://watch.impress.co.jp/pc/docs/2002/0514/3ware_11.jpg" target="_new">http://watch.impress.co.jp/pc/docs/2002/0514/3ware_11.jpg</A>

Hm. There are a lot more.

An old link from PC Watch:

<A HREF="http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/pc/docs/2002/0307/hot190.htm" target="_new">http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/pc/docs/2002/0307/hot190.htm</A>



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In South Korea,

Here it is for 199,000 Won or about 150 US Dollars, including the usual 10 percent VAT, shipping fee 3,000 Won or 2.3 USD.

<A HREF="http://shop.kbench.com/0909/?no=1278" target="_new">http://shop.kbench.com/0909/?no=1278</A>

Hm. WD 1200JB price is under 200 USD including shipping according to PriceWatch.com.

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