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Hello audiophiles and techies,

I have designed this small line-amp to roughly boost the line level
from .5V to 5 Volts.

VIEW SCHEMATIC HERE http://www.planetrca.com/amp/audio-boost.jpg

It actually sounds great until I turn on the headlights of the car....
Then I get a nice hum and what sounds like a WAWA pedal in the
background. They are not HID headlights, so no switching power supply
for the head lights. I also notice that the CD mechanism from a
changer is coupled into the line-amp as well... this leads me to
believe that it's being coupled through the power supply. To test
this theory, I bypassed the filtering inductor and to no surprise the
noise got VERY loud. The noise is the same whether or not there is
something plugged into the input. I could probably make the power
filtering bigger... but something tells me that my design is way to
sensitive to power noise.

I am wondering where I went wrong in my design. Anyone have any ideas?

I don't know enough about impedance matching but might that be where
the problem lies? If it is, I don't want to add transformers to the
design... I need it to be small.

Thank you,
Audiozombie

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lateralgroup@gmail.com wrote:

>Hello audiophiles and techies,
>
>I have designed this small line-amp to roughly boost the line level
>from .5V to 5 Volts.
>
>VIEW SCHEMATIC HERE http://www.planetrca.com/amp/audio-boost.jpg
>
>It actually sounds great until I turn on the headlights of the car....
>Then I get a nice hum and what sounds like a WAWA pedal in the
>background. They are not HID headlights, so no switching power supply
>for the head lights. I also notice that the CD mechanism from a
>changer is coupled into the line-amp as well... this leads me to
>believe that it's being coupled through the power supply. To test
>this theory, I bypassed the filtering inductor and to no surprise the
>noise got VERY loud. The noise is the same whether or not there is
>something plugged into the input. I could probably make the power
>filtering bigger... but something tells me that my design is way to
>sensitive to power noise.

Try making C2 20 times bigger, that is, 4700 uF. If the hum continues,
try using a LM7809 voltage regulator IC between C2 and the rest of the
circuit. The circuit will be working then at a very clean 9V, instead
of a noisy 12V.
---
Ing. Remberto Gomez-Meda <gomerem@hotmail.com>
http://ingemeda.tripod.com/
INGE - Ingenieria Electronica.
Puerto Vallarta, Jalisco, Mexico.

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El Meda wrote:
> lateralgroup@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
>>Hello audiophiles and techies,
>>
>>I have designed this small line-amp to roughly boost the line level
>
>>from .5V to 5 Volts.
>
>>VIEW SCHEMATIC HERE http://www.planetrca.com/amp/audio-boost.jpg
>>
>>It actually sounds great until I turn on the headlights of the car....
>>Then I get a nice hum and what sounds like a WAWA pedal in the
>>background. They are not HID headlights, so no switching power supply
>>for the head lights. I also notice that the CD mechanism from a
>>changer is coupled into the line-amp as well... this leads me to
>>believe that it's being coupled through the power supply. To test
>>this theory, I bypassed the filtering inductor and to no surprise the
>>noise got VERY loud. The noise is the same whether or not there is
>>something plugged into the input. I could probably make the power
>>filtering bigger... but something tells me that my design is way to
>>sensitive to power noise.
>
>
> Try making C2 20 times bigger, that is, 4700 uF. If the hum continues,
> try using a LM7809 voltage regulator IC between C2 and the rest of the
> circuit. The circuit will be working then at a very clean 9V, instead
> of a noisy 12V.

Replace R11 with a 6v zener.
Turn C4 and C12 the right way round.

--
Eiron.

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I had a similar problem when adding an amplifier to the stock radio.
Everything was full of noise from the dashboard light dimmer,turning
the knob showed where the "wah-wah" control was.I filtered the H3ll out
of the whole system,and that damn dimmer noise would never go away...
(I did get rid of the bit of alternator whine.)
Finally gave up,didn't want to dismantle the dashboard to pull out the
dimmer.(wasn't my car.)

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