MCITP?
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gclark80
July 14, 2011 1:05:17 PM
Hi,
I wasn't sure which section to ask this, so I decided to go for UK and Ireland discussions - can't go wrong here?
I've been thinking of getting an MCITP certification. I live in London, and I was wondering if anyone had any knowledge of any good training centres? I've been looking at Firebrand, who although are offering a good deal, I just wanted to know all the options I had, so that I can make an informed decision.
THANKS!
-Gary
I wasn't sure which section to ask this, so I decided to go for UK and Ireland discussions - can't go wrong here?
I've been thinking of getting an MCITP certification. I live in London, and I was wondering if anyone had any knowledge of any good training centres? I've been looking at Firebrand, who although are offering a good deal, I just wanted to know all the options I had, so that I can make an informed decision.
THANKS!
-Gary
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gclark80
July 25, 2011 9:01:42 AM
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nephilim241
July 25, 2011 9:20:49 PM
Well, I too live in London and got some MS qualifications in order to open some doors in the IT industry.. still needed some blind luck etc (its catch 22 and that first job is the most elusive) but yeh they were a great help. Costly, but helpful. I went to UKIT Training, down in Tolworth. I have the two precursors to the cert you linked there (MCSA on Server 2000, Server 2003) and I am thinking of updating.. might have a look at Firebrand
audiovoodoo
July 26, 2011 1:14:02 PM
I'll add to the mix a little. Anybody had any experience with these guys:
http://www.careerjobsuk.com/
They are offering web based training and certification. I've got a web meeting with them a little later today but am not sure of the reputation they have. I'm a little sceptical but will listen to what they have to say.
My problem is that despite a good few years in the industry my last qualification was my degree which whilst a good basis does not directly show or prove my competency. With rates as low as they are at the moment though I'm wondering how if I'll see a return on investment or if I'm better accepting something on a little less money and proving what I can do in the workplace. My last employer would offer training for staff in every field other than IT, for some reason they overlooked us as we were not the core business, despite being totally dependent on us for that to happen.
http://www.careerjobsuk.com/
They are offering web based training and certification. I've got a web meeting with them a little later today but am not sure of the reputation they have. I'm a little sceptical but will listen to what they have to say.
My problem is that despite a good few years in the industry my last qualification was my degree which whilst a good basis does not directly show or prove my competency. With rates as low as they are at the moment though I'm wondering how if I'll see a return on investment or if I'm better accepting something on a little less money and proving what I can do in the workplace. My last employer would offer training for staff in every field other than IT, for some reason they overlooked us as we were not the core business, despite being totally dependent on us for that to happen.
audiovoodoo said:
My last employer would offer training for staff in every field other than IT, for some reason they overlooked us as we were not the core business, despite being totally dependent on us for that to happen.Oh yes - the legendary short-sightedness of the managerial classes. I believe it's that coupled with the feduciary duty to pass as much money as possible back to the shareholders that screws British business up every time. We were better off when we had smaller, privately or family owned businesses which could take the longer view than the date of the next shareholders report. The Germans still have that model in the majority - fancy an economy like theirs?
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audiovoodoo
July 30, 2011 2:01:33 PM
Fortunately I did a bit of research on Career Jobs UK. I won't say anything as my only experience is with their somewhat dubious advertising, but certainly there are others that report a less then positive experience. As such I've told them where to go. I'd suggest others do some reading before signing up.
As for the shareholder situation v. investment. It's interesting that my two worst experiences of this are both with US based companies. Working for one a few years ago we didn't quite hit the projected profit (although still showing a good year on year growth) so they sacked 13% of the global workforce just before they announced the results. As such the market metric of profit/employees still got their magic ratio and the shareholders got that nice cash.
In my more recent experience it's just been lack of investment. A new product (not bad, just in need of refinement) forced them to class all existing products as legacy. As such no new investment in the existing product set. Now this would not be a problem but 60% of the business ran on the old product and it was still being sold to new clients. I had to fight to get them to officially support 64Bit OS (was blocked by installation script as non tested) then explain that expecting a 15 year old database engine to take full advantage of multi core (single threaded, will not scale) was somewhat optimistic.
My answer to the shareholder issue is that no stock should be held for less than 18 months. It would instantly force a longer view in the markets, remove a high degree of speculation and increase market stability.
As for the shareholder situation v. investment. It's interesting that my two worst experiences of this are both with US based companies. Working for one a few years ago we didn't quite hit the projected profit (although still showing a good year on year growth) so they sacked 13% of the global workforce just before they announced the results. As such the market metric of profit/employees still got their magic ratio and the shareholders got that nice cash.
In my more recent experience it's just been lack of investment. A new product (not bad, just in need of refinement) forced them to class all existing products as legacy. As such no new investment in the existing product set. Now this would not be a problem but 60% of the business ran on the old product and it was still being sold to new clients. I had to fight to get them to officially support 64Bit OS (was blocked by installation script as non tested) then explain that expecting a 15 year old database engine to take full advantage of multi core (single threaded, will not scale) was somewhat optimistic.
My answer to the shareholder issue is that no stock should be held for less than 18 months. It would instantly force a longer view in the markets, remove a high degree of speculation and increase market stability.
Your first experience shows a situation which is nothing short of scandalous. It's possible that company didn't even have to report how it had achieved its falsified results. Had it done so, some shareholders with a better moral approach to life might have stood up to be counted.
I agree things could improve if stocks were held for the longer term but I also believe they should be spread wider to encompass individuals instead of being held by other large companies. However, taking that so-called feduciary duty out of Statute would definitely improve matters.
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