recording streaming audio

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It's probably trying to install spyware. Use something else, there
are other applications out there that do this, like Totalrecorder.

Al

On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 01:28:28 -0300, Duran <nobody@nowhere.invalid>
wrote:

>Hi,
>I was taking a look at some app to do this and found "WM Recorder" at:
>www.wmrecorder.com
>
>Does anybody here have experience with this program? It is trying to
>make and outbound connection to 192.192.192.192 using port 7777, I
>have no idea why. That IP has nothing to do with the sites I navigated
>and port 7777 is not associated with any media stream that I know of.
>I would suspect a trojan but I downloaded it from the creator´s site
>and usually trojans are inbound connections (listening) not outbound.
>
>I became even more suspicious after a couple hours using it and my
>Firewall console disapeared from the taskbar and Norton anti-virus
>became disabled. Reboot restored everything to normal and further
>scans revealed nothing.
>
>If I prevent connections to 192.192.192.192:7777 it will not work. It
>displays a message saying network adapter did not respond.
>
>thanks for your thoughts

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Does everyone responding get the crossposting virus too?

Chris Hornbeck

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Why, isn't this an audio subject?

Al

On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 04:43:27 GMT, Chris Hornbeck
<chrishornbeckremovethis@att.net> wrote:

>Does everyone responding get the crossposting virus too?
>
>Chris Hornbeck

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Take a look at the GPL'd Audacity (http://audacity.sourceforge.net)

On 3/23/2005 10:42 PM, play on wrote:
> It's probably trying to install spyware. Use something else, there
> are other applications out there that do this, like Totalrecorder.
>
> Al
>
> On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 01:28:28 -0300, Duran <nobody@nowhere.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>
>>Hi,
>>I was taking a look at some app to do this and found "WM Recorder" at:
>>www.wmrecorder.com
>>
>>Does anybody here have experience with this program? It is trying to
>>make and outbound connection to 192.192.192.192 using port 7777, I
>>have no idea why. That IP has nothing to do with the sites I navigated
>>and port 7777 is not associated with any media stream that I know of.
>>I would suspect a trojan but I downloaded it from the creator´s site
>>and usually trojans are inbound connections (listening) not outbound.
>>
>>I became even more suspicious after a couple hours using it and my
>>Firewall console disapeared from the taskbar and Norton anti-virus
>>became disabled. Reboot restored everything to normal and further
>>scans revealed nothing.
>>
>>If I prevent connections to 192.192.192.192:7777 it will not work. It
>>displays a message saying network adapter did not respond.
>>
>>thanks for your thoughts
>
>

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Duran wrote:
> Hi,
> I was taking a look at some app to do this and found "WM Recorder" at:
> www.wmrecorder.com
>
> Does anybody here have experience with this program? It is trying to
> make and outbound connection to 192.192.192.192 using port 7777, I
> have no idea why. That IP has nothing to do with the sites I navigated
> and port 7777 is not associated with any media stream that I know of.
> I would suspect a trojan but I downloaded it from the creator´s site
> and usually trojans are inbound connections (listening) not outbound.
>
> I became even more suspicious after a couple hours using it and my
> Firewall console disapeared from the taskbar and Norton anti-virus
> became disabled. Reboot restored everything to normal and further
> scans revealed nothing.
>
> If I prevent connections to 192.192.192.192:7777 it will not work. It
> displays a message saying network adapter did not respond.
>
> thanks for your thoughts
What kind of soundcard do you have? Soundblasters and the Santa Cruz
usually have the ability to record streaming broadcasts built in. All
you need is the DAW recording program, and you can still use the very
basic built in Windows recorder or recording software that came with the
soundcard.

CD

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>On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 01:28:28 -0300, Duran <nobody@nowhere.invalid> wrote:

>Hi,
>I was taking a look at some app to do this and found "WM Recorder" at:
>www.wmrecorder.com
>
>Does anybody here have experience with this program? It is trying to
>make and outbound connection to 192.192.192.192 using port 7777, I
>have no idea why. That IP has nothing to do with the sites I navigated
>and port 7777 is not associated with any media stream that I know of.
>I would suspect a trojan but I downloaded it from the creator´s site
>and usually trojans are inbound connections (listening) not outbound.
>
>I became even more suspicious after a couple hours using it and my
>Firewall console disapeared from the taskbar and Norton anti-virus
>became disabled. Reboot restored everything to normal and further
>scans revealed nothing.
>
>If I prevent connections to 192.192.192.192:7777 it will not work. It
>displays a message saying network adapter did not respond.
>
>thanks for your thoughts
>
All IPSec client traffic is tunneled through the gateway by default.
Split tunneling allows you to configure specific network routes that are
downloaded to the client. Only these network routes are then tunneled;
any other traffic goes to the local PC interface. The gateway takes
precautions against violators potentially hacking tunneled information
when the gateway is operating in split tunneling mode. The primary
precaution is to drop packets that do not have the IP address that is
assigned to the tunnel connection as its source address. For example, if
you have a PPP dial-up connection to the Internet with an IP address of
192.168.21.3, and then you set up a tunneled connection to a gateway and
you are assigned a tunnel IP address of 192.192.192.192, then any
packets that attempt to pass through the tunnel connection with a source
IP address of 192.168.21.3 (or any address other than 192.192.192.192)
are dropped.

Port number: 7777
Common name(s): cbt tini
Service description(s): cbt Tini Trojan

http://www.seifried.org/security/quick-reference/window...

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dxyzc@nospam.com wrote in news:B%r0e.13251$gx3.4898@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com:
> Take a look at the GPL'd Audacity (http://audacity.sourceforge.net)
[snip]


That looks like an audio editor, not a stream saver.

(Followup set to: alt.comp.freeware)

Karen
http://scootgirl.com/

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play on <playonAT@comcast.net> wrote in
news:m8h4419021l52a2ja87j4v6qgfluubor5k@4ax.com:

> On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 01:28:28 -0300, Duran <nobody@nowhere.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>>I was taking a look at some app to do this and found "WM Recorder" at:
>>www.wmrecorder.com
>>
>>Does anybody here have experience with this program? It is trying to
>>make and outbound connection to 192.192.192.192 using port 7777, I
>>have no idea why. That IP has nothing to do with the sites I navigated
>>and port 7777 is not associated with any media stream that I know of.
>>I would suspect a trojan but I downloaded it from the creator´s site
>>and usually trojans are inbound connections (listening) not outbound.
>>
>>I became even more suspicious after a couple hours using it and my
>>Firewall console disapeared from the taskbar and Norton anti-virus
>>became disabled. Reboot restored everything to normal and further
>>scans revealed nothing.
>>
>>If I prevent connections to 192.192.192.192:7777 it will not work. It
>>displays a message saying network adapter did not respond.
>
> It's probably trying to install spyware. Use something else, there
> are other applications out there that do this, like Totalrecorder.

From <http://www.wmrecorder.com/user_guide_91.htm&gt;:

"Spyware Warnings

On some systems, once you install WM Recorder, you may see a warning that
Spyware has been loaded onto your PC. You can safely ignore this warning.
WM Recorder needs to monitor the network traffic to your PC to record --
this is similar to what some Spyware programs do, and Windows may not be
able to tell them apart.

WM Recorder does not:

* Capture anything other than video or audio streams.
* Send or capture any personal information.

Please email us if you have questions about privacy and spyware."

Frankly, anything that's trying to make an outbound connection without
notifying you *IS* spyware. And furthermore, that IP address is in Taiwan
(it looks like a student dormitory address within moe.edu.tw), where so
many viruses and trojans are first released into the wild.

So I wouldn't download it, and I damn sure would disinfect any computer it
has come in contact with.

Good luck.

--
Email, Smarthosting, Web hosting for individuals and business:
Come to http://www.spamblocked.com
"I ran the Malicious Software Removal Tool, and now all my MS ware is
gone!"

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"The Open Sourceror's Apprentice" wrote in message
> On some systems, once you install WM Recorder, you may
> see a warning that Spyware has been loaded onto your PC.
> You can safely ignore this warning. WM Recorder needs to
> monitor the network traffic to your PC to record -- this is
> similar to what some Spyware programs do, and Windows
> may not be able to tell them apart.

Baloney. Unless they can provide some sensible explanation
of WHY it "needs to monitor the network traffic", it is merely
a new 2nd generation of more savy virus writers. I wouldn't go
near it with a 10-meter pole.

My favorite streaming recorder is TotalRecorder from
www.highcriteria.com

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Duran wrote:

> Hi,
> I was taking a look at some app to do this and found "WM Recorder" at:
> www.wmrecorder.com
>
> Does anybody here have experience with this program? It is trying to
> make and outbound connection to 192.192.192.192 using port 7777, I
> have no idea why. That IP has nothing to do with the sites I navigated
> and port 7777 is not associated with any media stream that I know of.
> I would suspect a trojan but I downloaded it from the creator´s site
> and usually trojans are inbound connections (listening) not outbound.
>
> I became even more suspicious after a couple hours using it and my
> Firewall console disapeared from the taskbar and Norton anti-virus
> became disabled. Reboot restored everything to normal and further
> scans revealed nothing.
>
> If I prevent connections to 192.192.192.192:7777 it will not work. It
> displays a message saying network adapter did not respond.

Sounds like it ( or something else ) may be trying to talk to a presumed
LAN connection.

You also need to download and run some anti-spy/malware tool such as
adaware or spybot search and destroy to ensure you don't have any rogue
applications sitting around. Make sure you download the latest definition
file just like an AV product.

Ad-Aware is here http://www.lavasoft.com/

The personal version is free.


Graham

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Chris Hornbeck wrote:

> Does everyone responding get the crossposting virus too?

Care to elaborate what you're saying there Chris ?


Graham

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By the way - one GOOD (or bad) way to get a ton of adware on your
computer is to subscribe to an "illegal" music sharing program. My
biz-partner downloaded Kazaa, and it opened a backdoor for adware users
to install their software, and even after uninstalling Kazaa that port
was still open - what a mess. I cost us $200 to fix her computer
because the adware was so indestructible.

And also - if you want a copy of streamed music - for example if
someone posts their song's MP3 and they don't mind of you have a copy,
you can often right click and select "save target as".

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Codifus wrote:
> Duran wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I was taking a look at some app to do this and found "WM Recorder"
at:
> > www.wmrecorder.com
> >
> > Does anybody here have experience with this program? It is trying
to
> > make and outbound connection to 192.192.192.192 using port 7777, I
> > have no idea why. That IP has nothing to do with the sites I
navigated
> > and port 7777 is not associated with any media stream that I know
of.
> > I would suspect a trojan but I downloaded it from the creator´s
site
> > and usually trojans are inbound connections (listening) not
outbound.
> >
> > I became even more suspicious after a couple hours using it and my
> > Firewall console disapeared from the taskbar and Norton anti-virus
> > became disabled. Reboot restored everything to normal and further
> > scans revealed nothing.
> >
> > If I prevent connections to 192.192.192.192:7777 it will not work.
It
> > displays a message saying network adapter did not respond.
> >
> > thanks for your thoughts
> What kind of soundcard do you have? Soundblasters and the Santa Cruz
> usually have the ability to record streaming broadcasts built in. All

> you need is the DAW recording program, and you can still use the very

> basic built in Windows recorder or recording software that came with
the
> soundcard.
>
> CD

Exactly. Practically any old audio editor will cut the mustard. I'm
not entirely certain why some individuals are hell-bent on obtaining
the exact streamed file vs. just recording the audio into an editor and
saving it in whatever format you want?

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Pooh Bear wrote:

> Duran wrote:

>> I was taking a look at some app to do this and found
>> "WM Recorder" at: www.wmrecorder.com

DO mail them and ask them about the problems you have encountered. They
and their website server are in the US of A and the internet routers
thinks the address connected to appeaars to belong on some Taiwan
university network. The address does btw. not respond to a
tracert-command, but that in itself indicates nothing, and address and
port number are "too neat" and thus possibly irrelevant.

Do not rush to conclusions. There are several ways in which the WM
Recorder people may not be the cause of the issue, such as malware
attaching to their executable file in your machine, malware adopting a
name that resembles their executable files but also the slight
probability of their website being infected with a malware that has
altered the download file or otherwise penetrated.

>> Does anybody here have experience with this program? It is
>> trying to make and outbound connection to 192.192.192.192
>> using port 7777, I have no idea why.

Some software likes to be able to report something, but it should ask
prior to so doing. The numbers are btw. almost too neat.

>> and usually trojans are inbound connections (listening)
>> not outbound.

Make no such asumption. Those I have found and removed on private PC's
have wanted to have an open outbound connection.

>> I became even more suspicious after a couple hours using
>> it and my Firewall console disapeared from the taskbar
>> and Norton anti-virus became disabled. Reboot restored
>> everything to normal and further scans revealed nothing.

I would suspect multiple malware infections as the initial hypothesis.
Just what do you mean by "further scans". You omit almost too much info.

>> If I prevent connections to 192.192.192.192:7777 it will
>> not work. It displays a message saying network adapter did
>> not respond.

It makes some sense for an application that records stremaing media to
ensure that streming media can arrive but it would be a most crude and
impractical way to check for the presence of a network adapter.

> Sounds like it ( or something else ) may be trying to talk
> to a presumed LAN connection.

Yes, ET calling home.

> You also need to download and run some anti-spy/malware tool
> such as adaware or spybot search and destroy

Not "or", "and".

> to ensure you don't have any rogue applications sitting around.

Ensure is not a good wording, minimize the probability is a somewhat
more applicable wording.

I have encountered 4 cases of private PC's being infected with multiple
malwares that these programs did not detect. AVG was helpful in two of
the cases and Trends online scan also helped with some, I like to use it
for a second opinion.

> Make sure you download the latest definition
> file just like an AV product.

Yes, indeed. Microsoft also has something anti-malware now, I haven't
looked into just what it is and what it can do.

> Ad-Aware is here http://www.lavasoft.com/

> The personal version is free.

> Graham


Kind regards

Peter Larsen

--
*******************************************
* My site is at: http://www.muyiovatki.dk *
*******************************************

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"J.C. Scott" <jacyscott@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1111943985.119410.280670@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...

Codifus wrote:
> Duran wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I was taking a look at some app to do this and found "WM Recorder"
at:
> > www.wmrecorder.com
> >
> > Does anybody here have experience with this program? It is trying
to
> > make and outbound connection to 192.192.192.192 using port 7777, I
> > have no idea why. That IP has nothing to do with the sites I
navigated
> > and port 7777 is not associated with any media stream that I know
of.
> > I would suspect a trojan but I downloaded it from the creator´s
site
> > and usually trojans are inbound connections (listening) not
outbound.
> >
> > I became even more suspicious after a couple hours using it and my
> > Firewall console disapeared from the taskbar and Norton anti-virus
> > became disabled. Reboot restored everything to normal and further
> > scans revealed nothing.
> >
> > If I prevent connections to 192.192.192.192:7777 it will not work.
It
> > displays a message saying network adapter did not respond.
> >
> > thanks for your thoughts
> What kind of soundcard do you have? Soundblasters and the Santa Cruz
> usually have the ability to record streaming broadcasts built in. All

> you need is the DAW recording program, and you can still use the very

> basic built in Windows recorder or recording software that came with
the
> soundcard.
>
> CD

Exactly. Practically any old audio editor will cut the mustard. I'm
not entirely certain why some individuals are hell-bent on obtaining
the exact streamed file vs. just recording the audio into an editor and
saving it in whatever format you want?

Some people like me are hell-bent because some recorders like stationripper
or the streamripper plugin for Wimamp will automatically split the tracks
and give you the Title and Artist for each track. Some of the pay programs
will let you record multiple streams at the same time and set a time record
like a vcr.

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WM Recorder is not Spyware or Malware -- it's a commercial product, and
anyone selling a commercial product would have to be either crazy or
stupid to put this sort of thing into the software.

>From the WM Recorder developer:

To setup the local proxy connection WM Recorder creates a local server
that uses either the local host IP (127.0.0.1) or the local computer
IP. The ports utilized are 18777 and 19777. If the local computer uses
a router or a DSL connection the IP starts with 192., or 172., or 10.
The IP listed in the web 192.192.192.192 is either an error picked by
WMR or a spooky computer or server. This address is most than likely
never used.

You can try WM Recorder to record Audio and Video from here:
http://www.wmrecorder.com/download2.php

The Open Sourceror's Apprentice wrote:
> play on <playonAT@comcast.net> wrote in
> news:m8h4419021l52a2ja87j4v6qgfluubor5k@4ax.com:
>
> > On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 01:28:28 -0300, Duran <nobody@nowhere.invalid>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>I was taking a look at some app to do this and found "WM Recorder"
at:
> >>www.wmrecorder.com
> >>
> >>Does anybody here have experience with this program? It is trying
to
> >>make and outbound connection to 192.192.192.192 using port 7777, I
> >>have no idea why. That IP has nothing to do with the sites I
navigated
> >>and port 7777 is not associated with any media stream that I know
of.
> >>I would suspect a trojan but I downloaded it from the creator´s
site
> >>and usually trojans are inbound connections (listening) not
outbound.
> >>
> >>I became even more suspicious after a couple hours using it and my
> >>Firewall console disapeared from the taskbar and Norton anti-virus
> >>became disabled. Reboot restored everything to normal and further
> >>scans revealed nothing.
> >>
> >>If I prevent connections to 192.192.192.192:7777 it will not work.
It
> >>displays a message saying network adapter did not respond.
> >
> > It's probably trying to install spyware. Use something else, there
> > are other applications out there that do this, like Totalrecorder.
>
> From <http://www.wmrecorder.com/user_guide_91.htm&gt;:
>
> "Spyware Warnings
>
> On some systems, once you install WM Recorder, you may see a warning
that
> Spyware has been loaded onto your PC. You can safely ignore this
warning.
> WM Recorder needs to monitor the network traffic to your PC to record
--
> this is similar to what some Spyware programs do, and Windows may not
be
> able to tell them apart.
>
> WM Recorder does not:
>
> * Capture anything other than video or audio streams.
> * Send or capture any personal information.
>
> Please email us if you have questions about privacy and spyware."
>
> Frankly, anything that's trying to make an outbound connection
without
> notifying you *IS* spyware. And furthermore, that IP address is in
Taiwan
> (it looks like a student dormitory address within moe.edu.tw), where
so
> many viruses and trojans are first released into the wild.
>
> So I wouldn't download it, and I damn sure would disinfect any
computer it
> has come in contact with.
>
> Good luck.
>
> --
> Email, Smarthosting, Web hosting for individuals and business:
> Come to http://www.spamblocked.com
> "I ran the Malicious Software Removal Tool, and now all my MS ware is

> gone!"

Here is a simple solution Mp3 recording software solution:
that works great for me and allows full and total control of the audio
recording from a streaming source.
You just simply record the stream as it plays. I have tried a number
of paid and free versions of software that try to accomplish this.

The best that I've found (donation-ware) that works great for me
is the software called "MP3myMP3" recording software. They have a
great faq site at www.mp3mymp3.com/faq.htm which will answer all
of your questions.

The OS doesn't matter at all. If it can be played through your audio
system on your computer - it can usually be recorded - with up to
extremely high fidelity (up to 320 kbps CBR bitrate) as well.
The trade-off of course is disk space - but that is very cheap in
today's markets.

My recommendations for this software (MP3myMP3) is the setup:
Options to record at least bitrate = 256 or 320 under options,
output to your favorite disk location (preferably non-OS partition),
save files as mp3, automatic add to playlist after each recording or rip,
setup Record tab with Device = your audio card (mine is SoundMAX HD
Audio), Input = Stereo Mix.

I simply record the tracks from my streaming source, and manually stop
the recording after the song is finished. I tag the Mp3 accordingly and
move it to the appropriate permanent location. There are various
software programs for both recording and tagging, but I find most
of them not worth the trouble as they miss tag names, artists, etc.
Many of them also limit the bitrate of the recordings as well.
The audio output with MP3myMP3 is well worth the trouble to set it up.

Hope that this helps you and possibly others.
- John