Tivo and C-Band

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On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 18:38:35 GMT, "Greg O." <ozbirn@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

>If a C-band receiver's output is sent to a Tivo unit, will the picture
>quality be degraded?
>

Some.


>It appears to me that it may, because to do the "live replay" feature, it
>needs to store the feed. Is it storing and replaying it at the same
>quality?
>

For the live buffer, there is a marginal loss. Forrecording, you can
set the recording qualtiy lower, to be able to record more
programming.

>Greg O.
>

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On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 20:01:10 GMT, "Greg O." <ozbirn@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

>
>Has anyone successfully interfaced Tivo to a 4DTV receiver?
>
>The Tivo unit puts out a channel-changing signal for DirecTV receivers to
>use to tune to the appropriate channel. It seems to me this feed could be
>mapped to change the 4DTV to a satellite/channel, since most DirecTV
>channels are also on the big dish.
>
>If anyone knows how to do that or has suggestions, let me know. Of course
>you can do manual Tivo recording of your 4DTV, but the real benefit is in
>using their guide information. The main missing piece is some
>hardware/software to map DirecTV channels to 4DTV channels.
>
>Greg O.
>
>

There was a project called blackboxDVR that did exactly that.
It received the DirecTV channel command, mapped the DirecTV channel
number with the 4DTV 4DTV sat/VC, gave the IR command to move to that
satellite, waited for the dish to stop, then changed channel.

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Do you have a website where there is information about the blackbox DVR?

Greg O.

"Gary J Tait" <classicsat@nospam_yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 20:01:10 GMT, "Greg O." <ozbirn@sbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>Has anyone successfully interfaced Tivo to a 4DTV receiver?
>>
>>The Tivo unit puts out a channel-changing signal for DirecTV receivers to
>>use to tune to the appropriate channel. It seems to me this feed could be
>>mapped to change the 4DTV to a satellite/channel, since most DirecTV
>>channels are also on the big dish.
>>
>>If anyone knows how to do that or has suggestions, let me know. Of course
>>you can do manual Tivo recording of your 4DTV, but the real benefit is in
>>using their guide information. The main missing piece is some
>>hardware/software to map DirecTV channels to 4DTV channels.
>>
>>Greg O.
>>
>>
>
> There was a project called blackboxDVR that did exactly that.
> It received the DirecTV channel command, mapped the DirecTV channel
> number with the 4DTV 4DTV sat/VC, gave the IR command to move to that
> satellite, waited for the dish to stop, then changed channel.
>

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On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 03:41:15 GMT, "Greg O." <ozbirn@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

>Do you have a website where there is information about the blackbox DVR?
>
>Greg O.
>

All I know for sure is there is a forum/thread at the Satellite
Projects section of satforums.com.

>"Gary J Tait" <classicsat@nospam_yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 20:01:10 GMT, "Greg O." <ozbirn@sbcglobal.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Has anyone successfully interfaced Tivo to a 4DTV receiver?
>>>
>>>The Tivo unit puts out a channel-changing signal for DirecTV receivers to
>>>use to tune to the appropriate channel. It seems to me this feed could be
>>>mapped to change the 4DTV to a satellite/channel, since most DirecTV
>>>channels are also on the big dish.
>>>
>>>If anyone knows how to do that or has suggestions, let me know. Of course
>>>you can do manual Tivo recording of your 4DTV, but the real benefit is in
>>>using their guide information. The main missing piece is some
>>>hardware/software to map DirecTV channels to 4DTV channels.
>>>
>>>Greg O.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> There was a project called blackboxDVR that did exactly that.
>> It received the DirecTV channel command, mapped the DirecTV channel
>> number with the 4DTV 4DTV sat/VC, gave the IR command to move to that
>> satellite, waited for the dish to stop, then changed channel.
>>
>

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Greg O. wrote:

> That is just what I'm looking for. I could not view the video files on this
> site, they are ".mov" files. How do you view them?
>
> Also, there were no instructions or contact information on this site. How
> do you build or obtain it?
>
> Greg O.
>
That person was on this forum
http://forums.satforums.com/
I think he was in the "4DTV Rocks" section
You can join and ask there

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Thanks very much, the website you provided is fantastic! For others, if you
haven't been to this site, I highly recommend it.

Regarding the DVR Blackbox, it appears this project was begun 2 years ago
and still is not finished. The last post about the expected release date
says it is just "weeks" rather than "months" from being done.

Greg O.

"Aardvark" <abuseeyeplex@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> Greg O. wrote:
>
>> That is just what I'm looking for. I could not view the video files on
>> this site, they are ".mov" files. How do you view them?
>>
>> Also, there were no instructions or contact information on this site.
>> How do you build or obtain it?
>>
>> Greg O.
>>
> That person was on this forum
> http://forums.satforums.com/
> I think he was in the "4DTV Rocks" section
> You can join and ask there
>

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On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 00:42:36 -0500, kryppy <kryppy@gmail.cc> wrote:

>On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 04:25:23 GMT, "Greg O." <ozbirn@sbcglobal.net>
>wrote:
>
>>Thanks very much, the website you provided is fantastic! For others, if you
>>haven't been to this site, I highly recommend it.
>>
>>Regarding the DVR Blackbox, it appears this project was begun 2 years ago
>>and still is not finished. The last post about the expected release date
>>says it is just "weeks" rather than "months" from being done.
>
>
>That thing is cool. I sure hope it is finished before C band is
>entirely dead.
>I think it is possible to make the TiVo control the 4DTV.
>I don't know how to make the magic slices that would make it worth the
>effort.
>Does anyone here?
>

You don't need to, the blackbox DVR is hardware that works with an
unhacked TiVo, mostly as the TiVo cannot drectly control a C-band
receiver.

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On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 17:21:18 -0500, kryppy <kryppy@gmail.cc> wrote:

>On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 10:36:52 -0500, Gary J Tait
><classicsat@nospam_yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 00:42:36 -0500, kryppy <kryppy@gmail.cc> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 04:25:23 GMT, "Greg O." <ozbirn@sbcglobal.net>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>Thanks very much, the website you provided is fantastic! For others, if you
>>>>haven't been to this site, I highly recommend it.
>>>>
>>>>Regarding the DVR Blackbox, it appears this project was begun 2 years ago
>>>>and still is not finished. The last post about the expected release date
>>>>says it is just "weeks" rather than "months" from being done.
>>>
>>>
>>>That thing is cool. I sure hope it is finished before C band is
>>>entirely dead.
>>>I think it is possible to make the TiVo control the 4DTV.
>>>I don't know how to make the magic slices that would make it worth the
>>>effort.
>>>Does anyone here?
>>>
>>
>>You don't need to, the blackbox DVR is hardware that works with an
>>unhacked TiVo, mostly as the TiVo cannot drectly control a C-band
>>receiver.
>
>
>Yeah, I think I can insert the remote codes into the tivo, like with
>the Pansat. The problem would be sending the sat + channel.
>I believe you would need to make a custom slice with some guide data
>that had the additional keystrokes.
>I'll bet the TiVo Canada guys could do it.

knowing how to control a C-ban receiver is the trouble. It does have a
compatible code BTW.

>
>Didn't someone make some software and simple IR hardware on the serial
>port to accomplish this already for a bunch of different irds?
>I wish someone would post the link for that.
>