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I just purchased an old Dynaco ST-400. It does work (and send what
seems to be a non-distorted signal to each speaker. However, I need
help interpreting what it does upon powerup. When power is applied
there is a brief "flash" of light in the clear plastic "window" between
the two front mounted fuses. The light does not stay on. At about the
same time there is a noticeable "clunk", and I assume this in a relay
kicking in. (When I turn the amp off, I also hear a "clunk". Thus, I
assume the noise is a power relay kicking in and out.)

What I really care about is the brief "flash" of light seen through the
clear section between the fuses. Is this OK? Should this light stay
on? What is the flash?

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In article <1111990347.830347.115580@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
<kafer77@ameritech.net> wrote:

>I just purchased an old Dynaco ST-400. It does work (and send what
>seems to be a non-distorted signal to each speaker. However, I need
>help interpreting what it does upon powerup. When power is applied
>there is a brief "flash" of light in the clear plastic "window" between
>the two front mounted fuses. The light does not stay on. At about the
>same time there is a noticeable "clunk", and I assume this in a relay
>kicking in. (When I turn the amp off, I also hear a "clunk". Thus, I
>assume the noise is a power relay kicking in and out.)
>
>What I really care about is the brief "flash" of light seen through the
>clear section between the fuses. Is this OK? Should this light stay
>on? What is the flash?

If I recall correctly (it's been a decade since I sold my ST-416, big
brother of the SD-400) the light you are seeing is an indicator lamp,
which reports the activity of the "Dynaguard" circuit. The relay you
are hearing click, is a speaker-protection relay.

This circuit is designed to keep the speakers disconnected from the
amplifier output circuitry if there is any significant amount of DC
voltage present at the amplifier outputs. Such DC output can occur
during power-up or power-down as the result of voltage transients in
the supply circuitry, or as the result of circuitry faults in the amp
or in the "upstream" components such as the preamp.

Again, if I recall correctly, it is entirely normal for the Dynaguard
indicator light to flash briefly when the amp is first powered on. The
output-protection relay should close with an audible click at the same
instant that the light goes off, plus or minus a bit.

I think that what you are seeing, and hearing, is quite normal and
healthy for this amp.

The one thing I can think of to mention, is that the speaker relay in
these amps can be prone to dirty-contacts problems after some years of
use... I don't think Dynaco used a relay with self-wiping contacts.
If you hear distortion, it may be necessary to open up the amp
(carefully... there's a lot of power stored in the supply caps) and
clean the relay contacts with a burnisher.

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<kafer77@ameritech.net> wrote in message
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> I just purchased an old Dynaco ST-400. It does work (and send what
> seems to be a non-distorted signal to each speaker. However, I need
> help interpreting what it does upon powerup. When power is applied
> there is a brief "flash" of light in the clear plastic "window"
> between the two front mounted fuses. The light does not stay on.

Normal operation for a ST-400.

> At about the same time there is a noticeable "clunk", and I assume
this
> in a relay kicking in. (When I turn the amp off, I also hear a
> "clunk". Thus, I assume the noise is a power relay kicking in and
> out.)

Good job, you've scoped things put about right.

The light is one of the two "Powerguard" lights. Powerguard was a
protective circuit that limited the steady-state output power of the
amp, and also had a DC detection circuit that would disconnect the
speakers with a relay if there was steady-state DC at the output.

> What I really care about is the brief "flash" of light seen through
> the clear section between the fuses. Is this OK?

Yes, its normal. It's a consequence of the amp's circuitry
stabilizing.

>Should this light stay on?

Not very long. If it does, its a sign of a problem.

> What is the flash?

It's the Powerguard lite coming on.

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