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Just to clear up any confusion that may have been caused by
misinformation information posted here by a high-ranking
representative of Stereophile Magazine:

http://news.harmony-central.com/Ne [...] t-Pro.html

On September 5, 1997 Cool Edit Pro 1.0 was announced

Features included 64-track mixing - Multitrack view.

http://www.prorec.com/prorec/press [...] 44007F7E48

Syntrillium Releases Cool Edit 2000 12/11/1999

Optional plug-ins available: the Studio Plug-In adds a
4-track mixing view to Cool Edit 2000

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"Arny Krueger" <arnyk@hotpop.com> wrote in message
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> Just to clear up any confusion that may have been caused by misinformation
> information

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Your mouth is foaming again.

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"Margaret von B." wrote ...
> ?????????????????????????????
> Your mouth is foaming again.

Here, let me plonk you.
Does that help, now?

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"Margaret von B." <margaretvonb@satx.rr.com> wrote in
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> "Arny Krueger" <arnyk@hotpop.com> wrote in message
> news:GvCdncvlg9z5MGffRVn-tA@comcast.com...

>> Just to clear up any confusion that may have been caused
>> by misinformation information

> ?????????????????????????????

Typos seem to really throw you for a loop Maggie, that is
unless they are made by another *normal* like say Art.

> Your mouth is foaming again.

No, my mouth is merely watering from delicious thoughts
about how Atkinson is going to extricate himself from his
latest major goof-up. It's really pretty strange when an
audio magazine editor says so many things wrong about a
signficant product like Audition/CE. What makes it even
stranger is the fact that he owns the product. It could make
one wonder who actually writes the reviews that appear under
his name, no?

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Arny Krueger wrote:
> Just to clear up any confusion that may have been caused by
> misinformation information posted here by a high-ranking
> representative of Stereophile Magazine:

Mr. Kruger is coyly referring to me :-)

> http://news.harmony-central.com/Ne [...] t-Pro.html
> On September 5, 1997 Cool Edit Pro 1.0 was announced
> Features included 64-track mixing - Multitrack view.

Mr. Krueger is correct, Cool Edit pro included a multitrack
module from v1. And this module is a rendering DAW, ie, it
doesn't change the original data files. However, to clear
up confusion, this doesn't affect my correct comment about
CEP being a "destructive" DAW in its 2-channel mode, which
it is.

Mr Krueger appears to be taking my use of the word "destructive"
as being perjorative. It isn't. All it means is that at the end
of the session, it rewrites the original data files with the
changes that have taken place. This is in contrast to a
rendering or EDL-based DAW, which stores a separate file of
the operations required to be performed on the data and
"renders" those operation every time the files are used
without changing them.

Each kind of DAW has its uses, and I use both kinds as
necessary. For example, I find the multitrack crossfade
tool in CEP (now Adobe Audition) way too slow to be
efficient for editing multitrack classical recordings.
For that I use Sonic Studio Classic, which still, in my
opinion, has the best crossfade tool of any DAW program.

But for multitrack non-classical editing and mixing, CEP
is fast, versatile, and preserves the original sound quality.

I fail to undertsand why any of these opinions should be
regarded as controversial.

John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile

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<Stereophile_Editor@Compuserve.com> wrote in message
news:1123769947.089638.218750@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
> Arny Krueger wrote:
>> Just to clear up any confusion that may have been caused
>> by misinformation information posted here by a
>> high-ranking representative of Stereophile Magazine:
>
> Mr. Kruger is coyly referring to me :-)
>
>> http://news.harmony-central.com/Ne [...] t-Pro.html
>> On September 5, 1997 Cool Edit Pro 1.0 was announced
>> Features included 64-track mixing - Multitrack view.
>
> Mr. Krueger is correct, Cool Edit pro included a
> multitrack module from v1. And this module is a rendering
> DAW, ie, it doesn't change the original data files.

Nice to see you for once change your story when faced with
overwhelming evidence, John

> However, to clear
> up confusion, this doesn't affect my correct comment about
> CEP being a "destructive" DAW in its 2-channel mode, which
> it is.

Straw man.

> Mr Krueger appears to be taking my use of the word
> "destructive" as being perjorative.

Mr. Atkinson seems to is demonstrating his penchant for mind
reading.

>It isn't. All it
> means is that at the end of the session, it rewrites the
> original data files with the changes that have taken
> place.

That's how Audition/CEP's Edit View works.

> Ts is in contrast to a rendering or EDL-based
> DAW, which stores a separate file of
> the operations required to be performed on the data and
> "renders" those operation every time the files are used
> without changing them.

That's how Audition CEP's Multitrack View works.


> Each kind of DAW has its uses, and I use both kinds as
> necessary. For example, I find the multitrack crossfade
> tool in CEP (now Adobe Audition) way too slow to be
> efficient for editing multitrack classical recordings.

Probably something to do with that Pentium what was it unh
166 that you seemed to be enamoured with.

> For that I use Sonic Studio Classic, which still, in my
> opinion, has the best crossfade tool of any DAW program.

Tell me John how crossfades would be used in a recording
where the goal is the most realistic and accurate
reproduction of a live event (i.e., the true meaning of High
Fidelity)

> But for multitrack non-classical editing and mixing, CEP
> is fast, versatile, and preserves the original sound
> quality.

Never found a situation where Audition/CEP had a problem
with a certain genre of music.

> I fail to undertsand why any of these opinions should be
> regarded as controversial.

It wasn't your opinions John, it was your out-and-out
misrepresentation of Audition/CEP's Multitrack editing
feature as being a late-life plug-in add-on. Apparently you
really don't have a lot of experience with the full-blown
product, particularly the Adobe versions.

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Arny Krueger wrote:
> <Stereophile_Editor@Compuserve.com> wrote in message
> news:1123769947.089638.218750@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
> > Each kind of DAW has its uses, and I use both kinds as
> > necessary. For example, I find the multitrack crossfade
> > tool in CEP (now Adobe Audition) way too slow to be
> > efficient for editing multitrack classical recordings.
>
> Probably something to do with that Pentium what was it unh
> 166 that you seemed to be enamoured with.

Yes I used a Pentium 166 in 1998 thru 2000, Mr. Krueger.
What does that have to do with my experience of CEP/Adobe
Audition's multitrack crossfade tool? The slowness of the
tool is nothing to do with the hardware but the awkwardness
of the software interface. I am simply reporting my experience
having tried AA. As I said, for multitrack classical editing,
where you need complete and quick control over every aspect
of the crossfade, I find Sonic Studio Classic very much faster
than even the latest release of Adobe Audition.

Your opinion is different. Why should that be a problem for
either of us? Surely, what matters is that each of us uses the
tool we individually find most appopriate?

John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile

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Stereophile_Editor@Compuserve.com wrote:
> I am simply reporting my experience having tried AA.

Just to cross the "t"s and dot the "i"s, I use Adobe Audition 1.0
(didn't need the extra functionality offered by v1.5 and thought
the upgrade price for registered users of v1.0 a little steep)
running on a 2.4GHz Pentium 4 with 512MB of RAM -- I know, could
always use more RAM), with just under a terabyte of external Firewire
drive space.

However, most of my tracking these days is done with the Metric
Halo beta record program running on an 867MHz TiBook, accessing
the same Firewire storage. Some flakiness with drives make me feel
that for the next paying gig, I am going to invest in a Wiebetech
FW Raid array.

John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile

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