best mobo manufacturer

mine is abit then asus, whats yours?


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i'm waiting for the nforce 250 with the same style board. i love the fact they got rid of all that primitive crap. i don't use parallel port nor serial. i love how they have active cooling over the VM. all you got to do, is take the cover off, put some mosfet sinks on the transistors and put the cover back on. the capacitors are positioned for the best air flow.

thats exactly what i have on my mind for my next system. BGA sinks work real well too. all i can ask for next is to get rid of fd controller and the ide interface. i can't wait to see what pciX is going to bring me!!! wooooooo AMD is doing great, considering! i wish them the best and look forward to their new innovations.

My ABIT NF7 v2.0 is working great for me.

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oh i agree totally,

gigabyte is definitely my top choice... abit would be a close second.

i love my 8ipe1000pro v.2, dualie on the bois helped me out just recently and i love the easytune 4 as well as there multitude of settings you can actually change in the bios.



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NO, it sux! LOL, they should put lots of ports on the back EXCEPT the legacy ports, and they should have onboard HEADERS for those! Get rid of the crappy fan on the back and load the back with ports. Abit has disappointed me by not including a gameport header as so many others have.

WTF d00d, trying to force me to quit using my favorite printer and joystick just because YOU don't like them? What harm would headers do to you? Nothing, you're just trying to make it harder on the rest of us!

I like the AGP slot in the standard position with 1 free slot below it for card cooling.

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i really like your moms USB port!

i think my abit has.... don't YOU think?

that would be lovely!

You've got me. No idea

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thanks. i'll go see if i can tell WTF hes sayin

i think if you rephrase that question, the question would be easier to answer.

"are you wearing carhartts?" to be exact. lol

I'd have to say, not necessarily. Wranglers or Rustler jeans, etc, are more likely to be found in a redneck's closet, really.

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I found the joystick that best fits my hand, when they discontinued them I bought 2 more, cheap, just so I'd have spares! And you don't want me to USE the best joystick?

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Drinking beer and eating steak don't make one a redneck, but eating possum is damned near a certainty that ya are.


I'm going to have to start a "What Defines A Redneck" thread one of these days.

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deer meat is different.

you should really try some raccoon or dillo sometime,

mmm, makes me mouth water.

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No thanks, I'm not into that, my joystick has to be made of plastic, electromechanical, and controlled by me.

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you dont need that much memory,

from my understanding if you have too much ram after a while it will affedct your system,

IE. it will take longer to search thru your ram to find somthing.

someone please correct me if im wrong.

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Just one thing about multi-proc boards, it depends. I have a dual <A HREF="http://server6.uploadit.org/files/TheGrapeApe-DUALAMD.jpg" target="_new">XP1800+ ASUS A7M266-D board (a little dusty)</A> which I moded to MP an OC'd to 2000+, and which I could incrementally upgrade now with either 2 MP2800+s or 2 moded XP2600+ (the 133FSB 2800+ [rare enough already] cannot be moded from what I've read). Also, I was able to start with a single 1600+ (which I sold when I replaced with cheap 1800+s).

And while a single 3.4ghz HT processor will kick A$$ in many applications, however in the multi-threaded apps (like Adobe PhotoShop and Premiere that I use & which play well to both solutions) my rig would mop the floor with it, especially if it were equipped with dual 2600/2800s. And compared with anything from the time, even dual XEON solution (talk about expensive), mine upgrades better and cheaper.
It simply depends on what you wish to do with it. I personally have always split up my computer between gaming+online rig, and work/editing rig. For editing, I'm sure that 4 opteron/FXs would outperform even the quickest of current and even socket 939 rigs for quit some time. Of course, yes it does come down to money, but really my dual MP rig came at a small premium over other ASUS single proc solutions (less than $100 CAD).

Bang for the buck is a relative thing, if it weren't for the multi-proc support I would've dumped that board and the slow proc, and slightly slower memory for something else, thus having another thing that would get clobbered by any new single proc out there in non-multi apps. So as I see it, it saved me from a wasted upgrade, by allowing me more power at the price of a cheap new case.

However I don't expect that everyone would want 2 rigs, nor find benifit from multi-proc. However if we're dreaming of the 'perfect solution' I just thought it would be nice to add the one from tYAN with a few tweaks.

Value wise, I'd say go with a sockt 939 solution from Gigabyte or Asus, with either the nV nForce3-250gb or the VIA K8T800Pro chipset, whichever one turns out to perform best/offer most features one they actually hit stores. Things like PCI-EX and DDR+DDR2 would also be nice to look for.


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From what I have been reading and in fact read months and months ago was that the new AMD 64 that came out because of the design of the bit registry in the cpu that you could in fact plug every stick of RAM ever made on the planet and the CPU could utilize all of it.
That is if you had a software program that required it perhaps mapping every star in the known universe for example.

Memory corruption was first discovered in Win98 by many none technical people when they found out that installing more then 512MB of system hardware RAM caused system instability. Most users did not understand at the time that Windows 98 can only see Software wise 512 MB but the motherboards and memory chips had progressed to a point where more then 512MB could by physically installed.

Windows XP was specifically designed to see all installed memory both at software and hardware levels.

With the introduction of the AMD 64 bit CPU and later versions of that CPU Motherboard manufacturers were scrambling to introduce a motherboard that could support memory for that CPU in DUAL channel mode. Most of the bench marks and professional test platforms were seeing bottlenecks in system performance because the CPU was prevented from operating at peak efficiency because the Motherboards from ABIT and ASUS had not been produced yet to provide a DUAL channel functional main board for the new CPU's

If you are talking about old technology any of the AMD XP line of CPU's or any of the Intel CPU's still at a 32 bit level yes system stability and corruption can occur with Large amounts of installed hardware memory.

However since a 64 bit design CPU could utilize every stick of ram ever produced on the planet all at once (theoretically compatible) then installing 4 Gig of hardware ram running in a DUAL channel capacity is not going to slow the 64 Bit Cpu's down its' going to speed them up and improve functionality. 4 Gigs to a 64 bit cpu is a drop in the bucket not even worth talking about.

Consider running your home AMD 64 CPU with 5000 Gigs !! and you still would only be cruising at the lower 2% of what the CPU could see and utilize.

Barton 3200+ 400MHz
A7N8X Deluxe
Liquid 12 Celsius
2x512 Crucial DDR 400 PC3200
GeForce FX5900
Two Maxtor 40Gig 8MB cach 7200rpm
SONY RW 52x/24x/52x
SONY DVD 16x/40x