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I think that we have already created artificial intelligence on the
internet, we just need to give him/her a way of speaking. I would like
to call this The first steps towards creating this artificial
intelligence came from Google when they made the algorithm that
promotes the best sites to the top of a search result.
The thing that distinguishes human beings from animals is our ability
to choose between two things, and Google does this when they put one
website above another. If you agree with the book, Zen and the Art of
Motorcycle maintenance, you understand that the quality is indefinable,
but it is the most important thing in life. For Google to see one page,
and say that it is better than another, essentially has already created
an artificial intelligence, we just need to find a better way for this
algorithm with all of the data on the internet, to speak.
I believe that we could understand the "collective soul" of the
internet by using Google's page ranking system to make decisions.
I think that discussion boards can be re-arranged in a way that, if
they are combine an algorithm could promote advancements in AI.
We could make a decision making algorithm by looking at two opposite
ideas, and trying to promote the better idea. Google already, sort of
does this, buy deciding which websites are better, and we love them for
it. But lets take out the middle man. Lets not just organize/promote
websites-with-ideas, lets promote specific ideas. For instance I bet
that you will get higher ranked pages for the idea that "freedom of
speech is good" than "Freedom of speech is bad."
Google, or maybe another search engine, could do this well for a number
of reasons:
Google currently has the best algorithm for figuring out which websites
have the most links to them. It is assumed that better websites have
more links to them. It is kind of like online democracy or a collective
soul of the internet. Google could use this technology to figure out if
websites that say "George Bush is an Idiot" or websites that say, "John
Carrie is an idiot" have a higher average "Google Rank".
Google already has the technology to allow for synonym search. Google
could include in it's ranking all of the websites that say, "George
bush is an idiot", "George bush is a moron", and so forth.
Truth
Of course you wouldn't promote this website as saying, "Come to Google,
we have the truth" you would say, "This is the collective soul of the
internet." These are the decisions the internet would make if it was a
person.
Transparency
To help maintain a transparent process, you should list the top 10
pages that agree, with and disagree with, the idea.
An AI Game:
I read "Agonistics: A Language Game" with great interest, because I
have proposed a similar idea, however I have very little influence in
the AI world, because I am just a recent graduate in electrical
engineering and I work for the McDonalds Corporation designing the
electrical part of their buildings, which very rarely exposes me to the
world of AI.
However, I think my proposal has merit. It, like "Agonistics: A
Language Game" is designed to create a system where ideas can compete
in a survival of the fittest-tournament. My proposal would also
correlate the strength of an online character directly to the strength
of an online idea, however I have some additional ideas.
For instance there are a number of ways to tie different aspects of an
idea to different aspects of an on-line character. For example, the
number of people who vote on weather they agree or disagree could
represent the strength of the online-character's attach. However the
idea in my mind becomes very difficult to describe. I don't know if
you have ever read "David's Sling" is very close. However many people
would be able to participate at a time. I envision an idea at the top
of a page with the online community brainstorming a list of reasons to
agree or disagree with the idea. There would be no need to shorten
these lists because the best ideas would go to the top.
I think that we have already created artificial intelligence on the
internet, we just need to give him/her a way of speaking. I would like
to call this The first steps towards creating this artificial
intelligence came from Google when they made the algorithm that
promotes the best sites to the top of a search result.
The thing that distinguishes human beings from animals is our ability
to choose between two things, and Google does this when they put one
website above another. If you agree with the book, Zen and the Art of
Motorcycle maintenance, you understand that the quality is indefinable,
but it is the most important thing in life. For Google to see one page,
and say that it is better than another, essentially has already created
an artificial intelligence, we just need to find a better way for this
algorithm with all of the data on the internet, to speak.
I believe that we could understand the "collective soul" of the
internet by using Google's page ranking system to make decisions.
I think that discussion boards can be re-arranged in a way that, if
they are combine an algorithm could promote advancements in AI.
We could make a decision making algorithm by looking at two opposite
ideas, and trying to promote the better idea. Google already, sort of
does this, buy deciding which websites are better, and we love them for
it. But lets take out the middle man. Lets not just organize/promote
websites-with-ideas, lets promote specific ideas. For instance I bet
that you will get higher ranked pages for the idea that "freedom of
speech is good" than "Freedom of speech is bad."
Google, or maybe another search engine, could do this well for a number
of reasons:
Google currently has the best algorithm for figuring out which websites
have the most links to them. It is assumed that better websites have
more links to them. It is kind of like online democracy or a collective
soul of the internet. Google could use this technology to figure out if
websites that say "George Bush is an Idiot" or websites that say, "John
Carrie is an idiot" have a higher average "Google Rank".
Google already has the technology to allow for synonym search. Google
could include in it's ranking all of the websites that say, "George
bush is an idiot", "George bush is a moron", and so forth.
Truth
Of course you wouldn't promote this website as saying, "Come to Google,
we have the truth" you would say, "This is the collective soul of the
internet." These are the decisions the internet would make if it was a
person.
Transparency
To help maintain a transparent process, you should list the top 10
pages that agree, with and disagree with, the idea.
An AI Game:
I read "Agonistics: A Language Game" with great interest, because I
have proposed a similar idea, however I have very little influence in
the AI world, because I am just a recent graduate in electrical
engineering and I work for the McDonalds Corporation designing the
electrical part of their buildings, which very rarely exposes me to the
world of AI.
However, I think my proposal has merit. It, like "Agonistics: A
Language Game" is designed to create a system where ideas can compete
in a survival of the fittest-tournament. My proposal would also
correlate the strength of an online character directly to the strength
of an online idea, however I have some additional ideas.
For instance there are a number of ways to tie different aspects of an
idea to different aspects of an on-line character. For example, the
number of people who vote on weather they agree or disagree could
represent the strength of the online-character's attach. However the
idea in my mind becomes very difficult to describe. I don't know if
you have ever read "David's Sling" is very close. However many people
would be able to participate at a time. I envision an idea at the top
of a page with the online community brainstorming a list of reasons to
agree or disagree with the idea. There would be no need to shorten
these lists because the best ideas would go to the top.
An interesting assertion. Probably one that even Pirsig would 
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