I know some people don't like them but, like you've probably heard, if
it sounds good on the ns10's... it'll sound good anywhere. Does anyone
know if there are anymore new ns10s on the market? An associate of
mine recently found the last two at a nearby guitar center (eeek) out
of pure luck. its amazing that Yamaha ran out of the wood pulp used in
the woofer cone and it is no longer available. I just liked the sound
of them, dang-it.
Dan Powers <realbraveaudio@yahoo.com> wrote:
>I know some people don't like them but, like you've probably heard, if
>it sounds good on the ns10's... it'll sound good anywhere. Does anyone
>know if there are anymore new ns10s on the market? An associate of
>mine recently found the last two at a nearby guitar center (eeek) out
>of pure luck. its amazing that Yamaha ran out of the wood pulp used in
>the woofer cone and it is no longer available. I just liked the sound
>of them, dang-it.
So buy a used pair. Replacement tweeters will still be available for
a good while, and there are lots of used ones out there. Add some carrying
handles and take them wherever you go.
There are plenty of new things on the market that you can use like NS-10s,
but they are all things that sound very different and will require some
relearning. If you're already used to what the NS-10s do, get some used
NS-10s.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
What are close replacements in your opinion Scott?
Martin
"Scott Dorsey" <kludge@panix.com> wrote in message
news:ceedq6$f43$1@panix2.panix.com...
> Dan Powers <realbraveaudio@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >I know some people don't like them but, like you've probably heard, if
> >it sounds good on the ns10's... it'll sound good anywhere. Does anyone
> >know if there are anymore new ns10s on the market? An associate of
> >mine recently found the last two at a nearby guitar center (eeek) out
> >of pure luck. its amazing that Yamaha ran out of the wood pulp used in
> >the woofer cone and it is no longer available. I just liked the sound
> >of them, dang-it.
>
> So buy a used pair. Replacement tweeters will still be available for
> a good while, and there are lots of used ones out there. Add some
carrying
> handles and take them wherever you go.
>
> There are plenty of new things on the market that you can use like NS-10s,
> but they are all things that sound very different and will require some
> relearning. If you're already used to what the NS-10s do, get some used
> NS-10s.
> --scott
>
>
> --
> "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
Martin Quinn <mquinn@eircom.net> wrote:
>What are close replacements in your opinion Scott?
There are no close replacements.
There are plenty of other good check-mix monitors. There is the NHT Super Zero,
which is a lot more neutral in the midrange but still just as restricted on
the bottom end. There are the 8" Bogen full-range speakers, which are much
more restricted than even NS-10s. There's the cuing speaker on the ATR-100,
which is very low-fi but great for getting a sense of how things sound on
a transistor radio.
Oh, yes, and the Tannoy Proto-J. The Super Zero and the Proto-J may actually
be too accurate in the midrange if you like things as far forward as the NS-10
makes it, but they are both restricted enough to do the job. Fostex also makes
some single-driver full-range boxes.
None of them do the same thing the NS-10s do, but they do nasty enough things
to be useful.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote in message news:<ceeqpn$pp4$1@panix2.panix.com>...
> Martin Quinn <mquinn@eircom.net> wrote:
> >What are close replacements in your opinion Scott?
>
> There are no close replacements.
>
> There are plenty of other good check-mix monitors. There is the NHT Super Zero,
> which is a lot more neutral in the midrange but still just as restricted on
> the bottom end. There are the 8" Bogen full-range speakers, which are much
> more restricted than even NS-10s. There's the cuing speaker on the ATR-100,
> which is very low-fi but great for getting a sense of how things sound on
> a transistor radio.
>
> Oh, yes, and the Tannoy Proto-J. The Super Zero and the Proto-J may actually
> be too accurate in the midrange if you like things as far forward as the NS-10
> makes it, but they are both restricted enough to do the job. Fostex also makes
> some single-driver full-range boxes.
>
> None of them do the same thing the NS-10s do, but they do nasty enough things
> to be useful.
> --scott
You know it's funny, I actually have a pair of proto-js... they aren't
bad. They are actually quite good for the money. I have them in my
project studio and I thought that they were a bit inaccurate in the
low end but then I realized that it was the room I was listening in. I
have since then fixed it but there are still some listening problems
as far as accuracy.
My only other question is what have you guys done as far as treating
your rooms? I think I pretty much have it down but I was just curious
as to what you have done?!
Dan Powers <realbraveaudio@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>You know it's funny, I actually have a pair of proto-js... they aren't
>bad. They are actually quite good for the money. I have them in my
>project studio and I thought that they were a bit inaccurate in the
>low end but then I realized that it was the room I was listening in. I
>have since then fixed it but there are still some listening problems
>as far as accuracy.
They don't really have any low end to be inaccurate. You put anything with
serious bass extension into them, and the drivers bottom out and sound awful,
which is a very handy thing (and the reason lots of people like NS-10s).
>My only other question is what have you guys done as far as treating
>your rooms? I think I pretty much have it down but I was just curious
>as to what you have done?!
Well, my mains are bipolars so what I have done has been mostly to add
high frequency damping to the sides and to add a huge amount of diffusion
to the front and sides of the room. The room is large enough that most of
the low end problems are very low, where they are less of an issue. My
main problem is that the side window makes for some asymmetry in the top
end response no matter what I do (even with curtains closed).
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
the mackie hr-824's have kind of taken the place of ns-10s. not
because they sound anything like ns-10s, but because they have gotten
very popular so you see them often in different studios. i think they
own a "plurality" of the nearfield market now, excepting legacy ns-10s
that are still in operation.
xy <genericaudioperson@hotmail.com> wrote:
>the mackie hr-824's have kind of taken the place of ns-10s. not
>because they sound anything like ns-10s, but because they have gotten
>very popular so you see them often in different studios. i think they
>own a "plurality" of the nearfield market now, excepting legacy ns-10s
>that are still in operation.
It has sort of become the de-facto standard monitor that you can expect
to be the same from room to room. And quite frankly, that's great news.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
no, you're right, it is a good thing, scott. You know whats funny is
that a good friend of mine actually owns the NS-10 and the same Mackie
speakers hr 824's... I could have sworn that he just told me he just
bought those mackies...
I'd like to pick them up (whenever business picks up again). They
sounded pretty good.
"Dan Powers" <realbraveaudio@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:9e4a2507.0407301232.29a61a0@posting.google.com...
> I know some people don't like them but, like you've probably heard, if
> it sounds good on the ns10's... it'll sound good anywhere. Does anyone
> know if there are anymore new ns10s on the market? An associate of
> mine recently found the last two at a nearby guitar center (eeek) out
> of pure luck. its amazing that Yamaha ran out of the wood pulp used in
> the woofer cone and it is no longer available. I just liked the sound
> of them, dang-it.
>
> dan powers
> 'real brave audio'
I have a pair I'm going to sell.
Lance
mccollumguitars.com
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