Tannoy Reveals

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You wrote on 2 Aug 2004 08:26:53 -0700:

I> I'm wanting to get me a pair of these to use as monitors in my
I> recording studio. My question is, what to power them with? I could
I> get an alesis rs150 power amp, will that work? Also, I have an old
I> Technics hifi receiver, could you use a home stereo component like
I> that to drive studio monitors, or would that color the sound somehow?

I think Krell and Hafler are the usual candidates here. I haven't heard the
Alesis amp myself, but I have heard some less than favourable comments about
it. This could be gear snobbery, for all I know.

Speakers are usually responsible for more colouration than amps, but I would
suspect that the Technics receiver may have problems at low frequencies (you
would like a really low corner frequency) and high powers (where distortion
may be unacceptable). Try it and see, though . . .

I have had good results with a second hand 50W Rotel power amp. I don't feel
that I am particularly missing anything, although if I need higher power
someday, I know that I will need a more capable amp. I usually monitor at
relatively low levels, though. Depending on what you are expecting, you may
find some of the Denon amps to be passable, too.

Ryan

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> tarbabytunes@aol.com (TarBabyTunes)

>Save yourself the trouble and get the powered ones!

That's not bad advice, the powered ones _are_ Bi-Amped, and if you decide
to go surround you just buy a few more...



Will Miho
NY Music & TV Audio Guy
Off the Morning Show! & sleepin' In... / Fox News
"The large print giveth and the small print taketh away..." Tom Waits

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"hollywood_steve" <sjp@soca.com> wrote in message
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> tarbabytunes@aol.com (TarBabyTunes) wrote in message
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> > << My question is, what to power them with? >>
> >
> > Save yourself the trouble and get the powered ones!
> >
> > stv
>
> I'll disagree.....
>
> A used Hafler P3000 ($300 +/-) will give you a much better amp than
> what you get in the active model. And you can upgrade speakers
> without tossing your amp, or the other way around, etc. The active
> monitor trend just baffles me....I can list several advantages of the
> separate format while the active monitors only seem to offer
> convenience for folks who don't want to select and purchase
> appropriate amp/speaker combos.

They also offer the ability to do the crossover a lot more accurately, since
they're doing it at line level into truly resistive loads, and can insert
corrective networks for the drivers' actual characteristics. That's not to
say that you can't get very good speakers with passive crossovers and
separate amplifiers; of course you can, and for many applications that's the
way to go. But there's more to active speakers than mere convenience.

Peace,
Paul

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Iarwain <iarwain_8@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>So I'm leaning now toward the P1500, would that be a good choice? It
>looks like the P3000 could be too powerful for those speakers?

You are much more apt to damage speakers by underpowering than overpowering.
And the P3000 sounds better than the P1500.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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>But if you're careful with the P1500, and that's what you can afford,
>then go ahead with it.
>
>
>
>--
>I'm really Mike Rivers

The Hafler P1500 is a nice amp. I use mine thru Tannoy PBM 6.5's, which are
the previous line before the Reveals. I moved up from a RA100 and there was a
remarkable improvement. Things became a lot clearer and not as harsh sounding.
The RA100 got muddy sounding when you drive it a llittle bit. I've had the
P1500/PBM 6.5 combo for over 4 years now. Maybe I need to move up to something
else?
BTW, I did add a 10" HSU sub for bass extension so I could hear down to 25.
Found out there was more going on down there than I was aware of. At least I
can roll that off so it doesn't blow my mixes.


--Wayne

-"sounded good to me"-

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<< sjp@soca.com (hollywood_steve) >>
<< I'll disagree.....

A used Hafler P3000 ($300 +/-) will give you a much better amp than
what you get in the active model. And you can upgrade speakers
without tossing your amp, or the other way around, etc. The active
monitor trend just baffles me....I can list several advantages of the
separate format while the active monitors only seem to offer
convenience for folks who don't want to select and purchase
appropriate amp/speaker combos. >>

Steve - the Active Reveals are Bi-Amped, and they have optimized the amps
and crossovers with the particular speakers for performance. You would need 2
stereo amps to do that passively, and how well they matched the speakers can be
confusing for a newbie to figure out (and as we have seen here, it ihas been. )

And furthermore the Actives are *much less expensive* than to buy the
passives and two good stereo amps. For example, at 8thstreet.com right now
you can get a pair of Active Reveals for $519, which is just about $210 more
than the Passive versions. You can't recommend 4 decent channels of amps at
twice that price! And for $320 more you can get them with a matched 10"
subwoofer, that's just $829 with free shipping! You really can't beat that
with a stick.

http://www.8thstreet.com/product.a [...] Monitoring

Will Miho
NY Music & TV Audio Guy
Off the Morning Show! & sleepin' In... / Fox News
"The large print giveth and the small print taketh away..." Tom Waits

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In article <20040805024259.16492.00000975@mb-m14.aol.com>,
bruwhaha58097238@aol.com says...

> Wow! $519.00..... That is a steal, even for a used set, I paid about $900.00
> for my (new) set. You can't hardly beat the built in matched amp, crossover and
> speaker of the actives. But if you have a set of passives, look at a Tannoy amp
> for power (the Halfer will work fine to). I don't know if you can run a single
> channel amp into the passives but heres a good review you can read.

The funny thing about the Reveals is IMHO that the passives
sound better than the active ones. A decent amp required.


--
/ Peter Kaersaa