Millennia and Neumann

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lots of m's and n's!

but seriously, i was wondering how Neumann mics (KM-84, U87, TLM-103
etc) tend to pair up with the Millennia preamp. i really like Neumann
mics, and i've heard and observed great results with the Millennia
HV-3. but i don't have enough experience to know if the Neumanns
"like" the Millennia in the same way that a U87 likes being mated with
a 1073.

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On 2 Aug 2004 22:59:00 -0700, in rec.audio.pro you wrote:

>lots of m's and n's!
>
>but seriously, i was wondering how Neumann mics (KM-84, U87, TLM-103
>etc) tend to pair up with the Millennia preamp. i really like Neumann
>mics, and i've heard and observed great results with the Millennia
>HV-3. but i don't have enough experience to know if the Neumanns
>"like" the Millennia in the same way that a U87 likes being mated with
>a 1073.


Depends on the mic. I'm not a fan of the KM-184 into an HV-3, but
adore our KM-84s into HV-3. Monte tried a KM-84 into an HV-3 and said
it didn't sound right. Go figure.

We've got a Klaused U87 which into an HV-3 is magic on my voice. But
I've heard a stock U87 into an HV-3 that wasn't my cup of tea. A
current favorite stage vocal path uses a KM-105 into HV-3 -- rock
constant timbre from breath to scream.

I've tried KM-100 collette series mics (KM-130, KM-140, etc.) into
HV-3 and almost always prefer Schoeps CMC, Sennheiser MKH, DPA 4000,
or Josephson 600 mics in their place. Then again, our BLUE restored
M49 into an HV-3 is like butter wrapped in silk on female voice.

Bottom line -- it's always a new day with mic and preamp mating on a
new program in a new room with new talent. Gotta try 'em and see.

JL

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I regularly use an STT-1 with several u87's and always seem to make
the client happy.
Between the U87's patterns and all the variety the STT1 offers, there
seems to be more than enough flexiblity available with that setup to
work well on most vocal apps. I'm not saying it's the best vocal chain
(as that doesn't exixt except on a per situation basis) but I'm saying
that it has yet to be "not great enought" that a client wished to take
time to change out the mic/mic pre combo.

I think there is alot to be said for having the ability to swap a
transformer in or out as well as
tube or solid state signal paths in addition to comp and eq
capability.

So, as for Nueman/Millenia combinations a U87 and STT1 seem to be a
very powerful one in my book.

Chris
wavetrap




genericaudioperson@hotmail.com (xy) wrote in message news:<6c38b64b.0408022159.114fadf0@posting.google.com>...
> lots of m's and n's!
>
> but seriously, i was wondering how Neumann mics (KM-84, U87, TLM-103
> etc) tend to pair up with the Millennia preamp. i really like Neumann
> mics, and i've heard and observed great results with the Millennia
> HV-3. but i don't have enough experience to know if the Neumanns
> "like" the Millennia in the same way that a U87 likes being mated with
> a 1073.

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xy <genericaudioperson@hotmail.com> wrote:
>How is the "resolution" of the KMS-105 into the HV-3? I'm into lots
>of good-quality detail.

It's excruciatingly detailed. Ask Roger what the jazz festival tapes have
sounded like. (Admittedly there's a transformer splitter between the HV-3
and the KMS-105 on those tracks, but it still sounds like the KMS-105).
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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John La Grou <jl@jps.net> wrote:
>On 4 Aug 2004 18:12:38 -0400, kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
>>xy <genericaudioperson@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>How is the "resolution" of the KMS-105 into the HV-3? I'm into lots
>>>of good-quality detail.
>>
>>It's excruciatingly detailed.
>
>What he said. In a good way.

Maybe not in a good way. At the jazz festival, it was a good way for
some of the performers, but there were a couple that had some odd slapping
and clicking sounds in their mouth that really got exaggerated.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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In article <cesbko$t01$1@panix2.panix.com> kludge@panix.com writes:

> Maybe not in a good way. At the jazz festival, it was a good way for
> some of the performers, but there were a couple that had some odd slapping
> and clicking sounds in their mouth that really got exaggerated.

Yeah, man! Listen to that RESOLUTION! (to some, this is more important
than a pleasing voice)

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thanks Chris,

does the Origin have the ability to make a "true" HV-3 preamp, or is
it a modded HV-3 when you select solid state and no other sections?

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In article <6c38b64b.0408052209.6bbb9671@posting.google.com> genericaudioperson@hotmail.com writes:

> would it be "weird" to use the KMS-105 as a studio vocal mic?

It's never weird to use a mic in the studio (or any place else) if it
helps you to achieve your goal. People use SM-58s in the studio
because the singer gets things out of that mic that he can't get out
of a prized vintage tube or ribbon mic firmly mounted on a stand.


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in article BD3B340B.73C%ten.nozirev@dlywsinhoj.com, JoVee at
ten.nozirev@dlywsinhoj.com wrote on 8/8/04 1:33 AM:

> The AKG585 and oddly the Neumann 105 both are nice at minimising that (as is
Apologies for brainfart...

that should of course read

The AKG535...

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The milennia is an excellent choice and I see it in many of the finest
studios. It is nice to have a variety of preamps, and there are now
many excellent ones available. The Great River is highly regarded;
and for the feeling of being inside the microphone, the Audio Upgrades
stand alone unit cannot be beat. Both of these last two will drive
ribbons as well.

jj


On 2 Aug 2004 22:59:00 -0700, genericaudioperson@hotmail.com (xy)
wrote:

>lots of m's and n's!
>
>but seriously, i was wondering how Neumann mics (KM-84, U87, TLM-103
>etc) tend to pair up with the Millennia preamp. i really like Neumann
>mics, and i've heard and observed great results with the Millennia
>HV-3. but i don't have enough experience to know if the Neumanns
>"like" the Millennia in the same way that a U87 likes being mated with
>a 1073.