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Anonymous
August 4, 2004 2:07:46 AM

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I have been using Peak for occasional declicking of vinyl for several
years and am getting sick of it's shortcomings.

Maybe I am spoiled, but I had access to Sonic Solutions for a while in
the late 1990s and all you had to do (seemingly) was glance at that
thing the right way and it would produce amazing results.

Losing access to Sonic (the studio who owned it closed), I resorted to
Peak, as I already happened to have it on my HD for simple waveform
editing tasks.

My problem with the click removal functions in Peak are that if you set
it to "repair all", it usually does more harm than good, often creating
waveforms more mis-shapen than the originals. Tinkering with the
settings doesn't really help much; it will still repair some clicks
just fine, but hopelessly mangle others.

Doing it manually takes FOREVER.

So my question is if anyone out there can recoomend a Mac OSX based
click-repair tool that is more reliable than Peak, but not as costly as
Sonic, one that ha a manual mode and a USEABLE automatic mode.

I don't expect Sonic Solutions quality of course, but perhaps splitting
the difference in price and also in quality between Peak and Sonic is
what I want.

This is simply for archiving old vinyl, and wanting to clean it up just
a bit, but to do it right.



thanks

JT
Anonymous
August 4, 2004 2:07:47 AM

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j t <jt.REMOVETHIS@tydirium.net> wrote:
>
>So my question is if anyone out there can recoomend a Mac OSX based
>click-repair tool that is more reliable than Peak, but not as costly as
>Sonic, one that ha a manual mode and a USEABLE automatic mode.

Is Waves Restoration Bundle available for OSX? The decrackler on it is
surprisingly good for the price.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
Anonymous
August 4, 2004 2:07:47 AM

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Waves Plugins make an excellent Restoration" bundle of de-click,
de-noise, de-crackle and de-hiss for the Mac & PC. I've used these
tools with vinyl with great results on a PC. http://www.waves.com/

Al

On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 22:07:46 GMT, j t <jt.REMOVETHIS@tydirium.net>
wrote:

>I have been using Peak for occasional declicking of vinyl for several
>years and am getting sick of it's shortcomings.
>
>Maybe I am spoiled, but I had access to Sonic Solutions for a while in
>the late 1990s and all you had to do (seemingly) was glance at that
>thing the right way and it would produce amazing results.
>
>Losing access to Sonic (the studio who owned it closed), I resorted to
>Peak, as I already happened to have it on my HD for simple waveform
>editing tasks.
>
>My problem with the click removal functions in Peak are that if you set
>it to "repair all", it usually does more harm than good, often creating
>waveforms more mis-shapen than the originals. Tinkering with the
>settings doesn't really help much; it will still repair some clicks
>just fine, but hopelessly mangle others.
>
>Doing it manually takes FOREVER.
>
>So my question is if anyone out there can recoomend a Mac OSX based
>click-repair tool that is more reliable than Peak, but not as costly as
>Sonic, one that ha a manual mode and a USEABLE automatic mode.
>
>I don't expect Sonic Solutions quality of course, but perhaps splitting
>the difference in price and also in quality between Peak and Sonic is
>what I want.
>
>This is simply for archiving old vinyl, and wanting to clean it up just
>a bit, but to do it right.
>
>
>
>thanks
>
>JT
Anonymous
August 4, 2004 2:07:48 AM

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kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote in message news:<cep304$nfk$1@panix2.panix.com>...
> j t <jt.REMOVETHIS@tydirium.net> wrote:
> >
> >So my question is if anyone out there can recoomend a Mac OSX based
> >click-repair tool that is more reliable than Peak, but not as costly as
> >Sonic, one that ha a manual mode and a USEABLE automatic mode.
>
> Is Waves Restoration Bundle available for OSX? The decrackler on it is
> surprisingly good for the price.
> --scott

I haven't used the decrackler yet, but use the de-noise thing to
restore old cassette tapes, and it's rather satisfactory. The whole
bundle goes for $1200 list I believe, and should be working on OSX
AFAIR
Anonymous
August 4, 2004 8:32:48 AM

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If you still are running in OS9 and can find an old (aka Classic) Sonic system
cheaply enough the current Sonic Studio folks are offering the Classic options
for next to nothing. Check out www.sonicstudio.com for details.

Bruno

Bruno Strapko CAS
Strapko Recorders
Schaumburg IL
Anonymous
August 4, 2004 7:31:45 PM

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If you are willing to do this in Windows XP, I recommend trying
Algorithmix Sound Laundry (http://www.algorithmix.com/home/index.htm),
which has a rather capable de-clicker (as well as a very good FFT-based
continuous noise filter). You could buy this software AND a Windows XP
machine on which to run it for less money than some of the Mac software
that others have recommended.

I have used this product quite a bit for vinyl restoration. I don't care
for its user interface, but its basic processes are sonically capable,
particularly for the price.


In article <030820041707455878%jt.REMOVETHIS@tydirium.net>,
jt.REMOVETHIS@tydirium.net says...
>
>
>I have been using Peak for occasional declicking of vinyl for several
>years and am getting sick of it's shortcomings.
>
>Maybe I am spoiled, but I had access to Sonic Solutions for a while in
>the late 1990s and all you had to do (seemingly) was glance at that
>thing the right way and it would produce amazing results.
>
>Losing access to Sonic (the studio who owned it closed), I resorted to
>Peak, as I already happened to have it on my HD for simple waveform
>editing tasks.
>
>My problem with the click removal functions in Peak are that if you set
>it to "repair all", it usually does more harm than good, often creating
>waveforms more mis-shapen than the originals. Tinkering with the
>settings doesn't really help much; it will still repair some clicks
>just fine, but hopelessly mangle others.
>
>Doing it manually takes FOREVER.
>
>So my question is if anyone out there can recoomend a Mac OSX based
>click-repair tool that is more reliable than Peak, but not as costly as
>Sonic, one that ha a manual mode and a USEABLE automatic mode.
>
>I don't expect Sonic Solutions quality of course, but perhaps splitting
>the difference in price and also in quality between Peak and Sonic is
>what I want.
>
>This is simply for archiving old vinyl, and wanting to clean it up just
>a bit, but to do it right.
>
>
>
>thanks
>
>JT
Anonymous
August 5, 2004 12:49:48 PM

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On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 15:31:45 -0800, Robert Orban
<donotreply@spamblock.com> wrote:

>If you are willing to do this in Windows XP, I recommend trying
>Algorithmix Sound Laundry (http://www.algorithmix.com/home/index.htm),
>which has a rather capable de-clicker (as well as a very good FFT-based
>continuous noise filter). You could buy this software AND a Windows XP
>machine on which to run it for less money than some of the Mac software
>that others have recommended.
>
>I have used this product quite a bit for vinyl restoration. I don't care
>for its user interface, but its basic processes are sonically capable,
>particularly for the price.
>
-- I'm using Sound Foundry's, now Sony Media, own "Click and Crackle
Removal" plug-in which is a part of their "Noise Reduction " plug-in
set sold separately. It's better than the "Vinyl Restoration" being a
part of Sound Forge 7a. I would like to see Algorithmix' decrackling
etc. plugin (made at the time being for Samplitude only) but the price
is fairy high; this is reportedly the best of Algorithmix. Waves uses
their algorithms.The Declicker itself could be better but as Scott
said, the decrackler is very good.

I apply the Click and Crackle removal plug-in once and then reverse
the track, apllying the same set plug-in in the second pass. The most
prominent clicks and crackles I do manually by interpolation,
replacing, channel replacing or a combination of.

Edi Zubovic, Crikvenica, Croatia
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