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Anonymous
August 5, 2004 10:47:29 PM

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Hi,

any SONY portable DAT owners out there? I'm considering to buy D8 or
D100. As I see it, there are no significant difference between specs
on these models. Aside from the price (D100 is slightly expensive),
which model would you recommend?

Any input will be great,

Thanks!

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Anonymous
August 5, 2004 10:47:30 PM

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Depends. Do you want a dat unit that sounds bad & is very unreliable, or one that sounds just
ok and is marginally reliable?

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"MIT" <mit@ycon.com> wrote in message news:0104h0tnrgq69uc0tl61l04lcvi30oecjh@4ax.com...
> Hi,
>
> any SONY portable DAT owners out there? I'm considering to buy D8 or
> D100. As I see it, there are no significant difference between specs
> on these models. Aside from the price (D100 is slightly expensive),
> which model would you recommend?
>
> Any input will be great,
>
> Thanks!
Anonymous
August 5, 2004 10:47:30 PM

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MIT <mit@ycon.com> wrote:
>
>any SONY portable DAT owners out there? I'm considering to buy D8 or
>D100. As I see it, there are no significant difference between specs
>on these models. Aside from the price (D100 is slightly expensive),
>which model would you recommend?

I don't know the D100, but the TCD-D8 has the same nightmarish issues as
the D7 and D3 did.... no balanced inputs, and that horrible half-sized
head assembly which makes even simple maintainance very difficult.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
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Anonymous
August 5, 2004 10:47:30 PM

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In article <0104h0tnrgq69uc0tl61l04lcvi30oecjh@4ax.com> mit@ycon.com writes:

> any SONY portable DAT owners out there? I'm considering to buy D8 or
> D100. As I see it, there are no significant difference between specs
> on these models. Aside from the price (D100 is slightly expensive),
> which model would you recommend?

The one that's in the best condition.

Someone was offering (no price specified) a TASCAM DA-P1 battery
powered portable DAT here just a couple of days ago. It's far superior
to the Sony Walkman-sized DAT recorders in many respects, but it's
larger and it won't fit down your pants if you have to hide it to go
into a concert.



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Anonymous
August 5, 2004 11:42:30 PM

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"Mike Rivers" <mrivers@d-and-d.com> wrote in message
news:znr1091713140k@trad...
>
..
, but it's
> larger and it won't fit down your pants if you have to hide it to go
> into a concert.

Not true, seeing some of these huge pockets pants my students and now my
owns kids slip on :>). .lol

Ed Bridge
Anonymous
August 5, 2004 11:42:31 PM

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Edward Bridge <edbridgeNOSPAM@earthlink.net> wrote:
>"Mike Rivers" <mrivers@d-and-d.com> wrote in message
>>
>.
>, but it's
>> larger and it won't fit down your pants if you have to hide it to go
>> into a concert.
>
>Not true, seeing some of these huge pockets pants my students and now my
>owns kids slip on :>). .lol

It's not really huge unless you can fit an Ampex 350 in it.
--scott

I _did_ see folks sneak an Ampex 350 into a Rolling Stones concert once,
but it was a long time ago....
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Anonymous
August 6, 2004 2:16:43 AM

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"Scott Dorsey" <kludge@panix.com> wrote in message
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>> It's not really huge unless you can fit an Ampex 350 in it.
> --scott
>
> I _did_ see folks sneak an Ampex 350 into a Rolling Stones concert once,
> but it was a long time ago....

HOW???????

Ed
Anonymous
August 6, 2004 2:16:44 AM

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Edward Bridge <edbridgeNOSPAM@earthlink.net> wrote:
>"Scott Dorsey" <kludge@panix.com> wrote:
>>> It's not really huge unless you can fit an Ampex 350 in it.
>>
>> I _did_ see folks sneak an Ampex 350 into a Rolling Stones concert once,
>> but it was a long time ago....
>
>HOW???????

They just carried it right in. The security guards were checking people
for cassette decks, but they just waved the machine right on by. I guess
if you're carrying something like that, you've got to be legitimate, right?
Purloined letter effect.
--scott
--
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Anonymous
August 6, 2004 9:04:02 PM

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Scott Dorsey wrote:
> MIT <mit@ycon.com> wrote:
>>
>> any SONY portable DAT owners out there? I'm considering to buy D8 or
>> D100. As I see it, there are no significant difference between specs
>> on these models. Aside from the price (D100 is slightly expensive),
>> which model would you recommend?
>
> I don't know the D100, but the TCD-D8 has the same nightmarish issues
> as the D7 and D3 did.... no balanced inputs, and that horrible
> half-sized head assembly which makes even simple maintainance very
> difficult. --scott

Don't get a portable DAT.

MiniDisc with 1GB media is about to be released in the next month or so.
Specs include 24 bit linear PCM recording.

geoff
Anonymous
August 6, 2004 9:04:03 PM

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Geoff Wood wrote:

>
> MiniDisc with 1GB media is about to be released in the next month or so.
> Specs include 24 bit linear PCM recording.

Where did you see that, Geoff? I saw that and reported it
on alt.minidisc but everybody jumped on it to say there
isn't enough capacity for the stated 90 minutes. I couldn't
find the reference again.

FWIW, I'd be very surprised to see a front end on one of
those that deserves anything like 24 bits but I like surprises.


Bob
--

"Things should be described as simply as possible, but no
simpler."

A. Einstein
Anonymous
August 6, 2004 9:04:55 PM

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Scott Dorsey wrote:
> Edward Bridge <edbridgeNOSPAM@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> "Mike Rivers" <mrivers@d-and-d.com> wrote in message
>>>
>> .
>> , but it's
>>> larger and it won't fit down your pants if you have to hide it to go
>>> into a concert.
>>
>> Not true, seeing some of these huge pockets pants my students and
>> now my owns kids slip on :>). .lol
>
> It's not really huge unless you can fit an Ampex 350 in it.
> --scott
>
> I _did_ see folks sneak an Ampex 350 into a Rolling Stones concert
> once, but it was a long time ago....

Is that a tape deck in your pocket, or are you just pleased to see me ?!!

geoff
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August 6, 2004 9:04:56 PM

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"Geoff Wood" <geoff@paf.co.nz-nospam> wrote in message
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> Scott Dorsey wrote:
> > Edward Bridge <edbridgeNOSPAM@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> "Mike Rivers" <mrivers@d-and-d.com> wrote in message
> >>>
> >> .
> >> , but it's
> >>> larger and it won't fit down your pants if you have to hide it to go
> >>> into a concert.
> >>
> >> Not true, seeing some of these huge pockets pants my students and
> >> now my owns kids slip on :>). .lol
> >
> > It's not really huge unless you can fit an Ampex 350 in it.
> > --scott
> >
> > I _did_ see folks sneak an Ampex 350 into a Rolling Stones concert
> > once, but it was a long time ago....
>
> Is that a tape deck in your pocket, or are you just pleased to see me ?!!

call for a REEL good time . .lol .


ed
Anonymous
August 7, 2004 4:23:07 AM

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Bob Cain wrote:
> Geoff Wood wrote:
>
>>
>> MiniDisc with 1GB media is about to be released in the next month or
>> so. Specs include 24 bit linear PCM recording.
>
> Where did you see that, Geoff? I saw that and reported it
> on alt.minidisc but everybody jumped on it to say there
> isn't enough capacity for the stated 90 minutes. I couldn't
> find the reference again.
>
> FWIW, I'd be very surprised to see a front end on one of
> those that deserves anything like 24 bits but I like surprises.


Try here.
http://forums.designtechnica.com/showthread.php?t=3601

http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/...

Can't find the site that mentioned the 90 min 24-bit linear PCM, but is
possibly with on-the-fly lossless compression ....

geoff
Anonymous
August 7, 2004 3:16:43 PM

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Mike Rivers wrote:

> Portable recording has always been polarized - amateurs who just want
> to capture events and sounds, and pros ho NEED to capture them. Some
> of the pro technology has of course trickled down to the consumer
> level, but there are still things that manufacturers have to do in
> order to keep prices down, and those are the things that will haunt
> you if you expect consumer-level reliability (which, in my way of
> thinking, is higher than pro-level reliability).

But the question is "Is consumer-level MD reliabilty better that DAT
pro-level reliabilty". I suspect the answer is "Yes", and with WAV
recording incl 24/xxK/st this is likely to be the way to go.

I just had to pick up a used 'conventional MD for a transcription job, and
find the quality on that to surpass anything I ever recorded on my D7 or D8.
And better than most (all ?) mp3s I've ever heard.

geoff
Anonymous
August 7, 2004 3:16:44 PM

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Geoff Wood <geoff@paf.co.nz-nospam> wrote:
>But the question is "Is consumer-level MD reliabilty better that DAT
>pro-level reliabilty". I suspect the answer is "Yes", and with WAV
>recording incl 24/xxK/st this is likely to be the way to go.

I don't know. They're both pretty unreliable. I'd want to run a backup
with either one.

I'll say that pro-level DAT reliability is a whole hell of a lot better
than Sony DATWalkman reliability, though.

>I just had to pick up a used 'conventional MD for a transcription job, and
>find the quality on that to surpass anything I ever recorded on my D7 or D8.
>And better than most (all ?) mp3s I've ever heard.

This is damning with faint praise, though, isn't it? Honestly, the D7 and
D8 were interesting gadgets when they were new, and they were certainly a
huge improvement over the cassette Professional Walkman, but they were never
exactly trustworthy.
--scott
--
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Anonymous
August 7, 2004 3:16:44 PM

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In article <NjUQc.2121$zS6.252410@news02.tsnz.net> geoff@paf.co.nz-nospam writes:

> But the question is "Is consumer-level MD reliabilty better that DAT
> pro-level reliabilty". I suspect the answer is "Yes", and with WAV
> recording incl 24/xxK/st this is likely to be the way to go.

I would concur except for one thing, the sleazy mini jacks that seem
to be universal on consumer Minidisk recorders. That's a real
reliability killer for remote work.


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August 7, 2004 3:16:45 PM

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Mike Rivers wrote:

> In article <NjUQc.2121$zS6.252410@news02.tsnz.net> geoff@paf.co.nz-nospam writes:
>
>
>>But the question is "Is consumer-level MD reliabilty better that DAT
>>pro-level reliabilty". I suspect the answer is "Yes", and with WAV
>>recording incl 24/xxK/st this is likely to be the way to go.
>
>
> I would concur except for one thing, the sleazy mini jacks that seem
> to be universal on consumer Minidisk recorders. That's a real
> reliability killer for remote work.

What do you think would be better and still work with the
form factor?


Bob
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simpler."

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Anonymous
August 7, 2004 3:16:46 PM

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In article <cf1uaf01n8f@enews2.newsguy.com> arcane@arcanemethods.com writes:

> > I would concur except for one thing, the sleazy mini jacks

> What do you think would be better and still work with the
> form factor?

Nothing. A shirt-pocket-thin device is too small for any connector
that I'd trust. But if it was cigarette-pack thickness you could put a
mini XLR on there, or one of the Tuchel connectors that they use on
wireless mic body packs. (I worry about the tiny, flat multi-pin
connector on my VX Pocket PCMCIA card, too, every time I mate and
unmate it)

However, the people who want Minidisk devices mostly want players, and
they all want tiny. It's one more case (and I seem to find at least
one example of "I want" in this newegroup every day) of there not
being enough potential sales to make a product for a price that the
people who say they want it will pay.



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August 7, 2004 4:46:56 PM

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Mike Rivers wrote:

> I would concur except for one thing, the sleazy mini jacks that seem
> to be universal on consumer Minidisk recorders. That's a real
> reliability killer for remote work.

Ya know, the male mini isn't intrinsically a bad connector.
It's the female that seems problematic. I wonder if a
better design of the female is possible. (pun noticed)


Bob
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simpler."

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Anonymous
August 7, 2004 7:13:10 PM

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<< A shirt-pocket-thin device is too small for any connector
that I'd trust. But if it was cigarette-pack thickness you could put a
mini XLR on there, or one of the Tuchel connectors that they use on
wireless mic body packs. >>

The Lemo connector is a good, reliable, small, locking device. PITA to solder
on, though.


Scott Fraser
Anonymous
August 7, 2004 10:53:13 PM

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In article <20040807111310.03983.00000952@mb-m17.aol.com> scotfraser@aol.com writes:

>> or one of the Tuchel connectors that they use on
>> wireless mic body packs. >>
>
> The Lemo connector is a good, reliable, small, locking device. PITA to solder
> on, though.

That's probably what I meant.

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Hi, just wanted to jump in to clarify that the new HiMD is only a
16/44.1 device (tops).

The confusion stems from the ability to store "data" (of any sort) on
them. The unit will not play anything stored as data. A 24/96 audio
file could be downloaded as data, but not played.

And don't get to excited about HiMD being able to record at 16/44.1
linear PCM. With the digital rights management, you can only make
copies in ATRAC. Nothing like a replacement for DAT. Perhaps some
pro gear will come of this ?

I'm a MiniDisc enthusiast for many years. I'll be the first to admit
that it is a very niche product.

I'm in line for one of the very first Sound Devices 744t. A 4channel
24/96 portable hard drive recorder. I'll probably use a Rio Karma for
portable playback, it features FLAC (compressed lossless 24/96 codec).

├čruce
Anonymous
August 8, 2004 9:34:26 AM

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<< > The Lemo connector is a good, reliable, small, locking device. PITA to
solder
> on, though.

<<That's probably what I meant.
>>

And there's also the 3 pin connector that Shure uses on their RF units, which
is the same as the connector on a PCC160. What's it called, a GC or QC
connector? REALLY a PITA to solder on those, & the plastic shell is prone to
break when stepped on.


Scott Fraser
Anonymous
August 8, 2004 9:47:24 AM

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Re: Sony DAT TCD-D8 or D100, which should I get?

Group: rec.audio.pro Date: Sun, Aug 8, 2004, 5:34am (EDT+4) From:
scotfraser@aol.com (ScotFraser)
<< > The Lemo connector is a good, reliable, small, locking device. PITA
to solder
on, though.
<<That's probably what I meant.

And there's also the 3 pin connector that Shure uses on their RF units,
which is the same as the connector on a PCC160. What's it called, a GC
or QC connector?<<<<<<<<<<

Are you refering to a Switchcraft TA series connector? Comes in 3, 4 &
5 pin configureations.


REALLY a PITA to solder on those,<<<<<<<<

not as bad as a Lemo

& the plastic shell is prone to break when stepped on.<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

The only pastic part on a TA connector is the screw on collar.

Eric
Anonymous
August 8, 2004 10:44:57 AM

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On or about 5 Aug 2004 09:25:29 -0400, Scott Dorsey allegedly wrote:

> MIT <mit@ycon.com> wrote:
> >
> >any SONY portable DAT owners out there? I'm considering to buy D8 or
> >D100. As I see it, there are no significant difference between specs
> >on these models. Aside from the price (D100 is slightly expensive),
> >which model would you recommend?
>
> I don't know the D100, but the TCD-D8 has the same nightmarish issues as
> the D7 and D3 did.... no balanced inputs, and that horrible half-sized
> head assembly which makes even simple maintainance very difficult.
> --scott

Yep all of them. Then the D100 adds an addtional list of ergonomic
problems...

Like, putting the record level pot on the side of the machine facing away
from you as you squint at the tiny display, and place it right next to the
dangerously unreliable miniplug mic input, so you can't miss bumping the
plug. Then they put a guard under it so you can't get more than one
finger on it at a time anyway, and reduce its rotation to only 200
degrees, so the slightest movement causes fairly large level shifts.

In short, you're not at all supposed to vary levels while recording, and
with only about 6 segment on the meters, you can't really see what's
happening with levels anyway.


Noel Bachelor noelbachelorAT(From:_domain)
Language Recordings Inc (Darwin Australia)
Anonymous
August 8, 2004 12:21:10 PM

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├čruce wrote:


> And don't get to excited about HiMD being able to record at 16/44.1
> linear PCM. With the digital rights management, you can only make
> copies in ATRAC. Nothing like a replacement for DAT. Perhaps some
> pro gear will come of this ?

Those copies aren't ATRAC, they just have a Sony wrapper around them
that made PCM uploads playable only with Sony's SonicStage software.
This week, however, they announced a utility that will re-wrap them as
..wav files. Supposed to be available late this fall.


Bob
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Anonymous
August 8, 2004 8:19:00 PM

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<< The only pastic part on a TA connector is the screw on collar. >>

Which is what breaks when people step on PCC160s.


Scott Fraser
Anonymous
August 9, 2004 1:58:22 AM

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In article <0104h0tnrgq69uc0tl61l04lcvi30oecjh@4ax.com>, MIT
<mit@ycon.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> any SONY portable DAT owners out there? I'm considering to buy D8 or
> D100. As I see it, there are no significant difference between specs
> on these models. Aside from the price (D100 is slightly expensive),
> which model would you recommend?
>
> Any input will be great,
>
> Thanks!

I've had a a D8 since 1996 and have carried it inumerable places and
have never had any problems with it. I also have the DA converter and
seperate remote that works great for hooking it up to other digital
sources because it has both optical and coax connectors. And the backlit
lcd is a must over any minidisk recorder for low light situations.

jf

Anyone know where I can get an SBM-1?
Anonymous
August 9, 2004 1:39:16 PM

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In article <jackfish-A1DCA4.21582208082004@news.mts.net> jackfish@north.org writes:

> I've had a a D8 since 1996 and have carried it inumerable places and
> have never had any problems with it.

I've been using Windows since Version 3.1 and I've never seen the
"Blue screen of death." I consider myself more lucky than smart or
careful. You shold, too.

> I also have the DA converter and
> seperate remote that works great for hooking it up to other digital
> sources because it has both optical and coax connectors.

This makes it less portable, though.

> And the backlit
> lcd is a must over any minidisk recorder for low light situations.

Don't MD recorders have backlit LCDs?

> Anyone know where I can get an SBM-1?

The usual "E" answer.



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August 9, 2004 5:07:59 PM

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In article <jackfish-A1DCA4.21582208082004@news.mts.net>,
jackfish <jackfish@north.org> wrote:

> In article <0104h0tnrgq69uc0tl61l04lcvi30oecjh@4ax.com>, MIT
> <mit@ycon.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > any SONY portable DAT owners out there? I'm considering to buy D8 or
> > D100. As I see it, there are no significant difference between specs
> > on these models. Aside from the price (D100 is slightly expensive),
> > which model would you recommend?
> >
> > Any input will be great,
> >
> > Thanks!
>
> I've had a a D8 since 1996 and have carried it inumerable places and
> have never had any problems with it. I also have the DA converter and
> seperate remote that works great for hooking it up to other digital
> sources because it has both optical and coax connectors. And the backlit
> lcd is a must over any minidisk recorder for low light situations.
>
> jf
>
> Anyone know where I can get an SBM-1?


Me too, no probs it has been serviced one time ...
jf does your backlight squeek ? (mine does)
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Anonymous
August 9, 2004 5:08:00 PM

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In article <oviktig-AB2D6E.13075909082004@dos.canit.se>, Joakim Wendel
<oviktig@bostreammail.net> wrote:

> In article <jackfish-A1DCA4.21582208082004@news.mts.net>,
> jackfish <jackfish@north.org> wrote:
>
> > In article <0104h0tnrgq69uc0tl61l04lcvi30oecjh@4ax.com>, MIT
> > <mit@ycon.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > any SONY portable DAT owners out there? I'm considering to buy D8 or
> > > D100. As I see it, there are no significant difference between specs
> > > on these models. Aside from the price (D100 is slightly expensive),
> > > which model would you recommend?
> > >
> > > Any input will be great,
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> >
> > I've had a a D8 since 1996 and have carried it inumerable places and
> > have never had any problems with it. I also have the DA converter and
> > seperate remote that works great for hooking it up to other digital
> > sources because it has both optical and coax connectors. And the
> > backlit
> > lcd is a must over any minidisk recorder for low light situations.
> >
> > jf
> >
> > Anyone know where I can get an SBM-1?
>
>
> Me too, no probs it has been serviced one time ...
> jf does your backlight squeek ? (mine does)


No, or at least I haven't noticed lately. I often use headphones because
I don't have any good monitors.

And although I haven't had mine done I understand you can get the
preamps upgraded as well. But if I was to buy another portable DAT I
would probably look at the PCM-M1.

http://www.oade.com/cgi-bin/miva?Merchant2/merchant.mv+...
Code=OADE&Product_Code=PSONPCMM1&Category_Code=PDR
Anonymous
August 9, 2004 11:51:06 PM

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Mike Rivers wrote:

> I've been using Windows since Version 3.1 and I've never seen the
> "Blue screen of death." I consider myself more lucky than smart or
> careful. You shold, too.

I've had the BSoD countless times but I've never been
infected with a virus. Some of that is luck and some is not
doing things that expose me.


Bob
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simpler."

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