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January 27, 2005 12:28:54 AM

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All prices in Canadian. total: $1124. Gaming. Bang for the buck.
Hoping for cool and quiet.

Mobo:
11851 GA-K8NXP-SLI GA-K8NXP-SLI nVidia nForce4-SLI S939/800
Dual-DDR400 PCX-x16-SLI 2xGLAN SATA-II-RAID IEEE1394b 7.1 Audio
$235.00 atic -need to order

CPU
Athlon64 3000+ S939 512K Athlon64 3000+ (1.8GHz) S939 512K 800FSB HS &
FAN $185.00CD atic. winchester
dual channel

RAM
12217 VS512MB400x2 1GB PC3200 Memory Kit (2x512) 1024MB (2x512MB)
PC3200 DDR400 CAS 2.5 Memory Kit $200.00 atic

Video Card
N368 6600GT 128M PCX eVGA 6600GT 128M DDR TV-o, DVi-i PCI-Express
$240.00CD atic, in stock.

Burner:
NEC 3520A Dual 16x DVD±RW, DL: 6x DVD±R NEC ND3520A Dual 16x8x16x
DVD±RW, Dual-Layer for DVD±R 6x 2M oem Beige $78.00 instock at atic
ND-3520A

HD:
Seagate 80GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive ST380817AS $88 atic in stock.

case:
SLK3700BQE BK 19" ATX 19" ATX 10bay 7slot BLACK ATX 350W PS FRONT
USB2.0 Quiet 120MM-FAN $98 in stock at atic

Questions:
1) does anything look screwed up? Too much motherboard for the rest
of it?

2)I will overclock and may add and additional video card later. Will
the 350W power supply be enough?

3)Any other suggestions for changes or anything at all?

4)How does this look for bang-for-the-buck?

5)Any good retailers in Lower Mainland of BC Canada to buy computers
at other than NCIX and ATIC?

thanks
Eric

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Anonymous
January 27, 2005 3:18:52 AM

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"Eric" wrote...

> All prices in Canadian. total: $1124. Gaming. Bang for the buck.
> Hoping for cool and quiet.
<snip>

> Questions:
> 1) does anything look screwed up? Too much motherboard for the rest
> of it?

I think it looks like a good combo.... well balanced CPU-GPU-PSU etc etc
I Gig of RAM is mandatory, 80 Gig HD is a good and cheap choice

> 2)I will overclock and may add and additional video card later. Will
> the 350W power supply be enough?

350W is plenty for Athlon64 ( make sure you get the 90u CPU )
I researched this a bit, and found out I could do with a 300W fanless PSU,
on a slightly more powerhungry system than yours ( 3500+ and 6800GT )
I have OC'ed heavily, and never had any PSU problems ( my Abit will tell
me.... beep-wise ;O)

> 3)Any other suggestions for changes or anything at all?

Spend an extra $$ on noise damping, it is IMO money well spent..
Get some good low RPM fans, some damping for the casing, it will work
miracles

> 4)How does this look for bang-for-the-buck?

I think it is a good system, but to be honest, there are many good systems
available today..... so it also depends a lot on what makes you happy.
An option would be to go second hand, but we dont like that.... now do we ;) 
Anonymous
January 27, 2005 2:16:10 PM

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Hey Eric, Looks like a good system to me !
Almost like the one I'm getting ready to buy , except
I'm just going to get a N4 ultra , with one Pci E 16 slot.
Plus I was going to get a diff. case.....
good luck......
should be plenty fast, and you should be able to OC
at least 15% higher than stock cpu 1.8 without problems..
joe

"Eric" <1@1.com> wrote in message news:5u2gv0pc3t42d3i363fpmc6eeh7q9sigri@4ax.com...
> All prices in Canadian. total: $1124. Gaming. Bang for the buck.
> Hoping for cool and quiet.
>
> Mobo:
> 11851 GA-K8NXP-SLI GA-K8NXP-SLI nVidia nForce4-SLI S939/800
> Dual-DDR400 PCX-x16-SLI 2xGLAN SATA-II-RAID IEEE1394b 7.1 Audio
> $235.00 atic -need to order
>
> CPU
> Athlon64 3000+ S939 512K Athlon64 3000+ (1.8GHz) S939 512K 800FSB HS &
> FAN $185.00CD atic. winchester
> dual channel
>
> RAM
> 12217 VS512MB400x2 1GB PC3200 Memory Kit (2x512) 1024MB (2x512MB)
> PC3200 DDR400 CAS 2.5 Memory Kit $200.00 atic
>
> Video Card
> N368 6600GT 128M PCX eVGA 6600GT 128M DDR TV-o, DVi-i PCI-Express
> $240.00CD atic, in stock.
>
> Burner:
> NEC 3520A Dual 16x DVD±RW, DL: 6x DVD±R NEC ND3520A Dual 16x8x16x
> DVD±RW, Dual-Layer for DVD±R 6x 2M oem Beige $78.00 instock at atic
> ND-3520A
>
> HD:
> Seagate 80GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive ST380817AS $88 atic in stock.
>
> case:
> SLK3700BQE BK 19" ATX 19" ATX 10bay 7slot BLACK ATX 350W PS FRONT
> USB2.0 Quiet 120MM-FAN $98 in stock at atic
>
> Questions:
> 1) does anything look screwed up? Too much motherboard for the rest
> of it?
>
> 2)I will overclock and may add and additional video card later. Will
> the 350W power supply be enough?
>
> 3)Any other suggestions for changes or anything at all?
>
> 4)How does this look for bang-for-the-buck?
>
> 5)Any good retailers in Lower Mainland of BC Canada to buy computers
> at other than NCIX and ATIC?
>
> thanks
> Eric
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Anonymous
January 27, 2005 3:03:39 PM

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On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 21:28:54 GMT, Eric <1@1.com> wrote:

>All prices in Canadian.

Based on the prices listed, it looks like it's before taxes. You should
mention something like this, because it can cause a bit of confustion.


>HD:
>Seagate 80GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive ST380817AS $88 atic in stock.

>
>3)Any other suggestions for changes or anything at all?
>

I would personally go with 160GB for a gaming computer, in either a single
Hard drive or a dual-hard drive configuration. However, if you are trying
to keep it quiet, the current selection could be okay.

>4)How does this look for bang-for-the-buck?

The prices seem extremely tight, even when compared to the lowest cost
distributor that I know of. (Either equal to, or just a few dollars less.)
The price comparison doesn't include shipping charges that may arise, which
could change things a bit.
January 28, 2005 3:40:39 AM

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ok, how about changes as follows...

mobo:
GA-K8NF-9 GA-K8NF-9 nVidia nForce4-4X S939/800 Dual-DDR400 PCX-x16
GLAN SATA-RAID IEEE1394b 7.1 Audio $145.00

1) Disregard adding a second video card.

Is the power from the case ok now do you think? Will I be able to oc?
Also, are the connectors matched right?

Should I go for this case instead?
SONATA Sonata Antec Sonata 18" ATX Tower w/ TruePower 380W Power
Supply (Black) $120.00 in stock

FYI:
1) All prices were before tax.
2) Shipping is not an issue as I will pick it up from retailer.
3) Ram listed is made by Corsair.

Also, should I switch to this hard drive? another seagate-can't really
afford the Raptor...
$107.00 Seagate 120G 8M SATA 7200 Seagate 120G 8M SATA150 7200rpm
IDE 3.5" on sale.

thanks from much for all your help
Eric
Anonymous
January 28, 2005 3:02:32 PM

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Hey Eric, I don't know where you are getting your parts
from , but found that case you picked out a bit cheaper here
http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Sc...

I think many here would use these sites for buying parts, not unless you are
buying locally......
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Home.jsp

http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv

http://www.egghead.com

good luck....
joe


"Eric" <1@1.com> wrote in message news:nh2jv0lb12dmhoeebukhemdppke0p27rc0@4ax.com...
> ok, how about changes as follows...
>
> mobo:
> GA-K8NF-9 GA-K8NF-9 nVidia nForce4-4X S939/800 Dual-DDR400 PCX-x16
> GLAN SATA-RAID IEEE1394b 7.1 Audio $145.00
>
> 1) Disregard adding a second video card.
>
> Is the power from the case ok now do you think? Will I be able to oc?
> Also, are the connectors matched right?
>
> Should I go for this case instead?
> SONATA Sonata Antec Sonata 18" ATX Tower w/ TruePower 380W Power
> Supply (Black) $120.00 in stock
>
> FYI:
> 1) All prices were before tax.
> 2) Shipping is not an issue as I will pick it up from retailer.
> 3) Ram listed is made by Corsair.
>
> Also, should I switch to this hard drive? another seagate-can't really
> afford the Raptor...
> $107.00 Seagate 120G 8M SATA 7200 Seagate 120G 8M SATA150 7200rpm
> IDE 3.5" on sale.
>
> thanks from much for all your help
> Eric
January 28, 2005 11:16:06 PM

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thanks Joe but my prices are Canadian(and so about the same for the
case) as per the op and I will be buying locally as much as possible.

I'm pretty much ready to give up. If it isn't one thing it's
another-regarding putting together a system myself.

I'm settled on the cpu and now I'm thinking of going with the
Chaintech VNF4 motherboard again for about $147CD. I think I'm
forced(pardon the pun) into this one as I've settled on getting the
nForce4 chipset.

Or do I go AGP instead of PCI-E?

This can be frustrating but thank goodness so many people here help or
I'd just have to buy a prebuilt and prob get somewhat ripped off.

Eric

On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 12:02:32 -0500, "joe~V~3838" <jms2@gbronline.com>
wrote:

>Hey Eric, I don't know where you are getting your parts
>from , but found that case you picked out a bit cheaper here
>http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Sc...
>
>I think many here would use these sites for buying parts, not unless you are
>buying locally......
>http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Home.jsp
>
>http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv
>
>http://www.egghead.com
>
>good luck....
>joe
>
>
>"Eric" <1@1.com> wrote in message news:nh2jv0lb12dmhoeebukhemdppke0p27rc0@4ax.com...
>> ok, how about changes as follows...
>>
>> mobo:
>> GA-K8NF-9 GA-K8NF-9 nVidia nForce4-4X S939/800 Dual-DDR400 PCX-x16
>> GLAN SATA-RAID IEEE1394b 7.1 Audio $145.00
>>
>> 1) Disregard adding a second video card.
>>
>> Is the power from the case ok now do you think? Will I be able to oc?
>> Also, are the connectors matched right?
>>
>> Should I go for this case instead?
>> SONATA Sonata Antec Sonata 18" ATX Tower w/ TruePower 380W Power
>> Supply (Black) $120.00 in stock
>>
>> FYI:
>> 1) All prices were before tax.
>> 2) Shipping is not an issue as I will pick it up from retailer.
>> 3) Ram listed is made by Corsair.
>>
>> Also, should I switch to this hard drive? another seagate-can't really
>> afford the Raptor...
>> $107.00 Seagate 120G 8M SATA 7200 Seagate 120G 8M SATA150 7200rpm
>> IDE 3.5" on sale.
>>
>> thanks from much for all your help
>> Eric
January 29, 2005 12:29:53 AM

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Eric wrote:
>
> Or do I go AGP instead of PCI-E?
>

I'd suggest you go with a PCIe motherboard and a good PCIe
graphics card. nVidia 6600 PCIe is a pretty good one. If you
can wait a month, you should be able to get Radeon X800XL
256 megs for about $300. It's just a slightly slower version
of X800XT (same number of pipelines, just lower clock) and
is on par with 6800GT.

If it's $100 outside your budget, you can cut down RAM
to 512 or 768 megs and then get up to 1GByte later or
you can buy a smaller hard disk or skip the sound card
for a while, relying on motherboard sound chipset. At
least you can always buy more RAM, another hard-disk or
a sound card and still get to use what you previously
had as well. A graphic card like X800XL or 6800GT should
last quite a while and would be worth skimping, within
reason, on other PC parts that can be later upgraded.

My 2¢
--
Noman
Anonymous
January 29, 2005 2:47:29 PM

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Hey Erick, don't give up ! heh.....
That Chaintech VNF4 looks good, just make sure you
upgrade the bios, they have one dated Jan 26.05
I'd go PCI Express, and agree with Norman, get at least
a pci e 6600GT, or if you have the money , a 6800..
I'd say that hd is good you picked out....
that should about do it....good luck putting it together !

joe

"Eric" <1@1.com> wrote in message news:D q6lv0hrvivhtmum70j1pvlgiadilplrep@4ax.com...
> thanks Joe but my prices are Canadian(and so about the same for the
> case) as per the op and I will be buying locally as much as possible.
>
> I'm pretty much ready to give up. If it isn't one thing it's
> another-regarding putting together a system myself.
>
> I'm settled on the cpu and now I'm thinking of going with the
> Chaintech VNF4 motherboard again for about $147CD. I think I'm
> forced(pardon the pun) into this one as I've settled on getting the
> nForce4 chipset.
>
> Or do I go AGP instead of PCI-E?
>
> This can be frustrating but thank goodness so many people here help or
> I'd just have to buy a prebuilt and prob get somewhat ripped off.
>
> Eric
>
> On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 12:02:32 -0500, "joe~V~3838" <jms2@gbronline.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Hey Eric, I don't know where you are getting your parts
> >from , but found that case you picked out a bit cheaper here
> >http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Sc...
> >
> >I think many here would use these sites for buying parts, not unless you are
> >buying locally......
> >http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Home.jsp
> >
> >http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv
> >
> >http://www.egghead.com
> >
> >good luck....
> >joe
> >
> >
> >"Eric" <1@1.com> wrote in message news:nh2jv0lb12dmhoeebukhemdppke0p27rc0@4ax.com...
> >> ok, how about changes as follows...
> >>
> >> mobo:
> >> GA-K8NF-9 GA-K8NF-9 nVidia nForce4-4X S939/800 Dual-DDR400 PCX-x16
> >> GLAN SATA-RAID IEEE1394b 7.1 Audio $145.00
> >>
> >> 1) Disregard adding a second video card.
> >>
> >> Is the power from the case ok now do you think? Will I be able to oc?
> >> Also, are the connectors matched right?
> >>
> >> Should I go for this case instead?
> >> SONATA Sonata Antec Sonata 18" ATX Tower w/ TruePower 380W Power
> >> Supply (Black) $120.00 in stock
> >>
> >> FYI:
> >> 1) All prices were before tax.
> >> 2) Shipping is not an issue as I will pick it up from retailer.
> >> 3) Ram listed is made by Corsair.
> >>
> >> Also, should I switch to this hard drive? another seagate-can't really
> >> afford the Raptor...
> >> $107.00 Seagate 120G 8M SATA 7200 Seagate 120G 8M SATA150 7200rpm
> >> IDE 3.5" on sale.
> >>
> >> thanks from much for all your help
> >> Eric
>
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