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Anonymous
February 23, 2005 5:17:50 AM

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Here's the story:

http://www.avault.com/news/displaynews.asp?story=218200...


In a nutshell, they're remaking Gauntlet with a new story and all new
everything (basically just taking the name it sounds like). Will be
developed for the PS2, Xbox, and PC. Supposed to be out by the end of the
year. And Josh Sawyer, who I guess did Icewind Dale (an above average RPG
in my book), is on it, so perhaps it won't be a total loss. :) 

--

Knight37

The gene pool could use a little chlorine.
Anonymous
February 23, 2005 5:17:51 AM

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Isn't John Romero part of the Doom Team?
Anonymous
February 23, 2005 5:17:52 AM

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"Starblade Riven Darksquall" <Starblade13@Yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1109130616.300888.217850@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
> Isn't John Romero part of the Doom Team?
>

Starblade: Please add one more level to your name to be accepted into the
"Dread Names Of The Dark Society".

If you remove the name 'Starblade' that counts as two.
Anonymous
February 23, 2005 5:35:59 AM

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Knight37 <knight37m@email.com> once tried to test me with:

> Here's the story:
>
> http://www.avault.com/news/displaynews.asp?story=218200...
>
>
> In a nutshell, they're remaking Gauntlet with a new story and all new
> everything (basically just taking the name it sounds like). Will be
> developed for the PS2, Xbox, and PC. Supposed to be out by the end of
> the year. And Josh Sawyer, who I guess did Icewind Dale (an above
> average RPG in my book), is on it, so perhaps it won't be a total
> loss. :) 

There's a lot more info on this game over on Gamespot including a video
with Romero and Sawyer demoing the game. Looks like a pretty sweet action
game, I was impressed with the visuals and they talked a good talk about
the story. I especially liked the fact that you can do combo moves with
other players, so that the Warrior can start off some type of combo and
then the Elf can come in and do the completer for a massively huge effect.

--

Knight37

The gene pool could use a little chlorine.
Anonymous
February 23, 2005 5:40:56 AM

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"Knight37" <knight37m@email.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9605CE7955F95knight37m@130.133.1.4...
> Here's the story:
>
> http://www.avault.com/news/displaynews.asp?story=218200...
>
>
> In a nutshell, they're remaking Gauntlet with a new story and all new
> everything (basically just taking the name it sounds like). Will be
> developed for the PS2, Xbox, and PC. Supposed to be out by the end of the
> year. And Josh Sawyer, who I guess did Icewind Dale (an above average RPG
> in my book), is on it, so perhaps it won't be a total loss. :) 

Red Warrior needs food badly!
Anonymous
February 23, 2005 7:07:37 AM

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Starblade Riven Darksquall wrote:
> Isn't John Romero part of the Doom Team?
>

Must have been under a rock for a few years.

Romero and Carmack had a falling out several year ago, and Romero left
to create his own "empire" with Dakitana. We all know how that turned out...
Anonymous
February 23, 2005 7:07:38 AM

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>Romero and Carmack had a falling out several year ago, and Romero left
>to create his own "empire" with Dakitana. We all know how that turned out...

One could have told how well it was going to turn out simply by visiting
the penthouse, ... err, ... "office".

C//
February 23, 2005 7:34:53 AM

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On 2005-02-23, GFree <nickt4001@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> Starblade Riven Darksquall wrote:
>> Isn't John Romero part of the Doom Team?
>>
>
> Must have been under a rock for a few years.
>
> Romero and Carmack had a falling out several year ago, and Romero left
> to create his own "empire" with Dakitana. We all know how that turned out...

Last I heard he was making cellphone games.
Anonymous
February 23, 2005 7:36:42 AM

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Einstine wrote:
> "Knight37" <knight37m@email.com> wrote in message news:Xns9605CE7955F95knight37m@130.133.1.4...
>
>>Here's the story:
>>
>>http://www.avault.com/news/displaynews.asp?story=218200...
>>
>>
>>In a nutshell, they're remaking Gauntlet with a new story and all new
>>everything (basically just taking the name it sounds like). Will be
>>developed for the PS2, Xbox, and PC. Supposed to be out by the end of the
>>year. And Josh Sawyer, who I guess did Icewind Dale (an above average RPG
>>in my book), is on it, so perhaps it won't be a total loss. :) 
>
>
> Man, GOOD CATCH!!! I am always interested in anything ROMERO is doing!!
>

Great sarcasm!!! Had me in stitches.
Anonymous
February 23, 2005 7:43:55 AM

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shadows wrote:
> ["Followup-To:" header set to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg.]
> On 2005-02-23, GFree <nickt4001@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
>>Starblade Riven Darksquall wrote:
>>
>>>Isn't John Romero part of the Doom Team?
>>>
>>
>>Must have been under a rock for a few years.
>>
>>Romero and Carmack had a falling out several year ago, and Romero left
>>to create his own "empire" with Dakitana. We all know how that turned out...
>
>
> Last I heard he was making cellphone games.
>

You didn't let me finish. ;) 

NOW he's making cell phone games. I heard he might be doing some
lecturing/teaching for some college, but specifics I do not know.
Anonymous
February 23, 2005 9:18:01 AM

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Knight37 wrote:
> Here's the story:
>
> http://www.avault.com/news/displaynews.asp?story=218200...
>
>
> In a nutshell, they're remaking Gauntlet with a new story and all new
> everything (basically just taking the name it sounds like). Will be
> developed for the PS2, Xbox, and PC. Supposed to be out by the end of
> the year. And Josh Sawyer, who I guess did Icewind Dale (an above
> average RPG in my book), is on it, so perhaps it won't be a total
> loss. :) 
>
> --
>
> Knight37
>
> The gene pool could use a little chlorine.

But is Romero still a pedophile?

--
Anonymous
February 23, 2005 9:18:02 AM

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Dirty Redpool wrote:

> Knight37 wrote:
>
>>Here's the story:
>>
>>http://www.avault.com/news/displaynews.asp?story=218200...
>>
>>
>>In a nutshell, they're remaking Gauntlet with a new story and all new
>>everything (basically just taking the name it sounds like). Will be
>>developed for the PS2, Xbox, and PC. Supposed to be out by the end of
>>the year. And Josh Sawyer, who I guess did Icewind Dale (an above
>>average RPG in my book), is on it, so perhaps it won't be a total
>>loss. :) 
>>
>>--
>>
>>Knight37
>>
>>The gene pool could use a little chlorine.
>
>
> But is Romero still a pedophile?

?????????
Anonymous
February 23, 2005 10:23:43 AM

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"Knight37" <knight37m@email.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9605CE7955F95knight37m@130.133.1.4...
> Here's the story:
>
> http://www.avault.com/news/displaynews.asp?story=218200...
>
>
> In a nutshell, they're remaking Gauntlet with a new story and all new
> everything (basically just taking the name it sounds like). Will be
> developed for the PS2, Xbox, and PC. Supposed to be out by the end of the
> year. And Josh Sawyer, who I guess did Icewind Dale (an above average RPG
> in my book), is on it, so perhaps it won't be a total loss. :) 

Boy, yet another Gauntlet remake? Romero's fallen a long way.
Anonymous
February 23, 2005 12:11:41 PM

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On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 04:43:55 GMT, GFree wrote:

> shadows wrote:
>> ["Followup-To:" header set to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg.]
>> On 2005-02-23, GFree <nickt4001@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>>Starblade Riven Darksquall wrote:
>>>
>>>>Isn't John Romero part of the Doom Team?
>>>>
>>>
>>>Must have been under a rock for a few years.
>>>
>>>Romero and Carmack had a falling out several year ago, and Romero left
>>>to create his own "empire" with Dakitana. We all know how that turned out...
>>
>> Last I heard he was making cellphone games.
>>
>
> You didn't let me finish. ;) 
>
> NOW he's making cell phone games. I heard he might be doing some
> lecturing/teaching for some college, but specifics I do not know.

God help the kiddies if it's a design class. Although he might be pretty
good for an explanation of propoganda...
--
RJB
2/23/2005 9:11:01 AM

Last night I stayed up late playing poker with Tarot cards. I got a full
house and four people died
--Steven Wright
Anonymous
February 23, 2005 12:31:51 PM

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On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 20:11:03 -0700, "Einstine" <hello@goodbye.net>
wrote:

>Man, GOOD CATCH!!! I am always interested in anything ROMERO is doing!!

Sarcasm aside, Romero will always have a place in my heart because of
"Heretic" -- the most fun I ever had (besides maybe Blood 3D & Duke3D)
playing one of those old non-accelerated FPS.

-worm

"Adaptations that are too true can miss the whole damn point!"
- Brian Yuzna
Anonymous
February 23, 2005 3:00:22 PM

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"James Garvin" <jgarvin2004@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Dirty Redpool wrote:
>
> > Knight37 wrote:
> >
> >>Here's the story:
> >>
> >>http://www.avault.com/news/displaynews.asp?story=218200...
> >>
> >>
> >>In a nutshell, they're remaking Gauntlet with a new story and all new
> >>everything (basically just taking the name it sounds like). Will be
> >>developed for the PS2, Xbox, and PC. Supposed to be out by the end of
> >>the year. And Josh Sawyer, who I guess did Icewind Dale (an above
> >>average RPG in my book), is on it, so perhaps it won't be a total
> >>loss. :) 
> >>
> >>--
> >>
> >>Knight37
> >>
> >>The gene pool could use a little chlorine.
> >
> >
> > But is Romero still a pedophile?
>
> ?????????


He recently married some 18 year old from some east European shithole. He
first made contact with her online when she was 15 or 16 and then flew her
over the States and married her.

Wonder if she signed a prenup?
Anonymous
February 23, 2005 4:06:13 PM

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On Wed, 23 Feb 2005, i own a yacht wrote:

> In comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg GFree <nickt4001@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> > Starblade Riven Darksquall wrote:
> >> Isn't John Romero part of the Doom Team?
> >
> > Must have been under a rock for a few years.
> >
> > Romero and Carmack had a falling out several year ago, and Romero left
> > to create his own "empire" with Dakitana. We all know how that turned out...
>
> yeah, doom 3.

Daikatana was just too late and too buggy, but at least it tried something
new with it's autonomous NPCs. Playing alone in Doom 3 was kind of boring
and even the NPCs in HL2 are blocking the player quite regulary and seem
to be not much better in any regard, than those in Daikatana years ago.

--
Werner Spahl (spahl@cup.uni-muenchen.de) Freedom for
"The meaning of my life is to make me crazy" Vorlonships
Anonymous
February 23, 2005 5:16:18 PM

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On 23 Feb 2005, Knight37 wrote:

i bet john is totally against steam, but probably doesn't want
to antagonize valve so it does not disclose his opinion

if big names like john talked about the truth and against steam
it would be more easy to defeat valve

--
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i said "NO" to valve and steam

against steam campaign
http://nosteam.afterdarknet.at/

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please sign petition "Say NO! to Steam!" available at:
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February 23, 2005 5:39:03 PM

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"Dirty Redpool" wrote

> But is Romero still a pedophile?

I don't know.

Are you?
Anonymous
February 23, 2005 5:41:22 PM

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Werner Spahl wrote:

>even the NPCs in HL2 are blocking the player quite regulary and seem
> to be not much better in any regard, than those in Daikatana years ago.

The ones near the end are annoying and a bit thick. Alyx is worlds apart
from anything that has gone before with regard to modelling, facial
animation and so on. She also navigates well. Dog is pretty good too. Maybe
the braininess of the NPX's depends on how many there are around at a time
and the complexity of the map.
Anonymous
February 23, 2005 7:37:21 PM

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Wormwood wrote:


>
> Sarcasm aside, Romero will always have a place in my heart because of
> "Heretic" -- the most fun I ever had (besides maybe Blood 3D & Duke3D)
> playing one of those old non-accelerated FPS.
>

Heretic was great, I played through it again with that OpenGL source port
recently. It was always referred to by PC Zone as 'Doom in tights'.
Anonymous
February 23, 2005 7:55:12 PM

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On 23 Feb 2005 02:17:50 GMT, Knight37 <knight37m@email.com> wrote:

>Here's the story:
>
>http://www.avault.com/news/displaynews.asp?story=218200...
>
>
>In a nutshell, they're remaking Gauntlet with a new story and all new
>everything (basically just taking the name it sounds like). Will be
>developed for the PS2, Xbox, and PC. Supposed to be out by the end of the
>year. And Josh Sawyer, who I guess did Icewind Dale (an above average RPG
>in my book), is on it, so perhaps it won't be a total loss. :) 

Hopefully Romero doesn't take forever to do this game.

Lynley
Anonymous
February 23, 2005 8:32:24 PM

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Knight37 wrote:
> Here's the story:
>
> http://www.avault.com/news/displaynews.asp?story=218200...
>
>
> In a nutshell, they're remaking Gauntlet with a new story and all new
> everything (basically just taking the name it sounds like). Will be
> developed for the PS2, Xbox, and PC. Supposed to be out by the end of
> the year. And Josh Sawyer, who I guess did Icewind Dale (an above
> average RPG in my book), is on it, so perhaps it won't be a total
> loss. :) 


I'm more interested in his ex-girlfriend with the fake boobs. What is she
up to nowadays?
Anonymous
February 23, 2005 9:31:25 PM

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"Smart Feet" <smartfeet@yourshoes.com> wrote in message
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> Knight37 wrote:
> > Here's the story:
> >
> > http://www.avault.com/news/displaynews.asp?story=218200...
> >
> >
> > In a nutshell, they're remaking Gauntlet with a new story and all new
> > everything (basically just taking the name it sounds like). Will be
> > developed for the PS2, Xbox, and PC. Supposed to be out by the end of
> > the year. And Josh Sawyer, who I guess did Icewind Dale (an above
> > average RPG in my book), is on it, so perhaps it won't be a total
> > loss. :) 
>
>
> I'm more interested in his ex-girlfriend with the fake boobs. What is she
> up to nowadays?

Haha, there's a trainwreck right there. She actually looked half decent
until she posed for Playboy and turned into a total whore for some reason.
Anonymous
February 23, 2005 11:51:55 PM

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Thusly "Tom Meyer" <fake@email.address> Spake Unto All:

>Haha, there's a trainwreck right there. She actually looked half decent
>until she posed for Playboy and turned into a total whore for some reason.

She's a total whore and ceased to look half-decent - because she posed
for playboy?

I wonder if it's yours or my morality that's screwed up.
Anonymous
February 24, 2005 12:02:00 AM

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"Knight37" <knight37m@email.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9605CE7955F95knight37m@130.133.1.4...
> In a nutshell, they're remaking Gauntlet with a new story and all new
> everything (basically just taking the name it sounds like). Will be
> developed for the PS2, Xbox, and PC. Supposed to be out by the end of the
> year. And Josh Sawyer, who I guess did Icewind Dale (an above average RPG
> in my book), is on it, so perhaps it won't be a total loss. :) 

This is old news, actually. Romero's been working on it since the project
started and that was several months ago (to public knowledge anyway).

Since his ousting from Ion Storm, he's been busy making games for mobile
platforms -- I forget the name of the company, but I assume it either went
under (again) or he's left it to pursue this Gauntlet game. He never really
stopped working at all.

Icewind Dale was a horrible RPG because it felt just like a Gauntlet game
(hordes of nameless enemies, endless dungeon crawls, no compelling
storyline). But I suppose that's a good thing since Sawyer is now working on
an actual Gauntlet title.
Anonymous
February 24, 2005 3:38:17 AM

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GFree <nickt4001@yahoo.com.au> once tried to test me with:

> shadows wrote:
>> ["Followup-To:" header set to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg.]
>> On 2005-02-23, GFree <nickt4001@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>>Starblade Riven Darksquall wrote:
>>>
>>>>Isn't John Romero part of the Doom Team?
>>>>
>>>
>>>Must have been under a rock for a few years.
>>>
>>>Romero and Carmack had a falling out several year ago, and Romero
>>>left to create his own "empire" with Dakitana. We all know how that
>>>turned out...
>>
>>
>> Last I heard he was making cellphone games.
>>
>
> You didn't let me finish. ;) 
>
> NOW he's making cell phone games. I heard he might be doing some
> lecturing/teaching for some college, but specifics I do not know.

Actually he did Red Faction for the N-Gage. I heard it's a pretty bad ass
game, considering the limitations of the platform.

--

Knight37

The gene pool could use a little chlorine.
Anonymous
February 24, 2005 3:40:27 AM

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Werner Spahl <spahl@cup.uni-muenchen.de> once tried to test me with:

> Daikatana was just too late and too buggy, but at least it tried
> something new with it's autonomous NPCs. Playing alone in Doom 3 was
> kind of boring and even the NPCs in HL2 are blocking the player quite
> regulary and seem to be not much better in any regard, than those in
> Daikatana years ago.

Daikatana wasn't so much as a horrible game as it was a horrible tragedy of
hype. Coming out with the game about 2 years too late was tragic. But they
really drove the nail into the coffin with the "Romero will make you his
bitch" ads.

--

Knight37

The gene pool could use a little chlorine.
Anonymous
February 24, 2005 4:16:23 AM

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"Kevin C." <nomail@dot.com> once tried to test me with:

>
> "Knight37" <knight37m@email.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9605CE7955F95knight37m@130.133.1.4...
>> In a nutshell, they're remaking Gauntlet with a new story and all new
>> everything (basically just taking the name it sounds like). Will be
>> developed for the PS2, Xbox, and PC. Supposed to be out by the end of
>> the year. And Josh Sawyer, who I guess did Icewind Dale (an above
>> average RPG in my book), is on it, so perhaps it won't be a total
>> loss. :) 
>
> This is old news, actually. Romero's been working on it since the
> project started and that was several months ago (to public knowledge
> anyway).
>
> Since his ousting from Ion Storm, he's been busy making games for
> mobile platforms -- I forget the name of the company, but I assume it
> either went under (again) or he's left it to pursue this Gauntlet
> game. He never really stopped working at all.

The last time I heard anything about him he was working for THQ on a
version of Red Faction for the Nokia N-Gage. That was 2ish years ago at E3.
I think that game got pretty good reviews.

> Icewind Dale was a horrible RPG because it felt just like a Gauntlet
> game (hordes of nameless enemies, endless dungeon crawls, no
> compelling storyline). But I suppose that's a good thing since Sawyer
> is now working on an actual Gauntlet title.

I loved IWD. The sound was great, the music was superb. The story was
above-average for a hack-n-slash, and the graphics (to me) were pretty, if
maybe a tad dated looking. I loved some of the dungeons. Severed Hand was
very cool. Other parts were also.

After watching the demo video of the new Gauntlet on Gamespot I'm pretty
impressed by it. I probably will not buy it when it first comes out but it
will definitely be on my "wait and see" list.


--

Knight37

The gene pool could use a little chlorine.
February 24, 2005 4:33:00 AM

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"Knight37" <knight37m@email.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9606BDF751EBAknight37m@130.133.1.4...
> Werner Spahl <spahl@cup.uni-muenchen.de> once tried to test me with:
>
>> Daikatana was just too late and too buggy, but at least it tried
>> something new with it's autonomous NPCs. Playing alone in Doom 3 was
>> kind of boring and even the NPCs in HL2 are blocking the player quite
>> regulary and seem to be not much better in any regard, than those in
>> Daikatana years ago.
>
> Daikatana wasn't so much as a horrible game as it was a horrible tragedy
> of
> hype. Coming out with the game about 2 years too late was tragic. But they
> really drove the nail into the coffin with the "Romero will make you his
> bitch" ads.

That was a problem, along with the "excess" that was Ion Storm. There were
tons of "look at how cool our offices are" articles before we ever saw a
game.
Anonymous
February 24, 2005 5:22:11 AM

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"JWB" <jwb3333__removethissection__@excite.com> once tried to test me
with:

> "Knight37" <knight37m@email.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9606BDF751EBAknight37m@130.133.1.4...
>> Werner Spahl <spahl@cup.uni-muenchen.de> once tried to test me with:
>>
>>> Daikatana was just too late and too buggy, but at least it tried
>>> something new with it's autonomous NPCs. Playing alone in Doom 3 was
>>> kind of boring and even the NPCs in HL2 are blocking the player
>>> quite regulary and seem to be not much better in any regard, than
>>> those in Daikatana years ago.
>>
>> Daikatana wasn't so much as a horrible game as it was a horrible
>> tragedy of
>> hype. Coming out with the game about 2 years too late was tragic. But
>> they really drove the nail into the coffin with the "Romero will make
>> you his bitch" ads.
>
> That was a problem, along with the "excess" that was Ion Storm. There
> were tons of "look at how cool our offices are" articles before we
> ever saw a game.

Yeah, as if they were flaunting "we're wasting Eidos' Cash!! Wooohooo!!"

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The gene pool could use a little chlorine.
Anonymous
February 24, 2005 6:40:42 AM

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On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 09:31:51 -0500, Wormwood
<insectfearYOURPANTIES@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Sarcasm aside, Romero will always have a place in my heart because of
>"Heretic" -- the most fun I ever had (besides maybe Blood 3D & Duke3D)
>playing one of those old non-accelerated FPS.

Was't Heretic designed by Raven? Not sure Romero was involved there,
may be wrong.
Anonymous
February 24, 2005 7:34:39 AM

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ELVIS2000 <elvis2000@ElvisLives.com> once tried to test me with:

> On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 09:31:51 -0500, Wormwood
><insectfearYOURPANTIES@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>Sarcasm aside, Romero will always have a place in my heart because of
>>"Heretic" -- the most fun I ever had (besides maybe Blood 3D & Duke3D)
>>playing one of those old non-accelerated FPS.
>
> Was't Heretic designed by Raven? Not sure Romero was involved there,
> may be wrong.
>

On the Raven site they list Romero as Executive Producer for Heretic.

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Anonymous
February 24, 2005 8:17:37 AM

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Knight37 wrote:
> ELVIS2000 <elvis2000@ElvisLives.com> once tried to test me with:
>
>
>>On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 09:31:51 -0500, Wormwood
>><insectfearYOURPANTIES@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Sarcasm aside, Romero will always have a place in my heart because of
>>>"Heretic" -- the most fun I ever had (besides maybe Blood 3D & Duke3D)
>>>playing one of those old non-accelerated FPS.
>>
>>Was't Heretic designed by Raven? Not sure Romero was involved there,
>>may be wrong.
>>
>
>
> On the Raven site they list Romero as Executive Producer for Heretic.
>

Well of course he was. Raven worked with iD to make Heretic. iD had a
big part in the game, mainly because it was their engine and Raven
needed the assistane. That allowed Romero to get his name on the
credits, but it was still a mainly-Raven game. I wouldn't be surprised
if Carmark gets ExProd-status for Quake 4.
Anonymous
February 24, 2005 11:56:44 AM

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"bioderm" <shavolsky@ladavisky.com> wrote:
>
>"James Garvin" <jgarvin2004@comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:FeudnQ_guLx3uYHfRVn-1Q@comcast.com...
>> Dirty Redpool wrote:
>>
>> > Knight37 wrote:
>> >
>> >>Here's the story:
>> >>
>> >>http://www.avault.com/news/displaynews.asp?story=218200...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>In a nutshell, they're remaking Gauntlet with a new story and all new
>> >>everything (basically just taking the name it sounds like). Will be
>> >>developed for the PS2, Xbox, and PC. Supposed to be out by the end of
>> >>the year. And Josh Sawyer, who I guess did Icewind Dale (an above
>> >>average RPG in my book), is on it, so perhaps it won't be a total
>> >>loss. :) 
>> >>
>> >>--
>> >>
>> >>Knight37
>> >>
>> >>The gene pool could use a little chlorine.
>> >
>> >
>> > But is Romero still a pedophile?
>>
>> ?????????
>
>
>He recently married some 18 year old from some east European shithole. He
>first made contact with her online when she was 15 or 16 and then flew her
>over the States and married her.
>
>Wonder if she signed a prenup?

Wow he's my hero.
Anonymous
February 24, 2005 11:56:45 AM

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Mean_Chlorine <mike_noren2002@NOSPAMyahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>Thusly "Tom Meyer" <fake@email.address> Spake Unto All:
>
>>Haha, there's a trainwreck right there. She actually looked half decent
>>until she posed for Playboy and turned into a total whore for some reason.
>
>She's a total whore and ceased to look half-decent - because she posed
>for playboy?

Because she got plastic surgery.

>I wonder if it's yours or my morality that's screwed up.
Anonymous
February 24, 2005 11:56:46 AM

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Knight37 <knight37m@email.com> wrote:
>Here's the story:
>
>http://www.avault.com/news/displaynews.asp?story=218200...
>
>
>In a nutshell, they're remaking Gauntlet with a new story and all new
>everything (basically just taking the name it sounds like). Will be
>developed for the PS2, Xbox, and PC. Supposed to be out by the end of the
>year. And Josh Sawyer, who I guess did Icewind Dale (an above average RPG
>in my book), is on it, so perhaps it won't be a total loss. :) 

Haven't there already been a billion Gauntlet games since the original?
Anonymous
February 24, 2005 11:56:47 AM

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Bateau <Gamera@work.stomping.aza> once tried to test me with:

> Knight37 <knight37m@email.com> wrote:
>>Here's the story:
>>
>>http://www.avault.com/news/displaynews.asp?story=218200...
>>
>>
>>In a nutshell, they're remaking Gauntlet with a new story and all new
>>everything (basically just taking the name it sounds like). Will be
>>developed for the PS2, Xbox, and PC. Supposed to be out by the end of
>>the year. And Josh Sawyer, who I guess did Icewind Dale (an above
>>average RPG in my book), is on it, so perhaps it won't be a total
>>loss. :) 
>
> Haven't there already been a billion Gauntlet games since the
> original?

Finally dropped that rediculous ascii art eh?

Yes, you are correct, there have been Gauntlet games since the original.
Shortly after Gauntlet was released in the arcades they did a port of it
over to all the 8-bit computers that were out at the time (Apple II, Atari
ST, C64, ZX Spectrum) as well as to the then reigning consoles (NES and
SMS).

Then surprisingly in what must have been one of the first expansion packs
for a game in my memory was Gauntlet: The Deeper Dungeons for the C64 and
the ZX Spectrum.

Two years later Atari made Gauntlet II for Amiga, Atari ST, C64, DOS, NES,
ZX Spectrum, etc. I think that game also had an arcade version.

They did a Gauntlet 3 also for Amiga, ST, C64, etc.

I remember Electronic Arts, back when they were a real game house for real
gamers, made a gauntlet-style game that I cant remember the name of right
now but it let you design your own levels and stuff. They were really into
the "construction set" games at the time.

Then there was a pretty long gap until Midway created Gauntlet Legends
which was based on the coin-op I think that used the same name (definitely
had the same graphics, I remember seeing it in a comic-book/RPG shop once).
This game was 3D gauntlet, you went around with the same 4 characters
wasting everything as usual but it was all in 3D. That game came out in
1999. This game was released on Dreamcast (one of the better games for that
platform IMHO), N64, and Playstation. I have this for the DC.

Seems like there also at near this time a game called Get Medieval which
was essentially a Gauntlet you could play over the internet by Monolith
Studios. I remember it was pretty fun but it didn't sell that great. I
think you can still buy it for like a dollar or something now. :p 

Then in 2001 someone (Midway?) did a sequel to Legends called Guantlet Dark
Legacy. This one came out on Playstation 2 first, then followups for the
GameCube and Xbox were made. And they did a version for the GBA. I think
this is the one that changed up the characters some where you could play a
Fool and several other characters (at least 8 different classes I think). I
think I have this one for PS2 maybe. Or maybe not. Must not have been too
great. :) 

So yeah, this is not the first Gauntlet since the original, but it's an all
new start to the franchise. It looks pretty cool, I'm definitely keeping an
eye out on it. I loved the original Gauntlet and also liked Guantlet
Legends quite a bit.

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Knight37

The gene pool could use a little chlorine.
Anonymous
February 24, 2005 1:20:29 PM

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OnePunchMickey wrote:

> Werner Spahl wrote:
>
> > even the NPCs in HL2 are blocking the player quite regulary and seem
> > to be not much better in any regard, than those in Daikatana years ago.
>
> The ones near the end are annoying and a bit thick. Alyx is worlds apart
> from anything that has gone before with regard to modelling, facial
> animation and so on. She also navigates well. Dog is pretty good too. Maybe
> the braininess of the NPX's depends on how many there are around at a time
> and the complexity of the map.

I support that, well I actually mean the power of the machine to process the
A.I. I recall when I played MechWarrior 3, Dominic Paine (My A.I. Lancemate) is
simply a pain in the arse when he keeps smashing his Annihilator's cockpit on
the conveyor belt and got himself killed in one of the map (underground mining
facility), this happen when I played on a lower spec. machine. Later when I
upgraded to a better machine (way better), he seems getting a lot smarter and
actually being useful in battle.

Regards.
Anonymous
February 24, 2005 1:22:52 PM

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bioderm wrote:

>
> "James Garvin" <jgarvin2004@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:FeudnQ_guLx3uYHfRVn-1Q@comcast.com...
> > Dirty Redpool wrote:
> >
> > > Knight37 wrote:
> > >
> > > > Here's the story:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.avault.com/news/displaynews.asp?story=218200...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In a nutshell, they're remaking Gauntlet with a new story and all new
> > > > everything (basically just taking the name it sounds like). Will be
> > > > developed for the PS2, Xbox, and PC. Supposed to be out by the end of
> > > > the year. And Josh Sawyer, who I guess did Icewind Dale (an above
> > > > average RPG in my book), is on it, so perhaps it won't be a total
> > > > loss. :) 
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > Knight37
> > > >
> > > > The gene pool could use a little chlorine.
> > >
> > >
> > > But is Romero still a pedophile?
> >
> > ?????????
>
>
> He recently married some 18 year old from some east European shithole. He
> first made contact with her online when she was 15 or 16 and then flew her
> over the States and married her.
>
> Wonder if she signed a prenup?

Hmm... I thought in the west, one is considered adult at the age of 18?
Anonymous
February 24, 2005 1:45:50 PM

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ChoyKw wrote:
> bioderm wrote:
>
>>
>> "James Garvin" <jgarvin2004@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:FeudnQ_guLx3uYHfRVn-1Q@comcast.com...
>>> Dirty Redpool wrote:
>>>
>>>> Knight37 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Here's the story:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.avault.com/news/displaynews.asp?story=218200...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In a nutshell, they're remaking Gauntlet with a new story and all
>>>>> new everything (basically just taking the name it sounds like).
>>>>> Will be developed for the PS2, Xbox, and PC. Supposed to be out
>>>>> by the end of the year. And Josh Sawyer, who I guess did Icewind
>>>>> Dale (an above average RPG in my book), is on it, so perhaps it
>>>>> won't be a total loss. :) 
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Knight37
>>>>>
>>>>> The gene pool could use a little chlorine.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> But is Romero still a pedophile?
>>>
>>> ?????????
>>
>>
>> He recently married some 18 year old from some east European
>> shithole. He first made contact with her online when she was 15 or
>> 16 and then flew her over the States and married her.
>>
>> Wonder if she signed a prenup?
>
> Hmm... I thought in the west, one is considered adult at the age of
> 18?

Yeah, but they started their relationship years before she turned 18.

--
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> Yeah, but they started their relationship years before she
> turned 18.

In most of Europe, as well as in most of America, the age of sexual consent
is lower than age of legal majority.

Regardless, a 15-year-old is hardly considered prepubescent.
Anonymous
February 25, 2005 3:49:30 AM

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Hermann wrote:
>> Yeah, but they started their relationship years before she
>> turned 18.
>
> In most of Europe, as well as in most of America, the age of sexual
> consent is lower than age of legal majority.
>
> Regardless, a 15-year-old is hardly considered prepubescent.

Isn't 16 the age of sexual consent in most of the US. Regardless, I still
find it morally wrong for a guy as old as him to hook up with someone as
young as her. I seem to recall reading that he has 2 children who are around
the same age as her.

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Anonymous
February 25, 2005 5:06:23 AM

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"Dirty Redpool" <dirtredpooll@something.something> once tried to test me
with:

> Hermann wrote:
>>> Yeah, but they started their relationship years before she
>>> turned 18.
>>
>> In most of Europe, as well as in most of America, the age of sexual
>> consent is lower than age of legal majority.
>>
>> Regardless, a 15-year-old is hardly considered prepubescent.
>
> Isn't 16 the age of sexual consent in most of the US. Regardless, I
> still find it morally wrong for a guy as old as him to hook up with
> someone as young as her. I seem to recall reading that he has 2
> children who are around the same age as her.

Lets say she was 20 and he was 40. Something morally wrong with that?


--

Knight37

The gene pool could use a little chlorine.
Anonymous
February 25, 2005 7:57:44 AM

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In article <Xns9607CC88DB85Dknight37m@130.133.1.4>,
Knight37 <knight37m@email.com> wrote:

>Lets say she was 20 and he was 40. Something morally wrong with that?


Let's say she was 7 and he was 27, anything wrong with that ? After all, when
he was 90 she'd be 70.

Stupid question Knight.

Jim
Anonymous
February 25, 2005 7:57:45 AM

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foamy wrote:

> In article <Xns9607CC88DB85Dknight37m@130.133.1.4>,
> Knight37 <knight37m@email.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Lets say she was 20 and he was 40. Something morally wrong with that?
>
>
>
> Let's say she was 7 and he was 27, anything wrong with that ? After all, when
> he was 90 she'd be 70.
>
> Stupid question Knight.
>
> Jim


I think it is pretty apt Jim. If she was 20 and he was 40, few people
would complain...and mostly it would be off comments like "robbing the
cradle" and "couldn't he find some his own age" or "she must have some
nice tang"

The problem is that there is a moral quandary when he is 35ish and she
is 18ish..
Anonymous
February 25, 2005 8:37:45 AM

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bombelly@wahs.ac (foamy) once tried to test me with:

> In article <Xns9607CC88DB85Dknight37m@130.133.1.4>,
> Knight37 <knight37m@email.com> wrote:
>
>>Lets say she was 20 and he was 40. Something morally wrong with that?
>
>
> Let's say she was 7 and he was 27, anything wrong with that ? After
> all, when he was 90 she'd be 70.
>
> Stupid question Knight.

Not a stupid question. She was NOT 7, he was NOT 27. She was 18, remember?
If there's something "morally wrong" with an older person marrying someone
much younger what's the point at which it becomes immoral? Society says 18.
I see nothing immoral here.


--

Knight37

The gene pool could use a little chlorine.
Anonymous
February 25, 2005 9:49:27 AM

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On 25 Feb 2005 05:37:45 GMT, Knight37 <knight37m@email.com> wrote:

>bombelly@wahs.ac (foamy) once tried to test me with:
>
>> In article <Xns9607CC88DB85Dknight37m@130.133.1.4>,
>> Knight37 <knight37m@email.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Lets say she was 20 and he was 40. Something morally wrong with that?
>>
>>
>> Let's say she was 7 and he was 27, anything wrong with that ? After
>> all, when he was 90 she'd be 70.
>>
>> Stupid question Knight.
>
>Not a stupid question. She was NOT 7, he was NOT 27. She was 18, remember?
>If there's something "morally wrong" with an older person marrying someone
>much younger what's the point at which it becomes immoral? Society says 18.
>I see nothing immoral here.
I bet that if you had a 15 year old daughter that was being contacted
on the Internet by a much older man you would feel different.
Anonymous
February 25, 2005 12:13:31 PM

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On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 06:49:27 -0500, emilo@comcast.com wrote:

> On 25 Feb 2005 05:37:45 GMT, Knight37 <knight37m@email.com> wrote:
>
>>bombelly@wahs.ac (foamy) once tried to test me with:
>>
>>> In article <Xns9607CC88DB85Dknight37m@130.133.1.4>,
>>> Knight37 <knight37m@email.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Lets say she was 20 and he was 40. Something morally wrong with that?
>>>
>>> Let's say she was 7 and he was 27, anything wrong with that ? After
>>> all, when he was 90 she'd be 70.
>>>
>>> Stupid question Knight.
>>
>>Not a stupid question. She was NOT 7, he was NOT 27. She was 18, remember?
>>If there's something "morally wrong" with an older person marrying someone
>>much younger what's the point at which it becomes immoral? Society says 18.
>>I see nothing immoral here.
> I bet that if you had a 15 year old daughter that was being contacted
> on the Internet by a much older man you would feel different.

It'd depend on how much money he has left after all the office "toys"...<g>
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2/25/2005 9:12:35 AM

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Anonymous
February 25, 2005 2:40:10 PM

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Thusly "Dirty Redpool" <dirtredpooll@something.something> Spake Unto
All:

>> Regardless, a 15-year-old is hardly considered prepubescent.
>
>Isn't 16 the age of sexual consent in most of the US. Regardless, I still
>find it morally wrong for a guy as old as him to hook up with someone as
>young as her.

Bah, you're projecting. I mean, who wouldn't want a depraved
40-year-old dating his sweet innocent 15-year-old daughter?

(Then again, who wouldn't want a 15-year-old oversexed moron dating
his sweet innocent 15-year-old daughter either? It's a lose-lose
situation.)
!