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Also the Sherman was a much more effective weopon when they installed the
76mm.
"Briarroot" <woodsyl@iwon.com> wrote in message
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> aether wrote:
>>
>> I've no problem with little use of tanks in the single-player campaign.
>> (although they were part and parcel of warfare during that time, in
>> every theatre) I speak of multiplayer. In the listing of vehicles, it
>> lists a Sherman but not a Panzer. However, it lists other Axis weapons,
>> and a couple vehicles. I find it curious they would have no Panzer in
>> multiplayer, but feature a Sherman tank, which was considered among the
>> worst tanks of the entire war.
>
> Nonsense! When Shermans first took the field in North Africa in 1942,
> with British armored formations, they were superior to anything the
> Germans then had in Africa. During that period, the German Mk.IV
> mounted the short-barreled 75mm L/24 gun which was markedly inferior
> to the 75mm L/40 Sherman gun, and Shermans also had thicker armor than
> the German tanks they met during that period. It was only later, in
> 1943 and 44, when the Germans thickened the armor and up-gunned the
> Mk.IVs that they became better than the early Shermans. Clearly, the
> Panther and Tiger series were far superior in armor and firepower to
> the Sherman, however the Germans had far more Mk.IVs than they had
> Panthers and Tigers. By no stretch could the Sherman be designated
> "one of the worst tanks of the entire war." That's just ridiculous.
>
>> (http://www.brothersinarmsgame.com/us/weapons.php)
>>
>> Like I said, perhaps they don't want to show people just how miserable
>> the Sherman tanks really were. By excluding any competetion, and
>> against only infantry, the Sherman tank will look rather intimidating.
>> A rather pathetic move by Gearbox.
>
> US Army pre-war doctrine stipulated that tanks were to be *infantry*
> fighting vehicles. The function of the Armored Force (tanks) was to
> support infantry attacks, not to engage enemy armor; that was the job
> of the Tank Destroyer Force, who were issued their own specialized
> vehicles. Thus the first marks of the Sherman had a gun with a much
> better HE round than AP, and the tank destroyers were fitted with the
> higher muzzle-velocity cannon more suited for the anti-tank role.
> There were fierce advocates for both tanks and tank destroyers in the
> US Army at the time, and their arguments were not resolved until
> experience in France in 1944 amply demonstrated that tanks too, needed
> to be able to successfully engage enemy armor. However, US mass
> production methods had already delivered thousands of under-gunned,
> under-armored Shermans to the Army. A crash program was thus begun to
> add applique armor to the Sherman's most vulnerable areas, and to
> improve gun performance. By 1945, up-gunned Shermans were just as
> good as the German Mk.IVs of the period, though they were never a
> match for the Panthers or Tigers; though to be fair, those were much
> heavier tanks than the Sherman. The US Army's answer to them was the
> M-26 Pershing which unfortunately didn't arrive in Europe until very
> late in the war. All in all, while certainly not the greatest tank of
> the war, the Sherman should be classed as 'very good' at doing what it
> was designed to do.